This is a live blog. Although the winner has been projected, I wanted to take time with the analysis while making the results available.
With 90.7% of precincts reporting, Hillary Clinton has won the hotly contested Nevada Democratic Caucuses. What does this mean for the race for the Democratic Presidential nomination? What's next for John Edwards? What the F___ is a caucus, anyway? More to come. Update: With 90.19% of precincts reporting, Dennis Kucinich now has .05% of the Nevada vote. No word yet on how much of that was from the Area 51 caucus site.
I looked everywhere for a pithy summary of what exactly a caucus is, and I found this one, from the Lahonton Valley News Service, of all places. I know, I know, they're known way more for their Middle East bureaus.
It's not that I didn't know what a caucus was, but I knew it in the way that I know what LaCrosse is (that's like a cross between Jai Alai, field hockey, and that Star Trek episode where Kirk has to fight Spock.). The level of detail just isn't there. For example, if candidates who earn less than 15% get switched to a second choice, how come John Edwards has 4% of the vote? And how could Edwards get only 4% after polling at 27%?
Well, Edwards gets to keep the votes at any of the 520 caucus sites where he earns more than 15%. This has the effect of screwing Obama and setting Edwards up as a kingmaker. When Barack sees that he lost by almoet the exact margin as Edwards' total, he's got to see the wisdom of dealing this down to a two-person race.
RomneyGirl, very funny comments on all 3 posts.
Back to John Edwards. Headlines of a 4% finish are not good, even if grossly misleading. As Edwards' new ad points out, the media doesn't seem to have much interest in a 3-way race, so expect to see little explanation of Edwards' finish.
As you may know, I like all 3 leading Democrats, but I think Edwards is the best on the substance, so I would like to see him do well. With 1,688 delegates to be awarded on Super Tuesday, Edwards could still win the nomination, but with the constant coverage and the importance of momentum, the time may be now for Edwards to broker himself a spot on an Obama/Edwards ticket.
In order to apply the maximum leverage, he would need to do it before Super Tuesday. That makes South Carolina very important for John Edwards. Expectations are relatively high for him in the state, so a poor showing could evaporate any influence he might have with Obama. On the other hand, a win in South Carolina would rejuvenate his campaign hopes and set the table for a dogfight on Super Tuesday, perhaps even at the Democratic National Convention.
With Edwards polling at 13% in the latest poll of South Carolinians, a win seems unlikely. Obama holds a 9 point lead in that poll, but with conditions changing so quickly, and with the New Hampshire debacle fresh in his mind, he would do well to go into Super Tuesday with an Edwards-aided landslide in South Carolina.
The other story emerging here is that women and hispanics broke heavily for Hillary Clinton, according to MSNBC. Based also on an unscientific observation of comments on my Hillary stories, there does seem to have been a swing toward Hillary from women. The AP has entrance polling here.
So, a narrow victory for Hillary in Nevada, while not a knockout by any means, does aid her campaign's momentum. Still, South Carolina is likely to put the brakes on that.
This defeat shouldn't hurt Obama too much, conversely, since it was so close, and since Nevada is not exactly known as a hotbed of political thought. The fact that it is his second consecutive loss is likely to be downplayed by a media interested in a horserace.
John Edwards' chances for the Democratic Presidential nomination took a significant hit here, as news consumers are unlikely to look beyond the 4% finish and unspin the crazy caucus math.
To me, that makes the big winner here "John Edwards for Vice-President." Although I think making a deal now is the smart thing to do, I don't expect it to happen before Super Tuesday. For Edwards' sake, I hope Obama still needs him after that.
It is a dynasty in America.The Bush family and the clinton Family won't go away. After Hillary. Jeb Bush should take a turn. 2008 is Hillary's time. She will win. Just look at Mr. Johnson the founder of BET siding with Hillary and slamming Obamah. Since Africa,Black People hated their brothers so much that they sold them as slaves to the white People. He forgot that: 50 years ago Hillary's Dad was whipping his dad!. 50 years ago Hillary's mother made his mother sit in the back of the bus! 50 years ago Hillary's uncle kicked his uncle's butt out of a restaurant!
I do not know if it's due to a lack of education or a lack of pride. Black Americans cannot understand that a vote for Obama is not a vote to elect him president
It is a vote to tell every black children that : they are part of the American dream! they too can grow up to be president some day!
Election 2008 it's bigger than Obama, bigger than you and me.It's about making history
foreign eyes
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1-4-Romney
5:55PM Jan 19th 2008
Tommy, Caucus??? That was my question in Iowa. I have never seen should a load of crap.
Breaking news....Kucinich claims his voters were abducted by a UFO. Ironically, all the aliens were wearing pants suits and had a cackling laugh.
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Mr. Clark
6:24PM Jan 19th 2008
Tommy Christopher,
Good for Hillary! Yesterday, there were two polls out showing John Edwards at 11%. Even I was shocked to see him at 4% in the end. I have strong opinions about how he has run his campaign which I will leave alone until it is addressed by one of you columnists...in the days ahead, somebody will address it.
