Interviewed on "60 MInutes," Hillary Clinton gave the nation a glimpse of her win-at-all-costs mentality. Confronted over whether or not she believed Barack Obama was actually a Muslim, she couldn't give a simple, firm answer and let it stand at that.
Croft: You don't believe that Senator Obama is a Muslim?
Clinton: Of course not. I mean that's, you know, there is no basis for that. You know I take him on the basis of what he said. There isn't any reason to doubt that.
Croft sensed a bit of hedging in the answer, and reshaped the question.
Croft: You said you take Senator Obama at his word that he's not a Muslim, you don't believe that he's a Muslim... or implying...
Clinton: No, no. Why would I? No, there's nothing to base that on... as far as I know.
I realize that this is something of a political Rorschach test. If you're a Clinton fan, you hear a stern denial. If you're everybody else, you hear her planting a seed of doubt. Watch the exchange for yourself.
To my mind there are two places she has deliberately left the door open a crack.
Get the new PD toolbar!First, as Croft noted, there's a difference between believing something to be true or false, and believing something based on what another person says is true. Consider the different implications in the following sentences:
"I believe it is raining outside."
and
"On the basis of what Jack said, I believe it is raining outside."
The distinction is simple. In the second sentence, if it's not actually raining, blame Jack for the fact that I gave you the wrong information. And that's precisely why Croft followed up. Hillary started off much better the second time around, but quickly took a detour back into the territory of doubt.
"No, there's nothing to base that on... as far as I know."
Once again, it's as if she's suggesting there may still be some information out there that might overturn her thoughts on the matter. Perhaps after we "peel the bark off" Senator Obama, we'll discover some other truth.
Hillary supporters will think me part of the VRWC, but it troubles me that she couldn't just come out and say: No, he's not a Muslim. He's a Christian.
I’m proud to live in a nation where people are willing to vote for a man whose father was a Black Moslem and Mother a White Christen.
Are we heading toward becoming a nation where the color of a persons skin no longer matters?
Are we heading toward becoming a nation where we respect a person no matter where he or she chooses to worship?
Are we heading toward becoming a nation of hope?
Oh! GOD please say it is so!
What a lesson for the world if the US elected a man whose name is Barack Hussien Obama.
I myself am a John Sidney McCain supporter but I keep listening to Barack and his message of hope and it is making me wonder what I would do if I have to stand in a voting booth and choose between the elder statesmen and a young man willing to work for peace?
If it’s Clinton / McCain! No problem! My vote would be John Sidney McCain.
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
Arizona Voter
10:36PM Mar 2nd 2008
I’m a 60-year-old Catholic Republican Woman.
My Best friend Nehla is a 58-year-old Democratic Muslim woman.
The only difference between us is Nehla preys five times a day and covers her hair.
I try to remember to pray once a day.
Who does GOD love more?
She supports Hillary.
I support Barack Hussein Obama.
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
MD
10:37PM Mar 2nd 2008
Obama lies in his ad with Steve Schuler who says he lost his job at Delphi because of NAFTA! That's a blaton, out right lie! Delphi has been sending jobs to Mexico way before NAFTA was even written. Further more Delphi started exporting jobs out of the U.S. since Ronald Reagon Days and Delphi has always ssid they would because of the high wages they were and are paying in America. Go back and read the Newspaper archives and you'll see it in balck and white. You should vote for Hillary because if Obama is lying in this ad, how many other lies is he telling us! Many, my fellow Americans!
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
brown.ja2008
10:38PM Mar 2nd 2008
Let’s face it, according to the media, Hillary Rodham Clinton can’t do anything right and Barack Hussein Obama can’t do anything wrong. Poor Obama! I seem to recall Obama recently saying "its all about the delegates". Now he is spouting that the popular vote is what the superdelegates need to vote on. Hmmm which is it? Obama's biggest advantage against ANYONE is the MEDIA is on his side! Obama needs less of "yes we can" and a lot of 'how he can'. We need experience in the Oval Office and Obama does not have it. Vote Hillary! She is a candidate of action…he is a candidate of words. We need experience in these hard times.
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
sainttheos
10:41PM Mar 2nd 2008
are you kidding me! You, the media really have it in for Hillary Clinton, what she said left no doubt what she thought.
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
Susan in TX
10:42PM Mar 2nd 2008
Hillary’s asks us to trust her! But can we really trust her? She promised to release her tax returns and white house records in the last debate. Where are they? Has the press misplaced them? All the other candidates have release their tax returns. Where are the Clinton’s ???????
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
rich l
10:46PM Mar 2nd 2008
please david knowles. listen to the interview again. Hilary said she believes obama and for some reason this is a "new low" for Hilary because she takes him at his word? another example of media or blog-media trying to bash h. clinton. try to maintain the slightest sliver of objectivity.
