The LA Times is reporting a link between Bill Clinton and the Chinese crackdown in Tibet, via his foundation:
(Senator Clinton's) recent stern comments on China's internal crackdown collide with former President Bill Clinton's fundraising relationship with a Chinese Internet company accused of collaborating with the mainland government's censorship of the Web. Last month, the firm, Alibaba Inc., carried a government-issued "most wanted" posting on its Yahoo China homepage, urging viewers to provide information on Tibetan activists suspected of stirring recent riots.
Alibaba, which took over Yahoo's China operation in 2005 as part of a billion-dollar deal with the U.S.-based search engine, arranged for the former president to speak to a conference of Internet executives in Hangzhou in September 2005. Instead of taking his standard speaking fees, which have ranged from $100,000 to $400,000, Clinton accepted an unspecified private donation from Alibaba to his international charity, the William J. Clinton Foundation.
The LA Times seems to be trying to hang this around the Clintons' neck, but links like this are flimsy at best. As long as Senator and former President Clinton make clear that they condemn this activity, this is not a big deal. I wouldn't even call for the foundation to return the money, as it is a charity that does great work around the world, and its beneficiaries should not be made to suffer.
The issue of transparency with regard to the foundation's donors is a tricky one that needs to be addressed, but if donors have requested anonymity, that should be respected. I would suggest that the foundation insist, going forward, that its donors be willing to be identified.
An even greater opportunity exists for Senator Clinton to highlight the "deals with the devil" that the US government, and other US companies, have made in exchange for access to China's markets and cheap goods. I think this classic clip from CBC's Erin Burnett sums it up elegantly.
The LA Times seems to be trying to hang this around the Clintons' neck, but links like this are flimsy at best. As long as Senator and former President Clinton make clear that they condemn this activity, this is not a big deal. I wouldn't even call for the foundation to return the money, as it is a charity that does great work around the world, and its beneficiaries should not be made to suffer.
Why are we hearing about this? Maybe so we can avoid other subjects?
Is it a slow news day? That's probably it.
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JOHN
10:18AM Apr 13th 2008
During a Michelle Obama appearance at Carnegie Mellon University, the school paper The Tartan reported the attention-getting phrase: The Tartan's correspondents observed one event coordinator say to another, "Get me more white people, we need more white people." To an Asian girl sitting in the back row, one coordinator said, "We're moving you, sorry. It's going to look so pretty, though."
"I didn't know they would say, 'We need a white person here,' " said attendee and senior psychology major Shayna Watson, who sat in the crowd behind Mrs. Obama. "I understood they would want a show of diversity, but to pick up people and to reseat them, I didn't know it would be so outright."
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Mary O\\\'Bryan\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
10:29AM Apr 13th 2008
Who cares, Hillary is running for President, not Bill and don't forget it!!! Obama cannot win the Presidency. Obama has finally revealed himself for the far left latte drinker that he has been since the start. Remember, divide and conquer in Europe by taking advantage of the youth and minority races? Starting to rack them up and the republicans will have a field day in November i.e. monster, NAFTAgate, his real plans for his Irag withdrawal revealed, small town slam and oh yeah, [W]right!!!! Obama’s latest truly revealing small small town slam calling “US” bitter, etc., finally shows him for the elitist rat that he has been from the start and has managed to hide thus far. Wake up America! He doesn't care a thing about promoting anybody but himself. We need Hillary Clinton. We can still save the nominating process and the Democratic Party, if we do the right thing in the primaries left to come. Let's not let the rest of America down. Decisive wins for Hillary in all remaining primaries will put Obama back in his rightful place- a rookie senator. We can still do this and I know the rest of "US" is counting on us. One last thing, where are the ranting raves by the MSM on this issue and why aren't they running this over and over and over again? He will lose the nomination because he is finally identified as the inferior candidate. We have to beat McCain in the fall Americans. Vote Hillary for a victory for the Democrats in November, otherwise we're doomed.
