Huckabee Surging in Michigan Too

I just do not get it???? How can voters be attracted to the same kind of “I’m Christian so I’m okay” and good ole boy talk that we have had the last 16 years. Not all of us who call ourselves Christian behave congruent to the title we give ourselves. Huckabee is a wolf in sheep clothing. He spews religious entitlement but his actions defile his words and are far from Christian. He will give Christians of every faith a bad name. He belittles people who do not share his faith but then panders to them for votes. Look at his actions and stop listening to the smoothness he has learned from sermon.
1. He was instrumental in a convicted rapist release from prison. Result- rapist killed a woman. He now blames this on the parole board but on the day of Waynes release he stated that he concurred with the parole board and would have released him the next day if they had failed to.

2. He says he did not raise taxes. Flat out LIE. He did raise some taxes and lower others. In the end his budget was balanced but only by burdening the middle class.

3. The AK ethics board sued him repeatedly. Two AK AP reporters sued him. He settled a law suit with an employee for 15K. He used Republican party money for private items such as clothes, furniture, and dog houses. He took gifts from companies such as Coca Cola without reporting them. Wiki had information changed on Gov Huckabee. When they traced the computer that deleted and changed the information it was traced back to the Gov. office but the computers had been destroyed by Huckabee.

4. He completely lacks the tact and knowledge for foreign affairs. IE: A reporter asked him about the Iran nuclear weapons program and he responded that he had been campaigning so hard in Iowa, he hadn't had time to read the newspaper or be briefed and he said that probably would happen again. Well, I ask what if he is too busy in the White House to be apprised of foreign affairs what will become of us??? When Don Imus asked him about his lack of knowledge he said "I may not be the expert as some people on foreign policy, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night," Jokes will not cover his lack of ability and knowledge to foreign countries. Other countries will think we are all idiots and if we elect Huckabee, they are right.

I implore you to investigate this man for yourself. Stop believing his words and look at his actions.

Huckabee seems like a winner from here. Get ready for a very interesting election.

Oh, Ashley!

I did investigate him myself. Really, I did. So guess what? I like him. And I'm not even a Christian or republican! (am I actually writing this???)

Now let me ask you a serious question... exactly who do you think is going to win more credibility, someone who is warm, sincere, and positive (as in Huckabee) or someone who is shrill, prone to misrepresention, and appears fanatically negative (sound familiar?)???

A tip for you... if you want to defeat Huckabee, you're going to have to do it on issues from the same positive and sincere perspective as he uses. A large part of the reason why he is catching on so fast is because he shuns the kind of hysterical muckraking you and so many other paranoid zealots appear to be engaging in.

Which is exactly why Huckabee could win the White House. Because even liberals like me are really getting tired of the same old whining and tiresome mudslinging that drags on ad nauseum. At a time when the Democrats have had an unprecedented opportunity to bring sanity and reason back into politics, they dive off the deep end of personal malevolence with such involuntary fervency as if they were Pavlov's dogs at a Baptist potluck.

Exactly how does one find a higher perspective when slithering in the mud, anyway?

I don't know about you but I'll take Huckabee's humor and I'll even take some of his principals being opposite to mine. At least he appears to be respectful of those with opposing opinions - something evidently quite foreign to the Democratic (and other republican) bobbleheads that litter the campaign trail. Besides, this country has become much too arrogant and takes itself FAR too seriously to be considered even remotely sane by the rest of the world.

So pardon me when I laugh at his jokes. I know this may be hard for you (and all the other self-aggrandizing cynics and pundits out there...) but he IS funny. And it is good to laugh. Finally.

For once in many years, we finally have someone who is truly an outsider who could actually get elected. After the terrible environmental, economic, and international mess left from the last few incumbents, I really don't know how we could do much worse!

But thanks for your kind and considered education, anyway!

Have a nice day!

vbg

The ONLY reason people would be stupid enough to vote for Huckabee is because he's running for Preacher, and they forget that he is not prepared to run as President.

Two different worlds, but hey, he's entertaining them, telling them he's God's choice (so what is Obama?), and playing to their bigotry.

Sure wonder who is behind the poll calling ... doesn't it seem like he has benefited since then?

vbg:

People like you scare me. Oh, I see... as long as he can make you laugh. That's what tv and comedians are for -- that's not what comes to mind when I think of the next President of America who has my future, and my fellow citizens future, in his hands. I prefer that he knows what he is doing, has a game plan, and even understands foreign policy when asked. I'd absolutely prefer that over a funny quip, or the latest joke. The President needs to be aware of current affairs, not how to deliver comedy... and I'd prefer him not be my Preacher. Huckabee is a preacher...review his ads, his statements, etc.

