Iran Defies, Obama Complies

Trinity United Church of Christ



Obama mentioned his church during his appearance with Oprah. It's the 'Trinity United Church of Christ'.

It is very alarming. Barack Obama is a member of this church and is running for President of the U.S. If you look at the first page of their Web site, you will learn that this congregation has a non-negotiable commitment to Africa. No where is America even mentioned. Notice too, what color you will need to be if you should want to join Obama's church? Does this surprise anyone?


Doesn't look like his choice of religion has improved much over his Muslim upbringing. This guy wants to rule America while his loyalty is totally vested in a black Africa !

I cannot believe this has not been all over the TV and newspapers. This is why it is so important to pass this message along to all our family and friends. To think that Obama has even the slightest chance in the run for the presidency is really scary.

Mr. Paulette,

I think quite the contrary. As I watched the three candidates in action, I saw two who simply trade barbs of irresponsibility, while a third seriously raised a question the general himself did not want to face.

Petraeus had to admit that we could not rid Iraq of Al Quaeda, and he had to concede that Iraq's government listens more to Iran than the U.S. Obama's key question was one Petraeus did not want to answer: what would it take to get our troops out without things getting worse for Iraq? Obama's suggestion to the committee was to seek utilizing someone who Iraqis will listen to, which in effect could kill two birds with one stone. Iraq becomes more stable, which allows us to have an orderly withdraw, and we ease diplomatic tensions with Iran, which could work toward more cooperation regarding their nuclear program. In any event, with our troops home, our arsenals replenished, we are better prepared to act militarily in the event things turn sour.

All three candidates, however, failed miserably in not pressing the Iraqi oil profit issue more. IMO all of them, especially McCain who supports a more extended presence, should be pressing Iraq to pay our military bills. War is not charity, and we should not be in the business of donating our troops to police another nation.

Well, we just need to tell those Iranians they haven't lived until they have sat through a rousing Barack Obama sermon, uh I mean speech.

What happens when the Iranian president says to Barack Obama "convert to Islam, the religion of your father and grandfather or we attack America"?

WWBD - What would Barack do?

Probably tell the Iranian nutjob that he's really a Muslim but is biding his time, while telling Americans that he is a christian. I guess it could work at that...for a while.

I HAVE TO TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS EMAIL, I WAS IN THE MILITARY MYSELF, AND UNDERSTAND YOU PUSH YOUR TROOPS TO THE LIMIT AND THAT IS NOT A FREE PRICE FOR THE IRAQI PEOPLE. ALL WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS HIS CHURCH(OBAMA). MR BLOGGER PLEASE KEEP YOUR EYE ON WHATS HAPPENING IN THIS COUNTRY WITH GAS PRICES, FOOD PRICES,AND ENERGY PRICES. IF WE DON'T CORRECT THIS MISTAKE WE ARE ALL IN TROUBLE AND I MEAN ALL PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. WHEN YOUR RIGHTS GET TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU AND ME, YOU WILL BE TYPING A DIFFERENT MESSAGE. YOU BETTER HOPE SENATOR CLINTON OR OBAMA GET IN OFFICE, OR WE WILL BE A COUNTRY GOING DOWN IN DISTRUCTION. GOOD DAY

Donit you believe the Bible, The Word Says if you teach a child in the way he should go he will not depart from that way when he become a man. All Africa
is not Islamic there are all kind of religions in that country. Think about it. I have not seen a President yet that walk into office knowing what to do about War. That why they appoint people to be around them that can deal with those issues and give
them the proper information to make an informed decision. STOP hateing be for real. It time for
a change and new beginnings. The church that he is
a member of is historally a white church belonging to
a now mixed national assemble. Stop hateing.

Three Scores and Five.

"Obama mentioned his church during his appearance with Oprah. It's the 'Trinity United Church of Christ'.

