Obama's denouncement now does not negate the fact that he attended Wright's church for 20 years and subjected his two daughters to Wright's distorted views. This denouncement is too little, too late.
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sherry
10:10AM May 1st 2008
No, He said months ago that wright was his spiritual leader. Yesterday he said that he had never been his spititual leader. Just one more lie. Please keep him out of the white house. He frightens me. Sherry
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HJ
11:36AM Apr 30th 2008
Much too little - Decades too late . . . And did you know that Hillary is currently leading in the popular vote? I just heard it on Fox News! GO HILLARY!!!
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Bobbi150
11:38AM Apr 30th 2008
Nothing new came out of the weekend rantings by Rev. Wright. Obama knew about the HIV aids issue and all the black liberation theology when he gave his famous "race speech". Clearly, Obama did not like being "dissed" by Rev. Wright this weekend who stated that he would come after Obama if he became president. In my opinion, Obama did not feel the need to denounce him for the hatred toward whites but rather that he came after Obama personally.
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Joyce
11:42AM Apr 30th 2008
With friends like Wright who needs enemies? I don't know why anyone would sit & listen to our country being condemned. Love it or leave it. It's in need fixing...there is no doubt about that. Hillary Clinton is the only candidate ready & able to begin the repair work. I still don't think Obama is a bad person. It's about the one who will be ready on day one. Hillary knows her stuff & she will make an exceptional president when she defeats McCain. Obama has a lot to learn yet. His time will come later. WE NEED HILLARY NOW!
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leelea
11:45AM Apr 30th 2008
I don't think it's too late. Yes he attended for 20 years, but Obama said he didn't hear the comments and other congregation members said they didn't hear inflammatory sermons either. It is a congregation of 8000 people, so I can't see 8000 members, including Oprah Winfrey, lying. Yes, Wright can get flamboyant, but they played 3 snippets over 30 years. That's not the horrible part, the horrible part is running the snippets over and over and not concentrating on the other candidates mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes, and the Christian thing to do, is to agree to disagree. What would Jesus Do? You can love Wright as a human being and disagree with his ideas. I was taught that in church, you have to learn to interpret what Pastors say at times, because they too are human and if they were perfect, there would be no purpose for God to exist. God is the only thing that is perfect and without fault.
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Pat
11:45AM Apr 30th 2008
Kinda long but worth reading-about Obama's gay sex and drug use in 1999.
Obama’s Dubious Past Goes ‘Mainstream’ April 10th, 2008 J Cifre, J.D. Posted in American News, Political Analysis |
Yesterday in Puerto Rico, a bombshell fell on Barack Obama’s hopes to at least win a small percentage of primary votes in said jurisdiction (he was only receiving 20% of support in the polls). This “bomb” goes by the name of Larry Sinclair and his allegations of homosexuality and cocaine use against Barack Hussein Obama, which happened to go ‘prime time’ yesterday throughout the Island.
For those of you who do not know the story, Larry Sinclair is a gay man who claims that ‘when Barack Obama was a member of the Illinois Senate he met twice with Larry Sinclair in November 1999 in Chicago, obtained cocaine for the both of them and consumed it (crack cocaine smoked through a glass pipe in the Senator’s case). On both occasions they also participated in consensual sexual acts with each other.’ After his allegations became known through his Youtube video (WATCH HERE), a website (WhiteHouse.com) offered Larry Sinclair money in exchange for his taking of a polygraph test on their site. On the site, they constantly assured the public that they were going to video-record the proceedings and post it on their website, all in hopes of giving full disclosure of the results. As many of you may remember, this supposed video was never posted/published (never has) and, running late on their own schedule, decided to ONLY post a brief description of the “analysis” of the results (supposedly provided by two independent researchers which claimed that he had failed it). Obviously, since the video of the process was never presented to their readers, it automatically opened speculations and accusations from Sinclair himself (and many in the public) that these individuals were probably “paid off” by David Axelrod and the Obama campaign. To prove this point, Sinclair has posted multiple copies of the checks, letters and other documentation with which he claims to demonstrate the contention that he actually passed the test, but was later betrayed by the site with the publishing of the incorrect analysis of his results. Nonetheless, Larry Sinclair continued his quest to expose Obama for what he describes as “his lies and drug addiction”, and continuously attempted to get his allegations heard.