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
jack
10:44PM Mar 2nd 2008
David Knowles is a tool & clearly an Obama supporter. Just shut up and let the country decide without your bias opinions. Obama doesn't have to be muslim to be unpopular. He's attached to a church that is racist against jews & whites and is for Africa first. He's friends with a terrorist who declared war on America & bombed the pentagon. He delivers speeches & not a lot more. His supporters are fools who are completely unaware & need to join a cult- not vote for president. VOTE HILLARY!
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
Susan
11:13PM Mar 2nd 2008
How ridiculous! Once again, it's the press who won't leave it alone. Gotta stir the pot to get a story and Croft is grasping at straws here. She answered directly and credibly that she did not think Obama was a Muslim. But Croft wasn't satisfied with her first answer, so he kept asking her, hoping she'd change her mind, I guess. The media is spinning her comment to sound very differently from how it came across on the tube.
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
CALIFORNIA LOVE IS BACK
11:00PM Mar 2nd 2008
DAVID, you are always so negative against HRC... are you secretly in love with OBAMA.. did you drink the KOOLAID...
Please stop with your one sided reporting..
if you believe in RAIMBOWS, HEARTS AND UNICORNS, please vote for OBAMA..LMAO...
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
melodgrl
12:49AM Mar 3rd 2008
Wow, that was a stretch. Perhaps David has had too much kool-aid?
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
Serendipity
10:55PM Mar 2nd 2008
Oh how the media moguls & sub-ordinates love to create a band wagon with their "MY take on things" arrogant pseudo-expert pronouncements. No matter what HRC says, it's twisted and "spun" around to appear or sound negative - BHO can do no "wrong." 99% of the Media are giving the remaining 1% (with integrity) a BAD NAME! KEEP THE FAITH, HILLARY!
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
Jane in Texas
10:55PM Mar 2nd 2008
THE ONLY THING THAT SCARES ME IS FOUR YEARS OF CLINTON SCANDALS!
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
Rachel
10:56PM Mar 2nd 2008
First of all Obama is not muslim. He is a christian and he belongs to a church. Hilary voted for the war while Obama wanted it over from the beginning. Now she says that she wants to stop this war. Now she is persicuting Obama for no reason. Stop listening to her lies. She gave the wrong answer and so did Bush and McCain. America is not just about health care and jobs. Her husband did audultry when he was president. Vote for Obama! It is time for a change! A change of hope and peace! Obama 2008
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
Susan
11:08PM Mar 2nd 2008
To Susan in TX: They asked Obama to release his records from the Illinois State Senate and he hasn't. He says can't -- because he never kept any records! He said it would have taken up too much room! Read the story:
Oh, God!!! What the hell?!?!?! She said, "No, of course not." She answered the question very clearly and left no doubt. I am so sick of people taking everything Hillary says and skewing it. OK, so you hate her. Fine. But people who report the news should be objective. I don't get it. I truly don't get it.
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
bonnie
11:06PM Mar 2nd 2008
The new low is the media and your rediculous bias!
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
doeadeer3
11:11PM Mar 2nd 2008
Well, you know, he has had Muslim connections. It's hard to know what is what with Obama. Though it appears he has appeared a Christian church for 20 years. But there are so many unanswered questions about his schooling as a boy and his trip to Africa as an adult and other things. So most of us would hedge answering. There are too many questions about Obama all around. Too many things unanswered. I'd like to know if he believes the things the minister of his church as said -- his spiritual advisor for twenty years. I really wonder if he does?
Not that being Muslim or not really matters.
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
Susan
11:13PM Mar 2nd 2008
To Susan in TX -- Here's a quote from the link I posted:
(AP) Barack Obama, who's been scolding Hillary Rodham Clinton for not hastening the release of records from her time as first lady, says he can't step up and produce his own records from his days in the Illinois state Senate.
He says he hasn't got any.
"I don't have — I don't maintain — a file of eight years of work in the state Senate because I didn't have the resources available to maintain those kinds of records," he said at a recent campaign stop in Iowa. He said he wasn't sure where any cache of records might have gone, adding, "It could have been thrown out. I haven't been in the state Senate now for quite some time."
RATE THIS COMMENT: (0)
Jackie In Texas
11:14PM Mar 2nd 2008
I would not care if Barack Hussein Obama was a Muslim.
After sixteen years of scandals what this nation needs is a national cheerleader.
Congress and the senate make laws.
This nation needs someone that will lift us up and work toward national unity.
The Clintons would never be able to accomplish that.
It’s time that this nation become color blind and tolerant of all people regardless of ethnicity, religion, and political beliefs. That is why this conservative Republican is supporting Barack Hussein Obama.
Why not John McCain?
Because he is more of the same…..
But if the Clinton’s pull it off I will support John McCain….