It is very alarming. Barack Obama is a member of this church and is running for President of the U.S. If you look at the first page of their Web site, you will learn that this congregation has a non-negotiable commitment to Africa. No where is America even mentioned. Notice too, what color you will need to be if you should want to join Obama's church? Does this surprise anyone?


Doesn't look like his choice of religion has improved much over his Muslim upbringing. This guy wants to rule America while his loyalty is totally vested in a black Africa !

I cannot believe this has not been all over the TV and newspapers. This is why it is so important to pass this message along to all our family and friends. To think that Obama has even the slightest chance in the run for the presidency is really scary."

-John


And I cannot believe that you would comment from a position so clearly uninformed, racist, and bigoted. If you had bothered to investigate beyond the video loops you would know that TUCC is open to all races, and indeed, is attended by whites as well as blacks. Reverend Wright, in spite of his faults, is an accomplished American. He served ably in the military, and was chosen to be a personal medical attendee to President Johnson. Obama is a patriotic American, who willingly chose public service over a large corporate salary. Furthermore, there has been plenty of coverage of TUCC by the MSM. Your comments are prejudicial, in that they originate from ignorance and imply a religious hierarchy (Clearly, Islam and whatever it is they're practicing at TUCC are inferior to whatever it is you are practicing.).

Ken Blackwell, a columinist for the New York Sun wrote this about Barack Obama. "Mr. Obama is a foreign policy novice who would put our national security at risk.
"Over the summer, Mr. Obama talked about invading Pakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons; meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to destroy Israel and create another Holocaust; and Kim JongII, who is murdering and starving his people, but emphasized that the nuclear option was off the table against terrorists - something no president has ever taken off the table since we created nuclear weapons in the 1940s."

Mr.Blackwell went on to say that "even Democrats who have worked in national security condemned all of Mr. Obama's remarks. As one of the leading most liberal senators in the U.S Senate, The real Mr. Obama will be an easy target for the Republicans in the general election. But Mr. Obama could win if people don't start looking behind his veneer and flowery speeches."

"His vision of "bringing America together" means saying that those who disagree with his agenda for America are hijackers or warmongers."
Mr. Obama's definition of uniting the country means adopting his liberal agenda and abandoning any conflicting beliefs."

If not Hillary Clinton in November, I'll vote for John McCain.

and for u all pro war people..if u are so patrotic please go to your nearest recruiting office and enlist..the army is taking people up till the age of 42..thought so..u all are CHICKEN SHIT..yeah i served for 8 years...stop whining unless u r ready to but your ass on the front line

davidg

let it go bro'
last time the only american to get arrested for help al queda was a white guy from cali...

Justin,

While I applaud you for taking on the issue of Iran's nuclear program in your blog, I can't help but be sorely disappointed in the way you chose to do it. All this particular article amounts to is a continuation of the "Iraq withdrawl = bad" talking point. You don't even really have any evidence or reasoning to make the connection either; simply, you characterize every aspect of his foreign policy as horrible based only on the above logic that withdrawls are bad. That's not fair nor is it even intellectually sound.

Also, I think it is dangerous to insinuate that the use of sanctions and diplomacy when dealing with Iran are not enough. This implicit endorsement of military intervention is exactly the kind of gung-ho attitude that we do not need in our foreign policy. There is a very real possibility that it is these kinds of implicit threats of violence that have Iran so hell bent on their centrifuge program in the first place.

Lastly, has anyone ever told you that you look like Nicholas Cage in your little blog pic?