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Treasurewave
10:28AM Apr 13th 2008
Even as a regular CNBC watcher, I wouldn't put too much stock in anything Erin Burnett has to say. After all, she was also the one who said "marijuana isn't a drug, is it?" Cheap, and or poisonous, products are not was has kept interest rates low in the US. It was the selling of all the finacial derivatives to Asian interests that kept them low. And as our financial institutions start to reel from the overselling of derivatives, what do you think is going to happen when all that Asian investment in the US starts to falter? President Bush said last week that we should take the foreign investments because, after all, it was our money in the first place. He was referencing both the oil rich countries of the Middle East and China. So now that many of those investments have been devalued to the point of "not worth the paper they're written on," where did all that money go? All the "deals with the devil" are definitely an empty glass from which no one will be able to drink in the end.
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one not for pickler fan!
10:41AM Apr 13th 2008
I agree Tommy. We all have that six degrees of separation thing. I mean if you want to get real technical about all of this, anyone who buys a Kia or ¾ of the junk from Wal Marts shelves are supporting the Chinese Gov. It is silly how the media has pulled all of the Clinton dirty laundry out, but she is still hanging in there…..so now we have to decipher through this kind of pure silliness.
I say again way to much attention is being paid to the spouses in this election. Well, except for the one that shouldn’t be allowed within ten feet of the White House…..Cindy McCain!
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one not for pickler fan!
10:43AM Apr 13th 2008
I agree Tommy. We all have that six degrees of separation thing. I mean if you want to get real technical about all of this, anyone who buys a Kia or ¾ of the junk from Wal Marts shelves are supporting the Chinese Gov. It is silly how the media has pulled all of the Clinton dirty laundry out, but she is still hanging in there…..so now we have to decipher through this kind of pure silliness.
I say again way to much attention is being paid to the spouses in this election. Well, except for the one that shouldn’t be allowed within ten feet of the White House…..Cindy McCain!
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one not for pickler fan!
10:45AM Apr 13th 2008
I agree Tommy. We all have that six degrees of separation thing. I mean if you want to get real technical about all of this, anyone who buys a Kia or ¾ of the junk from Wal Marts shelves are supporting the Chinese Gov. It is silly how the media has pulled all of the Clinton dirty laundry out, but she is still hanging in there…..so now we have to wade through this kind of pure silliness.
I say again way to much attention is being paid to the spouses in this election. Well, except for the one that shouldn’t be allowed within ten feet of the White House…..Cindy McCain!
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YOUR DADDY
10:59AM Apr 13th 2008
EVERYONE KEEPS APOLOGIZING FOR THE MAN,WHEN IS HE GOING TO BE RESPOSBLE FOR HIS OWN MOUTH?
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kyle
11:24AM Apr 13th 2008
CLINTON'S SHOULD DENOUNCE THEMSELVES AS LIARS, ARROGANT AND WEALTHY ELITISTS. WE ALL KNOW WHO THEY HAVE ELBOWED AND PARTIED WITH. ABOUT NOW, HILLARY AND BILL ARE SHOWING THEIR SHEER DESPERATION AND UNCONTROLABLE EXASPERATION; GRASPING AT ANY STRAWS THAT WILL PULL THEM OUT OF THE DOWNHILL HEAP THEY ARE IN. THEIR SLIME-BALL CAMPAIGN SERVES TO LOWER THE DUO'S STATUS IN THE MINDS OF VOTERS. THAT IS A PLUS FOR THE OPPOSITION.
ALWAYS BEEN KNOW HOW LOW CLINTON'S WILL GO! PAR!
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janitt dott
11:29AM Apr 13th 2008
I have TRIED to gain attention for THIS article ALL over the internet.
But, so far, while the press has clamped down on Sen Clinton and her husband like pitbulls about what she DIDN'T do in...Bosnia...I have not seen ANY mention ANY where on what she DID do IN China as the First Lady with her fierce and courageous stand for human rights for women WAY back in 1995.
"Speaking more forcefully on human rights than any American dignitary has on Chinese soil, Hillary Rodham Clinton catalogued a devastating litany of abuse that has afflicted women around the world today and criticized China for seeking to limit free and open discussion of women's issues.
"It is time for us to say here in Beijing, and the world to hear, that it is no longer acceptable to discuss women's rights as separate from human rights," Mrs. Clinton told the Fourth World Conference on Women assembled here.
Mrs. Clinton expanded on a theme that Pakistan's Prime Minister, Benazir Bhutto, raised when she told the delegates that violence against women thrives when there is a "crisis of silence and acquiescence."
please read this excellent article.