He's certainly impressing the religious bigots.

Hey Debrar!

Woof woof! How's the buffet?

lol

Bob:

I guess you need to tell me. What kind of dog are you?

Hey Debrar!

I don't know about the "religious bigots" but he has definitely impressed moi!

Ummm... perhaps Google is not working for you. 'Tis for me! Last I checked, there are plenty of links to Huckabee's "game plans" from taxes to immigration to even foreign policy (love the Holiday Inn Express line, though!!! vbg)

Unfortunately, links to such detailed plans for most of the other candidates do not appear so readily. Hmmm... why is that? Perhaps they are so busy attacking Huckabee that they haven't bothered to detail their own plans yet! Now, there's a game plan for ya!

Love your little dig about his being "aware of current affairs." I guess, with so little staff, he is expected to be sitting in front of cnn/fox 24/7 so he won't miss a thing! Oops! I almost forgot! Silly me! What about that pesky campaign??? I mean, trying to fight your way out of the pack with virtually no organization and expensive ads should not involve much face time with prospective voters, would it???

Nah! Not when you can be watching Headline News!!!

I mean, it's not like bush (or the media, for that matter) had any excuse since the report had been out for like a week before he even heard of it! Or like Hillary and her inability to make a decision on something as simple as giving drivers' licenses to illegal immigrants... at least she was informed! Boy howdy! Never mind that, once informed, she couldn't make up her mind for like 2 weeks!

But who really cares about being decisive when being informed up to the minute is so much more important! vbg

Oh, and sorry you missed the woof bit. Ummm... a hint: read my first post! It's in there, honest!

vbg

Bob, you sound like you're probably a nice guy, with an extra dollup of sarcasim, but we'll never agree on this topic. I do watch the news, I do read the papers, and I do surf the web -- however, I am just not in the mood to debate you tonight. The bottom line for me is that I feel Huck is not qualified to be the next President, and I am completely disgusted with the sneaky, underhanded bigotry he uses while saying he does not .. not to include the flip flopping he has done. However, you're so thrilled with him, "go for it"! I have to vote my conscience, not my hopes for another joke.

About the current affairs, or more specifically "foreign affairs" -- give me a break, he was the one asked the question, he is the one running for president. I guess we find that he is not as quick as some had thought.

I do find that your comments are full of hooplah, rather than complete honesty. Things are coming out about Huck, so you should be reading about them.

Also, I guess God is helping Obama out as well.

If you investigated him and still like him then I’m sure I am wasting my time on a pollyanna but I will indulge you anyway.

Ah….I would say the person who can actually run the country and has an intelligent, reasonable, honest, feasible, approach to the course of our country would win credibility. I give a crap about being warm and fuzzy or in Hucks case pretending to be. If you refer to Romneys’ optimism and articulate speech by your adjectives then that is you priority but do not be mad because he can answer the questions with reason instead of relying on humor to bluff his way thorough.

Essentially you are like Clinton anything that sheds negative light on character was yesterdays news- by that if it happened five min. ago it is old news and old news = mud racking. Unless it is her dragging the past up. Stating the truth is not mud racking. I am not accusing Huckabee of saying a dirty word in the third grade. We are talking about evidence that shows he is incapable of leading, tact, being forthright, ethical, and basically leading the country. It is fact ,not paranoia. History does not lie and he will have to answer for his inept and ignorant choices.

Which is exactly why Huckabee could win the White House. Because even liberals like me are really getting tired of the same old whining and tiresome mudslinging that drags on ad nauseum. At a time when the Democrats have had an unprecedented opportunity to bring sanity and reason back into politics, they dive off the deep end of personal malevolence with such involuntary fervency as if they were Pavlov's dogs at a Baptist potluck.

Face it Huckabee will never win. The truth hurts but you want to take the sting away by labeling it mudslinging. Yes, the comments are defaming to his character but it is relevant and factual.

Wow! So, you think Hucks humor is going to solve healthcare, balance the budget, foreign trade, immigration, stop wars, communicate with leaders that will probably take great offense when he makes a joke of serious negotiations, etc. “Respectful to those that have opposing opinions“….you obviously missed where he wanted to put AMERICAN citizens with AIDS in concentration camps. There is a time for humor and time for seriousness. I say anything that involves IRAN and NUCLEAR WEAPONS time for seriousness!