From renfroe caver jr8:20AMApr 9th 2008

I HAVE TO TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS EMAIL, I WAS IN THE MILITARY MYSELF, AND UNDERSTAND YOU PUSH YOUR TROOPS TO THE LIMIT AND THAT IS NOT A FREE PRICE FOR THE IRAQI PEOPLE. ALL WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS HIS CHURCH(OBAMA). MR BLOGGER PLEASE KEEP YOUR EYE ON WHATS HAPPENING IN THIS COUNTRY WITH GAS PRICES, FOOD PRICES,AND ENERGY PRICES. IF WE DON'T CORRECT THIS MISTAKE WE ARE ALL IN TROUBLE AND I MEAN ALL PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. WHEN YOUR RIGHTS GET TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU AND ME, YOU WILL BE TYPING A DIFFERENT MESSAGE. YOU BETTER HOPE SENATOR CLINTON OR OBAMA GET IN OFFICE, OR WE WILL BE A COUNTRY GOING DOWN IN DISTRUCTION. GOOD DAY
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From me: In my opinion based on research Obama has ties to terrorists, some domestic some foreign. Among them is Hamas. Hamas is a branch of the Muslim brotherhood, whose memo declares they will destroy America from within.

The Arabs have vast amounts of money, they have the oil. They can manipulate our oil supply and price thus driving the cost of everything in America UP. Thus dragging our country DOWN. Making someone whose promises with words as cloying as honey about CHANGE and HOPE. They can tip our election in favor of a person they have reason to believe is on their side.

Obama also has Penny Pritzker, a white woman as the mastermind of his campaign finance.
We also know she was on the Board of Superior Bank a Chicago-area thrift that was seized by federal regulators after it ran into problems with sub prime lending.

The sub prime mess is also driving the economic distress in the U.S If you traced today’s sub-prime crisis back to its origins, you would come upon the role of the Pritzkers and Superior Bank of Chicago. This has pushed thousands of homeowners toward foreclosure today.

It would be accurate to say the Pritzkers ran a very large nation-wide predatory lending operation. They targeted the very core of Obama's supporters, blacks. Ms. Pritzker’s role in the bank failure, should undermines this candidate’s criticisms of sub prime lenders who target low-income borrowers.

One reason we don't hear the Clinton campaign raising this as an issue is because Penny's brother has apparently been playing a spokes-person role in Hillary's campaign.

In May of 2007, Jay Robert, (J.B.), threw his support behind Hillary Clinton, representing a coup for her campaign by wresting the billionaire out of Obama’s home town of Chicago, and better still, the brother of Obama’s Campaign Finance Chair.
J.B. Pritzker announced he would head a new grassroots organization called Citizens for Hillary Clinton. Pritzker told reporters at the time, the new organization would go into states “where we haven’t fully organized” and seek out campaign supporters as well as raise funds.

Apparently the Pritzkers will be sitting at the head table at the Inaugural Ball if either Democrat wins. Vote John McCain and keep them out.

Also in question are Obama's choices in foreign policy
people. Two or three of them are from Carter's team.

If you recall how Carter cozied up to extremists leading to the death of the American friendly, Shaw of Iran? The kidnapping of Americans which were held until Reagan came to office? That tell you just how STUPID obama is in his choices?

He also needs a lot of help too. He has as many as 150 people working on foreign policy. Wonder how many families could be fed on those salaries? Many of them were Bill Clinton's former foreign policy makers.

I also question the wisdom of Obama's Bill to give the UN $845,000,000,000 of taxpayers money. If it has to be borrowed that is like 1.5 T.

Isabella,

"Over the summer, Mr. Obama talked about invading Pakistan"

Isn't it ironic that while Obama was ridiculed and labeled a "foreign policy novice" because he said that if Pakistan would not help and THERE WAS ACTIONABLE INTELLIGENCE that said that Al-Qeda terrorists were hiding out in Pakistan, he would strike against them a short time ago, the American government did exactly what Obama said we should do and as a result a key Al-Qeda leader was killed.

Why do we think that McCain and Clinton have such great foreign policy know-how? First, they both are a part of why we are in this horrible mess with Iraq in the first place. I'm supposed to trust the judgement of them when they clearly were so short sighted and caught up in avenging America that they didn't ask the right questions or have the foresight to see that we would end up right where we are? Say what you want about Obama, but read his speech about why he opposed the war. His judgement and understanding of foreign relations is right there and apparently he has more of it than his two opponents.