Ever since Sinclair came out with the story, he alleges that his life has been threatened and that his person has been defamed throughout the internet by Obama’s supporters. For this exact reason, Sinclair has brought suit against a couple of these “bloggers” for defamation and threat of violence, both of which he claims are directly linked to the Barack Obama campaign. In relation to this suit, and very recently, (African American) Federal District Judge Henry Kennedy (view BIO HERE) decided to go forward with said case and has allowed discovery of it’s allegations to begin in their entirety, setting up one of the biggest scandals that has ever befallen a Presidential candidate, at least in recent political history. To further complicate the controversy, Sinclair has also sent an affidavit to the Chicago Police discussing the ‘Donald Young connection’ and is aggressively urging a further investigation into his death and connection to the Obama camp.
This additional and strange leg of the story claims that a recently murdered (gay) Choir Master of TRINITY UNITED CHURCH, by the name of Donald Young, contacted Sinclair multiple times about this whole issue of Obama’s relationship with Sinclair (apparently under the instructions of the Obama campaign), even admitting to having homosexual relations with Obama himself. Here is the copy of Sinclair’s affidavit to the Chicago Police: CLICK HERE The subsequent death of this gay man (who belonged to Obama’s church) is quite mysterious and it has not reached the Mainstream National news. Nonetheless, you can still read the following story from CBS, in which they simply mention this very violent and nebulous death in Chicago: CLICK HERE All of this disturbing information will probably have to come out with greater detail during the mentioned Sinclair court case, since it is a crucial aspect of Sinclair’s claim that the Obama campaign has launched a concerted effort to defame and threaten his life.
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Now, all of this controversy has reached the important primary “State” of Puerto Rico, were the show “Super Xclusivo: La Comay”, the highest rated and most popular show on the island (for the past decade), dedicated an entire hour to the discussion of this story and to the interview of Larry Sinclair himself (you can watch a custom recording of yesterday evening’s airing of “La Comay” by clicking HERE). The program’s style and it’s “classification” is quite difficult to explain to the majority of Americans, since this Country doesn’t have an equivalent. For the sake of definition, let’s just describe it as a “gossip, news, commentary, investigative-reporting, and comedy-variety show.” As an example of their influence and importance within local culture (and to dismiss the speculation that this program may be “inconsequential”), the program’s impact is so dramatic that every Gubernatorial (and legislative) candidate in recent Puertorican history has gone ‘live’ on said show to be interviewed by both hosts. A few years back, a highly controversial but popular ex Governor (Pedro Rosello) decided to run again for the Governorship of the Island, but refused to go on said show (Super Xclusivo) saying that he “didn’t speak to dolls”. Because of this, his popularity went down precipitously (also helped by getting ‘ripped’ on a daily basis by the show itself) and he lost the Governorship by a wide margin. The man who actually dedicated most of his time to being interviewed by the program’s hosts, and who took the show seriously (Anibal Acevedo Vila) ended up winning the election (and thus invited both ‘characters’ to the Governor mansion to celebrate his victory). His candid participation made him appear attuned with “the common people”, and also gave him wide exposure, since this program is turned on in almost every Puertorican house at 6:00 PM.
Therefore, this exposure to Sinclair’s story is HUGE in Puerto Rico, since it is not only getting ventilated by the most popular show on the island, but it is also getting attention by it’s parent company Televicentro (the highest rated channel on the island), which happens to be the only remaining Puerto Rico owned Media and News source on the Island. Interestingly enough, this controversy is not only damaging to Obama because of the drug-use aspect (smoking marijuana in Puerto Rico could easily label you a ‘junky’ by most), but an even more dramatically damaging aspect of the story is the whole “homosexual” dynamic of the story. Puerto Rico, after all, is a highly socially-conservative Nation, and the idea of having a “gay” President (even a small town mayor) is disturbing enough to ostracize Obama from almost every serious political discourse (and public support). It is well known among most Puertoricans (even the most Liberals) that even slight rumors about the supposed sexual “flimsiness” of a particular candidate is enough to destroy their political hopes in PR politics (case in point: Bhatia).
For Barack Obama, this couldn’t have come at a worse time since he was expecting to at least survive the Island’s primary election with a few proportional delegates. But now, with this story, and with his only main supporter in the Island’s political elite (the highly unpopular Governor of Puerto Rico) now facing Federal criminal charges, this controversy will assure a clear loss among the few primary participants that will provide with 55 delegates to the Democratic victor (the amount of voters will be small in proportion to it’s population since there is no political tradition in PR of participating in U.S. primaries).
The question about all of this remains: Will this have a trickle down effect into the United States? Unlike American journalists, the Puertorican press WILL ask Obama about this controversy if he ever decides to show himself on the Island, whenever it’s primaries become inevitable. Will the Mainstream Media pick up the fact that the whole Sinclair story is now MAINSTREAM in Puerto Rico, or will they decide to ignore it? It is clear that even if reporters in the United States decide to air a criticism of Puerto Rico’s “negligence” or “audacity” in publishing this story, Sinclair will automatically become the main theme and will thus inevitably spread throughout the Country.
Day by day, this story approaches critical mass, and we can slowly start getting ready to prepare for the diverse names that may begin to be utilized to describe it; GAY GATE, CRACK GATE, SINCLAIR GATE, LIMO GATE, et al. Irrespective of the veracity or integrity of this story, it is nonetheless true that these allegations will eventually come to fruition among the corporate press (maybe closer to November), and it is now only left to the Mainstream Media and/or the Obama campaign to deflect it as best they can and see if they can survive it. Apparently, Donald Young and Larry Sinclair have just become household names in Puerto Rico, it will be only a matter of time until they become part of the American lingo as well.
Not only is his denouncement "to little to late" it comes off as staged...Think about it..He lost big time in PA in the "God fearing gun clinging middle class" votes now with Iniana,NC., coming up...it's just alittle to convienant for me. I would also like to make another point...Wright gave Louis Farrakhan a life time achievment award, Obama certainly had to know this, Now if Obama were not smart enough to figure out Wright's plateform and position..Is he really smart enough to be the President of this our United States?...SORRY IT DOESN'T WASH!!
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suzanne
11:48AM Apr 30th 2008
It was a massive implosion, we all knew about the "church" and Obamas "relationship" with the Rev Wright the Minister Of Hate, but we got to see the new, and improved change, and on live TV this time. There is no "sound bite" we saw it all, in all it's glory....
more damage control please...... Axelrod... can we get an endorsement today.....?... anybody??
Implosion !!!
Suzanne
Clinton 08'
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leelea
12:13PM Apr 30th 2008
In regards to the Larry Sinclair thing. Larry Sinclair is lying, that why no news program not even Fox News will pick up this story. The Washing Post paid to have Larry take a polygraph test and he failed it. Twice. So no credible proof, so stop spreading proganda.
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larkdog
11:53AM Apr 30th 2008
to leelea, yes we can forgive Wright and Obama. But we don't want them in control of our executive branch. If what Wright has said about the "African church" is true, then indeed Obama and all of the other parishoners heard this type of speech many times. Obama is just another politician honey, I'm sorry.
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amy
12:08PM Apr 30th 2008
Obama typical politician-Empty speeches are now over.
The intelligent Democrats will side with Hillary as being the most qualified and electable as it should have been from the start.
Enough! The democratic party left liberal Dean-Pelosi-Kennedy-Reid and lets not forget Mr. Soros dictate who should be the nominee.
If Hillary does not get the nomination-my vote and at least 40% of hillary supporters will vote for MCCAIN.
If thats what the DNC would like to do is take that chance- Then the DNC does not have Americans in their best interest only to suit the personal power struggle within the party.
Most intelligent Americans know exactly what is going on. Left wing of the DNC wants the power.
And note: Most of us who say we will vote for MCCain will. We will not unite for Obama. Never! DNC only kidding themselves.
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beachdog
12:05PM Apr 30th 2008
IN THINKING ABOUT IT ONLY TWO WAYS-IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.
1) OBAMA NEVER HEARD THE COMMENTS BEFORE OR KNEW OF WRIGHT'S BIZARRE RANTS-----SO HOW DID HE NOT KNOW IN 20 YEARS--THATS POOR JUDGEMENT AND NOT VERY OBSERVENT AND WE ALL KNOW CHURCH FOLK TALK ABOUT CERTAIN SERMONS AT EVERY DEMONINATION----SO OBAMA SURE IS'NT NOT VERY OBSERVANT IF HE MISSED ALL THIS
2) OBAMA HAS ONLY DISOWNED WRIGHT WHEN WRIGHT CALLED HIM TYPICAL POLITICIAN AND OBAMA NOTICED POLLS ----SO THERE GOES OBAMA'S WHOLE STANCE THAT HE IS DIFFERENT POLITICIAN
FOR ALL THAT SAY ALL THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEING MISSED WELL I HEARD SOMEONE SAY YESTERDAY IF PERHAPS THOSE OF YOU THAT VOTED FOR BUSH 2X HAD KNOWN MORE ABOUT HIS JUDGEMENTS AND CHARACHTER THAN WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN HOW HE WOULD HAVE REACTED TO 9/11 AND GOING TO WAR WITH IRAQ. THE PRESIDENCY IS ABOUT CHARACTER AND JUDGEMENTS---THE ONLY REASON OBAMA'S OTHER BUDDY AYERS THE DOMESTIC TERRORIST BOMBER IS NOT IN JAIL IS BECAUSE THE FBI SCREWED UP ON SOMETHING IN THE ARREST PROCESS HE GOT OFF IN LOOP HOLE SO WHY DOES OBAMA HAVE SUCH LEFTIST BUDDIES--WRIGHT, AYERS, FARRHAKAN
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Dean
12:21PM Apr 30th 2008
to leelea: Not to make a racial issue of this, but to align with the thinking that Obama is not to blame for something someone else did ,whites of today are blamed for what whites did to blacks years ago..SOMETHING SOMEONE ELSE DID..yet we are expected not look at this man more closely for what someone who was is mentor, spiritual leader and friend of 20yrs did? DOUBLE STANDARD..moving on..On the issue of Oprah Winfrey, now I am believer in the Scripture of the Bible, this women (Oprah Winfrey) is leading millions down the path straight to hell with this bypassing the cross crap. She believes and is convincing millions of others that you can buy your way into heaven by doing good deeds..that you don't need Jesus to get to heaven, IS THIS A WOMEN YOU REALLY WANT TO BE LISTENING TO?
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Francisco
12:49PM Apr 30th 2008
These two scammers are probably in cahoots...the "Rev" is already living high off the hog, and his "flock" keeps him going. What a bunch of crap this whole fiasco is. Hillary is bad enough, but Obama is totally unacceptable.
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monap49
12:27PM Apr 30th 2008
"The chickens have come home to roost". Obama is either a bald-faced liar - he knew all along what a racist, hateful bigot this pastor is or he is dumb as a rock and didn't understand any of the sermons. Either way who needs this in the White House. We need someone who will LISTEN and UNDERSTAND the problems this nation faces and will then ACT on them - not wait until the media forces the issue. Rev. Wright is, in a strange way a patriot - he has saved this nation from the likes of Barack Obama.
Clinton is the only hope of the Democratic Party unless we want 4 years of John McCain - WAKE UP Democrats - Obama will pull down the WHOLE party!
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Sharon Boyce
12:26PM Apr 30th 2008
Obama is a liar. You cannot be around someone for twenty years and not believe what they are saying or doing. Wright is anti-American and so is Obama!!!!
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BJ
12:29PM Apr 30th 2008
Pat 11:45 AM. Shame on you for believing the hate-filled smear tactics in this piece. Shame on you for not recognizing it as such.
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O
12:31PM Apr 30th 2008
At least he had the courage to turn his back on a religious fanatic. How many of our elected leaders have been willing to distance themselves from kooky fundamentalists like Pat Robinson, et.al? Remember when it was considered provincial and backward to even ask questions about a candidate's religion because we cherished the seperation of church and state? Jimmy Carter was ridiculed for vocalizing his religious beliefs as a "born again." The founders must be spinning in their graves.
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Sara
12:32PM Apr 30th 2008
Oh Please! Many of us are tired of the media and this "Damage Control Unit working for Obama." He walked around with a firecracker in his pocket for twenty years. Didn't he know that sooner or later it would explode? He is obviously covert, and truly "Believed he could play backdoor politics with the American people and get away with it."