For that crisis of silence and acquiescence has continued in the deeply entrenched sexism of the American Media toward THAT capable First Lady as she attempts to become the first WOMAN president.
I don't think we can be too high handed about censorship in China when it is clearly SO blatant here...at home...in the coverage of the Democratic Primary.
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kyle
11:27AM Apr 13th 2008
CLINTON'S SHOULD DENOUNCE THEMSELVES AS LIARS, ARROGANT AND WEALTHY ELITISTS. WE ALL KNOW WHO THEY HAVE ELBOWED AND PARTIED WITH. ABOUT NOW, HILLARY AND BILL ARE SHOWING THEIR SHEER DESPERATION AND UNCONTROLABLE EXASPERATION; GRASPING AT ANY STRAWS THAT WILL PULL THEM OUT OF THE DOWNHILL HEAP THEY ARE IN. THEIR SLIME-BALL CAMPAIGN SERVES TO LOWER THE DUO'S STATUS IN THE MINDS OF VOTERS. THAT IS A PLUS FOR THE OPPOSITION.
ALWAYS BEEN KNOW HOW LOW CLINTON'S WILL GO! PAR!
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JimM
11:41AM Apr 13th 2008
I see some of you keep picking on Bill Clinton for supporting his wife. Okay go right ahead.
I guess then that makes Michelle Obama fair game too. She is Obama's spouse is she not? After all she wants to be the First Lady of the US. This would make questions to her relevant.
Where is she? Not put on a short leash like some of the rest of Obama's friends: Rezko, Farrakhan, Reverend Write, Reverend Al Sharpton, etc.
When she shows up eventually, here are some questions she could answer.
"Will you still be proud of your country if Obama does not get the democratic nomination?"
"Do you think your husband will turn back to drugs when the going gets tough--as many others have?" (Or did he ever stop?)
"Why did you take your children to listen to such vile repugnant sermons at Obama's and your church?"
"Does you husband hold the same racist, anti-America, anti-white views as his mentor, Reverend Wright?"
"What makes you feel that after listening to 20 years of BS by Reverend Wright that Obama can mend the racial divisiveness that he says pervades our society?"
"Do you feel your husband is patriotic and if so list 10 reasons why."
Rumors have it that your husband is still doing drugs and is gay. "Could you please clear this up?"
But lastly and most important, "Why do you think Obama can be entrusted with the security of this great nation?"
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TERRANCE
12:00PM Apr 13th 2008
THE NAME CLINTON SPELLS LOSERS FROM THE GET-GO! THEY CAN SAY AND DO ANYTHING BUT IT WILL NOT PHASE VOTERS THIS YEAR. THIS YEAR STINK WON'T FLY AND CLINTONS HAVE HAD YEARS OF FULL BLOWN STINK ON THEM THAT WILL SOON SURFACE. WAIT TILL THE REPERS TEAR INTO THEM THEY WILL BE WISHING THEY HAD USED A FAIR PLAYING FIELD INSTEAD OF PLAYING FROM THE SAME OLD BOOK OF DIRTY POLITICS OF YORE. THEIR TIME IS NIGH AND THEY BETTER HOPE THEY HAVE THEIR ASS PADS ON CAUSE THE REPERS ARE WAITING IN THE WINGS TO DELIVER THEM FROM THE RACE. WHEN THE BIG GUNS BRING ON THE HEAT< THEIR PISS-POOR ATTACKS ON OBAMA WILL LOOK LIKE CHILD'S PLAY. CLINTONS, THE BULLYS, WILL CRUMBLE AND START WHINING AND MOANING LIKE DYING CALVES. MCCAIN WILL NOT BE THE HITMAN BUT THE HENCHMEN WILL GET DOWN AND DIRTY AS DAYS WIND DOWN. BILL AND HILLARY CAN COUNT ON IT. THE REPERS ARE IN IT TO WIN. THE SHALLOW SHRINKING CLINTONS WILL NEED SOME STARCH TO WITHSTAND THE RUCKUS FRAY THAT LIES AHEAD WHEN THE REPERS PULL OUT ALL STOPS. CLINTONS ARE A DISGRACE. VOTERS HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN WHO THE CLINTONS ARE. NOR HAVE THE THE SUPERDELEGATES.