Great we will elect him as Romneys court jester. Then you can laugh while the rest of us worry about healthcare, illegals, and the War!

Thanks for proving the kind of uninformed and misguided person votes for this guy!

Huckabee's campaign faces a tipping point
Yet many voters do not know his views
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/12/09/huckabees_campaign_faces_a_tipping_point/

Actually, Debrar, I have been politically agnostic for decades. And I confess that I am prone to some excesses in the sarcasm department. After observing the slow, painful death spiral of honesty and integrity in politics since the Eisenhower era, I have turned somewhat jaded.

So sue me already.

Which is why Huckabee is doing it for me. He is fresh, sincere, and sticks to his guns regardless of whether his views are popular or not (or whether I agree.) I'm not sure where you get the flip-flopping bit but I am guessing you are confusing Huckabee for Romney or any of the other candidates for that matter!

And believe me, I have likely been reading more about him than you. Being retired, I have the time to do just that. So Huckabee, or anyone else, won't be able to escape my scrutiny...

As for his "sneaky, underhanded bigotry," you know what? If you are referring to his "Christian Leader" bit (remember - I am not a Christian so I could care less...), I am afraid you must be even more jaded than me (!!!). I know this might seem foreign to you but sometimes people really say what they mean and mean what they say! It takes a real cynic to read something into his claim of being a "Christian Leader." I mean it's not like he WASN'T a Christian leader. You said it yourself, he was a "preacher."

Okay, so would you have preferred he put "Former Preacher" in his ads? Or how about "Formerly Employed by a Religious Non-profit Organization"??? I mean, let's be real... he wants to appeal to Christian voters, right? So which of those labels would YOU use, silly?

It's not like he put "Mormon Cult Hater" or "Give Utah Back to the Indians!" on his hat or anything! Good grief! The paranoia you and Charles K. proclaim reminds me of my favorite saying, "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean someone is NOT out to get you!" Now, if you find that troubling, then I suggest you stop reading Stanislaw Lem's "Memoirs in a Bathtub" and get a life!

Now, with that said, I believe you are likely a pretty swell person as well. Probably too nice to be slamming people you don't know the way you have been tonight. Is it really that hard for people to simply stop the insanity and put an end to all the negative attacks on candidates already?

Good grief!

I mean, how would you feel if I went to your workplace or to people in your community and slammed you and your reputation with sweeping generalizations and misrepresentations about your character? Ouch, huh?

Why can't we grow up enough, as a society, to where we can debate the issues in a non-threatening manner and give respect to those who have opposing viewpoints? It was my impression that Huckabee was trying to do just that. And which is why, after so many years of avoiding politics, I have pulled out my old 60's tie-dye T's and started growing my hair long all over again. Peace, love, and all that.

But maybe I'm wrong and it's really just business as usual. If so, then my mistake. Welcome to the Machine.

JMHOAU

Bob-
If you investigated him and still like him then I’m sure I am wasting my time on a pollyanna but I will indulge you anyway.

Ah….I would say the person who can actually run the country and has an intelligent, reasonable, honest, feasible, approach to the course of our country would win credibility. I give a crap about being warm and fuzzy or in Hucks case pretending to be. If you refer to Romneys’ optimism and articulate speech by your adjectives then that is you priority but do not be mad because he can answer the questions with reason instead of relying on humor to bluff his way thorough.

Essentially you are like Clinton anything that sheds negative light on character was yesterdays news- by that if it happened five min. ago it is old news and old news = mud racking. Unless it is her dragging the past up. Stating the truth is not mud racking. I am not accusing Huckabee of saying a dirty word in the third grade. We are talking about evidence that shows he is incapable of leading, tact, being forthright, ethical, and basically leading the country. It is fact ,not paranoia. History does not lie and he will have to answer for his inept and ignorant choices.

Face it Huckabee will never win. The truth hurts but you want to take the sting away by labeling it mudslinging. Yes, the comments are defaming to his character but it is relevant and factual.

Wow! So, you think Hucks humor is going to solve healthcare, balance the budget, foreign trade, immigration, stop wars, communicate with leaders that will probably take great offense when he makes a joke of serious negotiations, etc. “Respectful to those that have opposing opinions“….you obviously missed where he wanted to put AMERICAN citizens with AIDS in concentration camps. There is a time for humor and time for seriousness. I say anything that involves IRAN and NUCLEAR WEAPONS time for seriousness!

Great we will elect him as Romneys court jester. Then you can laugh while the rest of us worry about healthcare, illegals, and the War!

