Ron Paul appeared on "Meet the Press" over the weekend, and gave voice to a sentiment scarcely heard in American politics. He claimed that the Civil War was unnecessary, and that Lincoln "never should have gone to war" to stop slavery. A better approach would have been for the federal government to simply purchase freedom for all of the slaves in the country. Watch:
Of course, such a program sounds more than a little strange coming from a man who is so mistrustful of government that he wants to abolish the Department of Education, the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Reserve, and the IRS. But what about the contention that Lincoln went to war to put an end to slavery?Well, perhaps Mr. Paul could do with a refresher course in American history.
In Lincoln's inaugural address, delivered on March 4, 1861, Lincoln proclaimed it was his duty to maintain the Union. He also declared that he had no intention of ending slavery where it existed, or of repealing the Fugitive Slave Law -- a position that horrified African Americans and their white allies. Lincoln's statement, however, did not satisfy the Confederacy, and on April 12 they attacked Fort Sumter, a federal stronghold in Charleston, South Carolina. Federal troops returned fire. The Civil War had begun.
Blaming Lincoln for the Civil War is a popular position here in the South. Case in point: When Rudy Giuliani addressed the CPAC conference earlier this year and praised the mettle of Honest Abe, he received a decidedly mixed reaction.
While Paul is right to bemoan the deaths of 600,000 in our nation's bloodiest conflict, to say that everything would have been just dandy if the federal government would have just ponied up the dough to free 3,949,557 slaves at the start of the 1860's (as compared with the the 1833 edict which freed a fraction of that amount in British colonies) seems a tad naive. And what would Paul suggest for the slave holders who refused a government buyout? While the British compensated slave owners in the colonies to free their slaves, a high percentage of those plantations subsequently went out of business. Furthermore, one might ask that though the institution of slavery may have indeed withered and died of its own accord, would it be tolerable for Paul to let it continue for the next few generations? A single generation?
While many claim that the Civil War was not about slavery--and indeed, Lincoln himself (who never owned slaves) at first seemed content to allow it to continue in the South--the idea that the conflict was solely about "States Rights" is more than a tad disingenuous. The primary right in question, after all, was slavery itself, as epitomized by the campaign issue of whether it should be permitted in the newly settled West. Lincoln opposed allowing slavery out West. Southerners saw a dangerous precedent. Like it or not, slavery was at the heart of the Civil War.
Should all wars be avoided if possible? Absolutely, and Paul is right that the conflict in Iraq was utterly unnecessary. The Civil War, however, is not, to put it in the words of our former CIA director, such a "slam-dunk case." Historical reductionism is itself a dangerous exercise, whether it overly glamorizes Lincoln or paints him as a totalitarian villain. As others have pointed out, sometimes there's no shoving history's ungainly foot into a present-day ideological slipper.
What a skewed article you wrote, David Knowles. Don't you know that the Dept. of Education is a communist organization? I went to a masters program to be a principal and read their communist material. The early organizers of government schools, Dewey, and others, hated America and freedom and outright said so in their writings.
Lincoln's greatest mistake which cost him his life, was in making a deal with the bankers to print illegal green backs in order to have the funds to keep the war going. You see, Lincoln could not have just ordered the money to be printed because Congress was operating according to the Constitution then. But, the federal government was itching to have more power than it was granted by the PEOPLE of the United states. Hence, Lincoln's statement in his inaugaral address where in he claims he has the power to operate outside of the Constitution and use force to keep any state and its FREE people from seceeding.
So, Lincoln's first mistake was making a deal with private bankers to print the illegal money, his second was in trying to go back to regular, legal money after the war. ONce the bankers had their control and had funded the War that enslaved all of the people, lincoln's life was worthless if he was not going to remain a traitor to the people of the US.
There you have it. But, you can't have it both ways. YOu are either 100% free, or you are a slave to one degree or another. Now you are a slave to the bankers, and their IRS, their Federal PRIVATE bank, and watch what their corporations will do next. Are you ready for your chip, sir?