Furthermore, when will Americans wake up and realize that this world has changed and our policies are antiquated. McCain is tauted as this great military leader but guess what...wars aren't even faught the same as they used to be. Why are we still in Iraq...why hasn't "mission accomplished" actually been accomplished? Why don't we even have a plan to get out? McCain isn't answering those questions because he doesn't even seem to know that they should be asked! He has no endpoint. Obama made that point in the questioning of Petraeus. The bar that they set is unattainable. So, without some real change in leadership we will be at the next election and the next one and the next one after that still wondering how we'll get out of Iraq! or Iran! or any number of other places that McCain will want to invade!

By the way I am a white professional business owner as well.

The Republicans would swiftboat Obama on a variety of issues regarding his "patriotism:" Here's another one:

http://www.commonvoice.com/article.asp?colid=8310

Vote Hillary Clinton while we still have a chance!

Much ado about a middle name
Amir Taheri is an Iranian author based in Europe.


Published in the GULF NEWS on February 5, 2008.
Is pronouncing a man's middle name tantamount to insulting him? In the case of Senator Barack Obama, the favourite to win the Democratic Party's nomination for the presidency of the United States, the answer appears to be yes.

Senator Hillary Clinton, Obama's last remaining rival within the party, has already apologised because her aides used "the unmentionable middle name", ostensibly without her consent.

Last week, it was the turn of Senator John McCain, the Republican Party's presumptive nominee and Obama's possible rival in the final contest, to apologise because the host of a meeting he attended was rash enough to pronounce the seven-letter word.

The word in question is Hussain, Obama's middle name that was also the name of his Kenyan Muslim father.

What is astonishing is that Senator Obama has accepted the apologies as if the use of his father's name was, indeed, an insult.

What is the rationale behind this strange behaviour?
It is simple. Hussain is an Arabic word supposed to have a negative resonance with many Americans, reminding them of Saddam Hussain, the late Iraqi dictator who has entered American folklore as arch-villain. The fact that, in Arabic, Hussain means "most benign" or "very beautiful" is not enough to persuade Obama and his PR gurus to treat it more kindly.

However, Obama's problem does not end with censoring his middle name. His first name, Barack, is also Arabic, from the stem barakah meaning "blessing". His surname Obama, from Swahili, the Arabic-based lingua franca of East Africa, refers to members of the Luo tribe who converted to Islam.

In other words, Barack Hussain Obama Jr's name is a perfectly ordinary identification for someone with an ethnic East African Muslim background.

What is troubling about Obama's approach to the mini-storm stirred by his political enemies over his name, is what may look like an attempt at obfuscation. He has behaved as if he did have a family secret, and as if the name Hussain was something to be ashamed of.

Obama's efforts to distance himself from Islam, is in contrast with his innovative approach to US relations with its Islamist challengers.

President George W. Bush has chosen the "iron fist" option by invading Afghanistan and Iraq, building quarantine around Iran, keeping the Baathist regime in Syria in check, and helping a dozen Muslim states fight Al Qaida or its variants on their soil. Both Senators

McCain and Clinton offer variations on the same theme, albeit with caveats designed to satisfy their respective constituencies.

By contrast, Obama is offering a policy of dialogue and accommodation. He has opposed the listing of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organisation, and proposed a grand bargain with the regime in Damascus. Obama is even prepared to ignore two United Nations' Security Council resolutions that require Iran to stop its uranium enrichment programme as a precondition for talks at the highest level.

In an important symbolic move designed to signal an end of the special relationship between Israel and the United States,, Obama has become the first major American presidential candidate in more than 30 years not to commit himself to transferring the US embassy to the Jewish state from Tel Aviv to Occupied Jerusalem.

Last but not least, Obama has promised to withdraw from Iraq within the first year of his presidency, thus meeting one of the key demands of radical Muslim forces, whether Sunni or Shiite.

The message is clear: Obama wants a new relationship with radical forces in the Islamic world while distancing the US from its traditional allies in the region. In other words, he proposes to reverse policies that have taken shape over more than six decades under 12 successive American presidents.

It is this revolutionary idea that deserves to be closely examined, studied and debated, not the origin and meaning of Obama's middle name.

The Belmont Club
History and History in the Making
Sunday, February 17, 2008

From the 5th Annual U.S.-Islamic World Forum

Tamara Cofman Wittes, who's attending the annual 5th Annual U.S.-Islamic World Forum notices that anti-US rhetoric is way down this year. Instead of fire-breathing anti-American keynote speakers, "the opening keynote was instead delivered by President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan, who argued that Muslims in Afghanistan and Bosnia were right to expect and accept American military intervention to relieve their suffering, and America was just in coming to their aid."

The reason for the change in tone has been a grudging respect for successes in American foreign policy and Washington's new focus on Iran.

Oh yes..... I am a white business owner.

Davidg8:03AMApr 9th 2008

Well, we just need to tell those Iranians they haven't lived until they have sat through a rousing Barack Obama sermon, uh I mean speech.

What happens when the Iranian president says to Barack Obama "convert to Islam, the religion of your father and grandfather or we attack America"?

WWBD - What would Barack do?

Probably tell the Iranian nutjob that he's really a Muslim but is biding his time, while telling Americans that he is a christian. I guess it could work at that...for a while.
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Barack himself has already told the world what he would do!!!! All one has to do is read his book "DREAMS OF MY FATHER" Just a few quotes from his own choice of words and emotions.
Obama from Dreams of my Father...

"I CEASED TO ADVERISE MY MOTHER'S RACE AT THE AGE OF12 OR 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites"

" I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER'S RACE".

"The emotion between the races could never be pure.....THE OTHER RACE (WHITE) WOULD ALWAYS REMAIN JUST THAT: MENACING, ALIEN AND APART"

"never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. IT WAS INTO MY FATHER'S IMAGE , THE BLACK MAN, THE SON OF AFRICA, THAT I'D PACKED ALL THE ATTRIBUTES I SOUGHT IN MYSELF"

"THAT HATE HADN'T GONE AWAY," he wrote, "BLAMING WHITE PEOPLE,- SOME CRUEL, SOME IGNORANT, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives."


His rage at the white world needed no object, no independent confirmation; it could be switched on and off at his own pleasure.

Read his book and find out what he said about
"If the winds should change"
Richiemac

This article's premise is deeply flawed from my perspective. The article finishes with....

"Obama's lack of serious appreciation for foreign affairs and conflicts has not yet caused him much fret - as his foil thus far in the Democratic contest has proved equally frivolous. However, should Obama win the nomination, he will soon find himself grossly over-matched by a contestant with vastly superior international relations credentials and a willingness to speak of victory in unhesitating tones. The general election is going to prove a very different contest for Sen. Obama."

Lets see here, over matched by a person who's every move has brought this country to the brink of disaster? A person who has consistently voted against social progress in the country? A person who has consistent voted to place this nation in debt never seen in this country since after the great depression and world war II? A person who has consistently voted to do nothing about the average person in this country, yet everyone who is in the middle class knows there has been a recession going on for 7 years? A person who has consistently voted to keep this country in a perpetual war that has only destroyed this country's image abroad? A person who has consistently voted to take the liberty, justice and freedom guaranteed in the Constitution for it's citizens?

Obama has no experience ruining this country perhaps.

The Iraq war will go down as the worst strategic blunder in our nations history. Those who have driven this country off into the ditch only have experience wrecking this country.

If you want more of what we have had in this country vote for "experience".

The person who wrote this article needs a history lesson regarding the experience we have had in this country over the last 7 years. The author of this article must have been living under a rock that last few years.

Deward Bowles
White, 48, professional, business owner.