To: 1-4-Romney,
Glad things are going better for you. The mass media has been brutal for both our candidates of choice. But, it appears the average voter can cut through all that crap and figure out what direction they want to go all by themselves. I hope tonight doesn't ruin today for you if things don't go Mitt's way.
Just my opinion, but enjoy and savor all the victories along the way and forget the rest. I understand and appreciate your passion.
To both of you,
Sincerely and respectfully,
Mr. Clark
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Wish Belkin
6:26PM Jan 19th 2008
Ron Paul for President !!
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1-4-Romney
6:53PM Jan 19th 2008
Mr. Clark,
Thanks! I wish I always had the wonderful optimism and tact that you have. I am so glad to see both our candidates rising above the medias obvious bias against them. I find it odd my first choice Romney and second choice H. Clinton are both being blasted in the media. I just hope you are right and people have the sense to continue to sift through the medias bull and get to the “substance”- (as Tommy wittily labeled.) The media is a powerful tool and thus far it has been used to brandish our candidates as foul. Either way, Clinton and Romney have had the greatest obstacles and political stigmata’s to overcome and I doubt any of the other candidates would be doing half as well with the same circumstances.
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Arleen
8:21PM Jan 19th 2008
Seems to me, Obama needs to reel in his 'spokespeople' or check his attitude before the mike comes on. He's turned me off by sounding (as a lot of men often do...) a bit condescending. So, although he's 'likable enough,' Hillary is winning.
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holly
9:07PM Jan 19th 2008
Caucas was not good went and there was no one checking id's for registerd voters and no one watching the ballot box. If the people wanted to they could of just went and taken 10 or so and just put there vote in 10 times so nevada does not have any number on what could be they should just do voting the right way and get it over with.
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themrste
11:54PM Jan 19th 2008
I am a bit confused. When I went to the site that shows total number of delegates won for each state, they are showing 12 for Hillary and 13 for Obama in Nevada. How is this possible when Hillary has 51% of the vote?
Even though I'm a registered Republican, Edwards has been my favorite candidate. I'm sorry to him doing so poorly and I think its time for him to drop out so those favoring change can decided between Obama and Clinton without a spoiler. I'll leave his bumper sticker on my truck until Feb. 5th just in case.
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Cecil Jones
2:51AM Jan 20th 2008
Great spin on the events. It's wrong, but it's great spin. What happened to Edwards? Change without hope predictably changes nothing. Hope that lacks the will to fight fails to win. Work without a change only yields the status quo. To change, we must fight as "One" then "Hope" our work begins. In short, Obama entered the race and took away all hope of change. Obama is no Martin Luther King if he foolishly thinks he can do this by himself. A Black VP is better than nothing and it smashes the glass ceiling on race. An Edwards/Obama ticket could work. The race would become a referendum on the Clintons vs. Change. What Democrats offer now is "Neapolitan Ice Cream." Chocolate and Strawberry will dominate the Vanilla; but with no Vanilla there's no unity or strength. How's that for free analysis?
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alexkerry7
3:24AM Jan 20th 2008
The Nevada Demoocratic Democratic caucus was a big joke. Hundreds of people wishing to vote for Edwards were prevented from doing so, with the method used in Nevada. The Edwards campaign was deliberately sabotaged when his supporers were prevented from voting. The whole caucus was a big joke, and certainly not representative of the will of the people. It was a real set-up!!!!!
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donna
11:44AM Jan 21st 2008
I believe that Edwards is the better candidate. As always, this is a race held through and by the media. They are deciding who gets coverage and what gets covered and they have decided to focus on the "history making" candidates, female and black, and ignore Edwards. The race is trite,it is political and completely about media and money.
Sad. Americans are demonstrating again, unfortunately, that we tend to function as sheep in fear rather than intelegent sovereign beings.
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ashley jo
10:16AM Jan 20th 2008
themrste- Long & short of it- rural areas of Nevada get more delegates & Obama did better than Hill in rural areas. However, Nevada has county conventions then state conventions then national convention. In all that mess the delegates are not bound to vote by the way the delegates are split currently. The delegates could split themselves by popular vote or the way it is now or basically however they see fit.
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collette
10:40AM Jan 20th 2008
I am really relived to see actual positive thoughts on this forum rather than the usual obscence sewage that passes for political debate. Thanx for thinking.
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ann
12:49PM Jan 20th 2008
Senator Clinton had three republicans receive more votes that she did. I guess you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time.
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James
2:57PM Jan 20th 2008
Why are the best candidates being rejected? Media? (Clinton & Obama better story). Money? (you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours). Does anyone feel the front runners are losers? Or, should I say we are the ultimate losers. We need a new direction, a Democratic President. Most of the Country feels that way, and the only way it wouldn't happen is if that party shoots itself in the foot and backs an unworthy candidate. It looks like that's what is about to happen. Al Gore would have been the right person. No contest needed! It looks like Bill got greedy and wanted to recapture the spotlight.