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Obama, Clinton and Iran
Late last night, Senator Barack Obama introduced a bill that would essentially nullify the one his rival, Senator Hillary Clinton, recently supported. The latter is the Kyl-Lieberman amendment, which designates Iran's Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization, and which some believe provides President Bush with the necessary pretext to go to war with Iran. Mrs. Clinton has been hammered by her Democratic rivals for her support of Kyl-Lieberman, and Mr. Obama's new bill attempts to make clear to the White House that it does not have the authority to start a war with Iran.
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Though Obama missed the vote on the Kyl-Lieberman bill because he was busy campaigning, the vote itself wasn't close (76 for and 22 against). Despite the support for the measure, Obama remains steadfast against giving the president the opportunity to start another Middle East war. From the AP:
Obama spokesman Bill Burton said the Illinois senator drafted the measure in an effort to "nullify the vote the Senate took to give the president the benefit of the doubt on Iran."
Clinton responded by accusing Obama of playing politics. This, while the New York senator was herself attempting yet another backtrack. After approving Kyl-Lieberman, Mrs. Clinton, along with 29 other senators (Barack Obama not among them), sent a letter to the White House saying that Mr. Bush has no authorization to start a war with Iran. While she claims that the reason she signed on to Kyl-Lieberman was to apply diplomatic pressure, she seems to have forgotten which administration would actually be in charge of the negotiations (or lack thereof).
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David Knowles
A journalist, musician and novelist, David Knowles has covered politics at AOL for the past two and a half years...more
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heelomech
10:27AM Nov 2nd 2007
look at the name "obama" or bin laden i get those 2 confused.
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ERNIE
10:57PM Nov 5th 2007
obama wants to kiss iran ass. be couse he is a musliam him self. watch out for 666.that is obama.
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(0) khillona
10:39AM Nov 2nd 2007
it is silly to disect gymnastics of the political process. The real divide is where do they stand on issue--in this case it is our nations long term safety and interests in middle east-- I have no doubt that all candidates are united--and proud citizens.
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(0) Donnie J
10:50AM Nov 2nd 2007
I dont think we should have been over there in the first place, but since we have,we should kick some serious ASS,and show them sand monkeys how to play "WAR"
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(0) Mr. Clark
10:51AM Nov 2nd 2007
Obama is alive! The Kyl-Lieberman amendment is a rather benign piece of legislation, but with Bush...one can't be too careful.
Clinton can accuse Obama of playing politics, but if his measure comes up for a vote she would be smart to vote for it. It is one less thing he will have (Obama) to use against her. Up until now his opinion of her vote mattered not, as he didn't show up to vote on what he later called a very important piece of legislation...can't have it both ways. If she had voted against Kyl-Lieberman, Obama could have made just as compelling of an argument against her with that as well. But, if you don't show up to vote...there is no credibility.
Hillary is smart, so, if it does make it to the floor she had better show up and vote for it. (I have a feeling though, that the Senate won't let this get to a vote...probably citing it is redundant or they have already taken "corrective measures". Too many egos at stake.)
I like how you mention at the very end of your column "she seems to have forgotten which administration would actually be in charge of the negotiations (or lack thereof)." Because you and I both know it would be the latter.
Enjoy your day...
Sincerely and respectfully,
Mr. Clark
Clinton can accuse Obama of playing politics, but if his measure comes up for a vote she would be smart to vote for it. It is one less thing he will have (Obama) to use against her. Up until now his opinion of her vote mattered not, as he didn't show up to vote on what he later called a very important piece of legislation...can't have it both ways. If she had voted against Kyl-Lieberman, Obama could have made just as compelling of an argument against her with that as well. But, if you don't show up to vote...there is no credibility.
Hillary is smart, so, if it does make it to the floor she had better show up and vote for it. (I have a feeling though, that the Senate won't let this get to a vote...probably citing it is redundant or they have already taken "corrective measures". Too many egos at stake.)
I like how you mention at the very end of your column "she seems to have forgotten which administration would actually be in charge of the negotiations (or lack thereof)." Because you and I both know it would be the latter.
Enjoy your day...