Thanks for proving the kind of uninformed and misguided person votes for this guy!

Bob:

Well, you're all over the place tonight. Yes, Huck has flip flopped -- start reading more.

I completely disagree with you that Huck has tried to be some kind of gentleman - in fact, I think you've been "had" and you don't even know it. Politics. It worries me that you don't see this, but would rather feel that the candidate makes you happy. That's why we have comedians. Presidents should be realists, we count on them being aware of what we are really experiencing and to have plans.

I agree with you about not liking it if others talk about me ... ahhhh, duhhhh, but this is politics, and we need to sort out what the truth really is in all the mudslinging. This is nothing new.

My vote is

Huck for BAPTIST PREACHER 2008!


I don't trust Huck to be the President

Hey Ashley...

"Concentration camps???"

LOL!

No misrepresentation there, huh?

You know, when you resort to hyperbole like that, how could anyone take your views seriously?

Huckabee wanted to quarantine people with a serious illness when there was much conflicting information being bandied about in the media around then. But perhaps you are too young to remember. I'm not.

However, I am guessing you are not too young to understand what a dictionary is. And last I checked, neither Webster's or Roget's Thesaurus includes the words, "concentration camp" in their entries for "quarantine." But don't take my word for it. Look it up yourself... www.dictionary.com.

Considering how you have stereotyped me so completely wrong, it does not surprise me you have done the same towards Huckabee, as well (and prolly whoever you support, too - if they win, I hope you ain't too disappointed! vbg)

The truth is, I could care less if Huckabee is nominated or elected. I have no horse in this race and haven't since before you were likely born. The point is that I like this guy because he is different. In case - in all your tender years, you had not noticed it - one of the great cliches of the political universe is how each candidate wants to be viewed as an "outsider." You know, a "voice of the people" or some such nonsense.

But for once, you really have one. For real. Here is a guy with radical tax ideas that could transform the economy, an immigration plan that is tough but offers an open hand to legal immigrants. And on and on... But the moment someone with true "outsider," populist ideas dares to speak out, then everyone starts showing their true colors - as spineless, backbiting urchins who want nothing more than the status quo.

Well, ask and ye shall receive! vbg

Never mind that fact that the current oil-financed puppet regimes of the Clinton/Bush heredity is driving our planet into becoming the trash basket of the solar system, nor the fact that, within 10 years, our economy will not only fall behind China's but will struggle to be in the top 3. No, and never mind the fact that American respect has become a living oxymoron throughout the rest of the world.

No, because you read a few sound bites from your local newspaper, you feel qualified to presume someone like Mike Huckabee (or any other candidate) is not FAR more informed than either you or I. My guess is that if you engaged Mr. Huckabee in a debate, you would run out of your own regurgitated sound bites before he made his first joke.

I would strongly suggest you try reading up on what Huckabee DOES know before you start prosecuting him for what you don't.

Just a thought!

vbg

vbg

Hey Deb...

Clue me, here. You continue to wave this "flip flop" flag, so... I'll bite. Please educate me with specifics!

As for your continued neglect in reading what is no more than a couple of clicks away to most of Huckabee's plans, the fact you insist he has none only underscores your apparent inability to do basic research.

And if you understand the point about attacking others, are you honestly that arrogant as to think you are justified in YOUR attacks because of some rationalized gibberish about "this is politics" and "we need to sort out what the truth really is"??? Ummm, so like engaging in poorly researched personal attacks against someone is "sorting out the truth?"

LOL! How funny is that?

Do you actually read what you write before posting?

Look, Deb... you are more than welcome to support someone else. Me? I don't plan on voting for anyone. However, I gotta admit that Huckabee is the first guy to come along in a LONG while to inspire me to engage people like you in such friendly debate!

vbg

Anyone interested in what Huckabee is really like face to face should
try
this funny (but it actually happened) column:
http://goupstate.us/index.php/lanefiller/2007/11/02/title_14

Remember that the headline is about Huckabee in MICHIGAN. The voters in this state are upset about both parties! They both have made a mess of things trying to make Michigan the first state to have a primary election or caucus. The poll results may be a lot more a reaction against "mainline" candidates. A similar poll of Democrats would also probably favor less "mainline", party oriented candidates. This state is ready for a good third party.

As a longtime Republican, the jury is still out on who I'm going to support, but Huck is on the short list.

I'm Catholic, and don't have a problem because he's Baptist? Why does the thought of a good Christian man in the White House frighten so many people? Those folks probably live in San Francisco LOL.