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jzeravica
10:12PM Jan 28th 2008
Mr. Knowles,
I think you are reading History written by a communist government printed on paper from Red China! Please read the REAL history, the one that tells the truth about centralized government and the dangers of having private bankers print money out of thin air! Please read the Constitution of the United States and the Preamble to the Constitution. I think there you will find that the PEOPLE can take this government out anytime its ready, but the government, especially the fEDERAL government is a SERVANT. Since when does the SERVANT kill the people who pay its paycheck and create it! This can only happen when you have tried to live free, but found you are a slave. Where in the Constitution does it state that the President has the power to turn the military on the American People, even if a minority of them want something that the tyranny of the majority do not... where sir.. where did Lincoln get his authority?
He didn't sir, he was a traitor and the Bankers are now YOUR master. Get on your knees sir, pay your taxes, and pay and pay and pay.. you are a slave.
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Jim
5:42PM Jan 30th 2008
ron paul is insane.
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kokoloko
8:54PM Jan 31st 2008
"Lincoln was wrong, because he was serving the plans of the Zionic Rothschilds. These jew banksters financed BOTH sides of the Civil War. Whoever won, they would win. Lincoln PLAYED in their hands. Instead, he should have resolved the conflict by diplomacy NOT war. War is the money making machine of these international gangsters. Lincoln was NOT against slavery. Ron Paul IS RIGHT. AOL has become a reduct of clueless turds, israeli trolls, and NWO gatekeepers and lickers. And of course, George Boosh is an international war criminal and genocist."
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kokoloko
9:00PM Jan 31st 2008
Forgot!! David Knowles, or David KnowsLESS?? David, who pays you, really? The CFR? AIPAC? IMF? Mossad? Rockefellers? Figures.
Perhaps watch this video and learn a bit more about why the Civil War occurred. Slavery was a tertiary issue.
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Kelly Farrar
11:30AM Dec 26th 2007
What do you mean the Iraq war was unneccesary? Are you just stupid or have you lost you mind. Do you think we would have been attack free, here in the U.S., if we hadn't stopped the insanity in Iraq? How blurry are your rose colored glasses. Clean them for Gods sake.
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JimD
11:33AM Dec 26th 2007
For Russert to say we'd still have slavery today was absurd. Ron Paul's point was simple... there is alomost always a better way to solve conflicts. Humans killing other humans is not a course of action ANY politician should choose. If history shows us anything at all, it is that war is almost never the best solution.
I believe that the point of this news post is to smear Ron Paul. You'll be seeing lots of attempts at this over the coming weeks and months. Ron Paul represents real change -- change that will hurt the wallets of many elitists now in control. They will fight dirty to keep that control. Bet this time they will lose. America has awaken and real truth is now available online. TV media can't shove lies down our throats any longer.
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Kelly Farrar
11:36AM Dec 26th 2007
I am embarrassed that Ron Paul is even listened to. What a sweet sounding idiot. This guy is from another planet. I am tired of listening to these idiots that wont even be around in a few weeks. What a waste of time listening to this idiot. I bet other Countries are laughing at us. Once again, I am embarrased that he is a candidate. Hillary Clinton is the only one worse than this guy.
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Linda
11:39AM Dec 26th 2007
The truth of the matter is that Ron Paul represents an election spoiler. He can't ever win -- but he CAN steal enough votes to put another lousy Republican in office again. He's probably being paid by the Republican party.
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jgsguapony
11:39AM Dec 26th 2007
Kelly.. Iraq did not attack us on 9/11. In fact, Iraq did not even have WMD. I suggest you discover the facts before you make your comments.
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Kelly Farrar
11:45AM Dec 26th 2007
Republicans will shock everyone in the next election. God help us from the Democrats. These people are not even qualified to run any kind of business, much less our Country. Linda, idiots like you and the other Democrats scare the hell out of me. Your trying to mess up the Greatest Country in the World. Leave it alone. You wouldnt like the change your talking about. Your too stupid to realize it. God help us from people like yourself.
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r205
11:51AM Dec 26th 2007
Kelly and Linda, how are you two ladies so blind to the fact that Ron Paul's speaking truth about the state of our economy, our government, our foreign policy and our monetary system, not to speak of the other areas he's upset about such as the stealing of our civil liberties through the Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act. Or maybe you're blinded by what ever you hear coming out of the television to not even do your own research on those topics. Please do so and open your eyes and quit spouting off what the Old Media wants you to speak about when it comes to Ron Paul. Want more of the same junk that the government has given to us for half a century or more? Keep it up, and slowly fall right into the "soft fascism" Ron Paul's speaking about, or is that too complex for you to understand and research on your own with out an NBC special to clear it up for you through television?
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Sam Shepherd
11:49AM Dec 26th 2007
With all due respect, does Mr. Paul believe, honestly, that the Civil War was fought to free slaves?
He may be a wonderful doctor, but a historian he is not. He will learn, but maybe too late, that his lack of historical understanding will end in the deaths of millions.
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tileguyy
11:59AM Dec 26th 2007
If you think Ron Paul is an idiot then you are either ignorant or immoral. Go read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and if you disagree with them documents then I can see your position on Ron Paul. However if you beleive in those documents then you will see that Ron Paul is the ONLY Hope to save this country from FASCISM... Oh let me guess, It can't happen here right. America has an invisible bubble around it protecting us from Fascism. There are 2 choices this election Ron Paul or Status Quo. You pick. All the other candidates will follow the same road, Dem or Republican. Wake up SHEEPLE.
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BARKYVONSHNOWSER
11:50AM Dec 26th 2007
I get the feeling AOL is very anti Ron Paul.
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Kelly Farrar
11:52AM Dec 26th 2007
jgsguapony - Yea, 1 plus 1 = 3 too. Iraq the Country didnt, but the freaks running the Country were supporting the training of terrorist that attacked us. You see, sometimes you have to look a little bit furthur than one step to understand things. Why you are too stupid to figure out multiple step problems, YOU may need to discover the real truth. But it isnt that simple Albert. You live in a dream world. I would be ashamed.
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Ron Paul stands for Freedom
11:59AM Dec 26th 2007
I don't know why, with so many CRITICAL issues facing America TODAY, you chose to spotlight this ONE historical issue.
Why not focus on these issues, to name a few:
* How our federal govt was created to protect the individual rights of Americans, and now instead is taking more & more rights away from us every year. RON PAUL wants to decrease the size of the federal govt, decrease it's unconstitutional power and restore the rights of EVERY American regardless of color, class, religion, ethnicity, etc.
* How America is in a financial crisis, with the US Dollar spiraling down, down, down. David Walker (Comptroller of the USA) says we have much more to fear from the impending financial doom than any terrorist overseas. RON PAUL is the ONLY candidate to seriously address the economy and has REAL solutions to help prevent the Fall of America.
* How America is completely and utterly broke, borrowing Billions of Dollars from CHINA every week just to fund our wars and our worldwide empire - forgetting how China has a sordid human rights record we condemn all the time but never take action against. RON PAUL is the ONLY candidate to address the fact that maintaining the over 700 bases we have overseas is something we DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY for! We either rein in our empire, or every American at home will suffer the financial collapse.
These are just a few examples of America in Crisis.
And yet you want to talk about the Civil War??
Get serious!
www.ronpaul2008.com
Check out all the articles he has written - consistent on the issues for over 20 years!
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Algore
11:57AM Dec 26th 2007
I guess a lot of you idiots also think it was ok for Lincoln to suspend Habeas corpus and threathen to have the Supreme Court arrested and locked up if they opposed him?