Sincerely and respectfully,
Mr. Clark
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(0) Darlene
10:57AM Nov 2nd 2007
Ernie you sound like a total jackass...if Obama is against the Kyl-Lieberman because he is muslim...what's Hilary's excuse. On one hand she supports the bill...can we really afford another war..we can't afford the one we are currently fighting..while on the other hand she's saying that Bush has not authorization to start a war with Iran...Perhaps you should consider Mr. Bush when you start throwing 6's around
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(0) KineticSunGod
11:20AM Nov 2nd 2007
If Hillary thinks Obama and Edwards kicked her butt, Imagine what a republican would do to her. Suck it up Hillary, You failed to answer the questions and come clean to VOTERS! She was exposed as a Bush supporter, being the only Dem candidate to support his resolution against Iran. Hillary didn't learn anything from her Iraq invasion vote. Get that closet republican out of the Dem party! I'm glad Obama and Edwards exposed her, It would of been like voting Bush in office again!
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(0) KineticSunGod
11:21AM Nov 2nd 2007
How would Hillary deal with Al Qaeda and other Terrorists if they don't do things her way?..Call them sexists then blame the media for her failures? Hillary is just like Bush, they hate to take responsibility for their positions and failures. Hillary thinks she can flip flop her way to the White House. She only wants to win, NOT LEAD! Obama/Edwards 08
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(0) KineticSunGod
11:24AM Nov 2nd 2007
How would Hillary deal with Al Qaeda and other Terrorists if they don't do things her way?..Call them sexists then blame the media for her failures? Hillary is just like Bush, they hate to take responsibility for their positions and failures. Hillary thinks she can flip flop her way to the White House. She only wants to win, NOT LEAD! Obama/Edwards 08
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(0) FRAN
11:24AM Nov 2nd 2007
DO WE NEED ANOTHER 9-11. ALOT OF LIFES WERE LOSS ON THAT DAY. AND LESS NOT FORGET ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT WE HAVE LOST SO FAR WITH THIS WAR. WHEN WILL THIS STOP.I AM NOT GOING TO PUT ANY ONE WITH THE NAME OBAMA IN MY WHITE HOUSE.
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(0) Clay
11:35AM Nov 2nd 2007
Hillary is walking a very thin line. She has to win the democratic primary while looking liberal enough to win. Then she will have to win the general election and not look too liberal or allow the questions of Bill's character to taint her own. If she becomes President she can look forward to not getting much if any support from the Republicans. The attacks on Bush and Bill Clinton by the opposition will fail by comparison. In other words a Presidency of Hillary is just more of the same.
I have read numerous articles on Hillary regarding the debate this week. Most seemed positive and a few actually painted Hillary as a victim while Edwards and Obama were being bullies, amazing. It looks like the media has picked Hillary.
Democrats you guys can do better. As a Republican I watched the debates this week and honestly thought I could vote for Dodd, Biden or Richardson. Edwards is dangerous, Obama is too experienced, and Dennis K believes in martians. Hillary will lose the general election. The same will be true for Obama and Edwards. I know you guys don't want to vote for a conservative looking white haired old white guy but you idiots need to nominate a candidate that can win. Rudy is not the most conservative guy running but Republicans are ready to support him if for no other reason than he can beat Hillary.
Good luck with Hillary.
I have read numerous articles on Hillary regarding the debate this week. Most seemed positive and a few actually painted Hillary as a victim while Edwards and Obama were being bullies, amazing. It looks like the media has picked Hillary.
Democrats you guys can do better. As a Republican I watched the debates this week and honestly thought I could vote for Dodd, Biden or Richardson. Edwards is dangerous, Obama is too experienced, and Dennis K believes in martians. Hillary will lose the general election. The same will be true for Obama and Edwards. I know you guys don't want to vote for a conservative looking white haired old white guy but you idiots need to nominate a candidate that can win. Rudy is not the most conservative guy running but Republicans are ready to support him if for no other reason than he can beat Hillary.
Good luck with Hillary.
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(0) LIZR
12:33PM Nov 5th 2007
Stop the religion and race calling. Obama is intelligent, young and will make a good President. He does not owe anyone in politics.
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