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TERRANCE
12:07PM Apr 13th 2008
THE NAME CLINTONS SPELLS LOSERS FROM THE GET-GO. THEY CAN SAY ANYTHING AND DO ANYTHING BUT IT WILL NOT PHASE VOTERS THIS YEAR. THIS YEAR STINK WON'T FLY AND CLINTONS HAVE HAD YEARS OF FULL BLOWN STINK ON THEM THAT WILL SOON SURFACE. WAIT TILL THE REPERS TEAR INTO THEM THEY WILL BE WISHING THEY HAD USED A FAIR PLAYING FIELD INSTEAD OF PLAYING FROM THE SAME OLD BOOK OF DIRTY POLITICS OF YORE. THEIR TIME IS NIGH AND THEY BETTER HOPE THEY HAVE THEIR ASS PADS ON CAUSE THE REPERS ARE WAITING IN THE WINGS TO DELIVER THEM FROM THE RACE. WHEN THE BIG GUNS BRING ON THE HEAT. THEIR PISS-POOR ATTACKS ON OBAMA WILL LOOK LIKE CHILD'S PLAY. CLINTONS, THE BULLYS, WILL CRUMBLE AND START WHINING AND MOANING LIKE DYING CALVES. MCCAIN WILL NOT BE THE HITMAN BUT THE HENCHMEN WILL GET DOWN AND DIRTY AS DAYS WIND DOWN. BILL AND HILLARY CAN COUNT ON IT. THE REPERS ARE IN IT TO WIN. THE SHALLOW SHRINKING CLINTONS WILL NEED SOME STARCH TO WITHSTAND THE RUCKUS FRAY THAT LIES AHEAD WHEN THE REPERS PULL OUT ALL STOPS. CLINTONS ARE A DISGRACE. VOTERS HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN WHO THE CLINTONS ARE. NOR HAVE THE SUPERDELEGATES.
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Isabella Ardolino
12:12PM Apr 13th 2008
janitt dott11:29AMApr 13th 2008
I have TRIED to gain attention for THIS article ALL over the internet.
But, so far, while the press has clamped down on Sen Clinton and her husband like pitbulls about what she DIDN'T do in...Bosnia...I have not seen ANY mention ANY where on what she DID do IN China as the First Lady with her fierce and courageous stand for human rights for women WAY back in 1995.
"Speaking more forcefully on human rights than any American dignitary has on Chinese soil, Hillary Rodham Clinton catalogued a devastating litany of abuse that has afflicted women around the world today and criticized China for seeking to limit free and open discussion of women's issues.
"It is time for us to say here in Beijing, and the world to hear, that it is no longer acceptable to discuss women's rights as separate from human rights," Mrs. Clinton told the Fourth World Conference on Women assembled here.
Mrs. Clinton expanded on a theme that Pakistan's Prime Minister, Benazir Bhutto, raised when she told the delegates that violence against women thrives when there is a "crisis of silence and acquiescence."
please read this excellent article.
For that crisis of silence and acquiescence has continued in the deeply entrenched sexism of the American Media toward THAT capable First Lady as she attempts to become the first WOMAN president.
I don't think we can be too high handed about censorship in China when it is clearly SO blatant here...at home...in the coverage of the Democratic Primary __________________________________________________ Janet, Thank you! This certainly merits being repeated.
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PAULINE
12:13PM Apr 13th 2008
re the l.a. times:
The L.A. TIMES was the paper who investigated Hillary Clinton's SENATE campaign FRAUD aka CLINTON'S CHINESE LAUNDERY SCAM. SAYS IT ALL!!!!!!!!
The culture of corruption tides again!!!!!! Clintons have not changed their spots or dirty linen either.
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JOHN
12:23PM Apr 13th 2008
Report This! am getting real reactions from People whom did not know that Obama Is 43% Arab ! make sure you write this in emails Who Is He Who is Barack Obama? by: Matt Ruegar - Rogue Butterfly http://rogue_butterfly.250free.com/Rants/BarakObama.htm
He is makin a fool out of Blacks Whites and Every other Human being That lives in our Country ! Demand Obama Withdraw His Candidacy For President Due To His Association With Reverend Wright http://www.usalone.net/cgi-bin/oen.cgi?qnum=3787
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terry kenmore
12:18PM Apr 13th 2008
CLINTONS OVER THE YEARS HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE THE BALD-ASS LIARS THEY ARE AND STILL ARE: