Update: 9 pm: Just got this statement, via email. It seems to clarify what Chris was talking about.
Joint Statement from the Clinton and Obama Press Offices
"We are working together to make sure the fall campaign and the convention are a success. At the Democratic Convention, we will ensure that the voices of everyone who participated in this historic process are respected and our party will be fully unified heading into the November election."
Update: I think my colleague Chris Weber may have been "burying the lede" earlier when he presented video from Hillary Clinton's August 1st fundraiser. Halfway through the video, someone shouts, "Vice President," and Hillary pauses, and says, "Well, we're trying to work that out with the Obama campaign...," then continues her answer as though she was talking about the floor vote all along.
It looked to me like a moment of candor, and her reply jibes perfectly with what I've been told.
Here's some additional video from that event, apparently shot by a nearsighted slasher-flick villain, in which she fields a direct question about the VP slot. Notice the consistency with my analysis.
And another bit on VP, again almost word for word what my sources told me:
Get the new PD toolbar!8/05/2008 - All of the recent buzz on Barack Obama's search for a VP has centered around Tim Kaine, with a short-shortlist rounded out by Evan Bayh and Joe Biden. Hillary Clinton's candidacy has been all but left for dead.
A fair amount of that dismissal of the "Dream Ticket" is the result of an email sent by the proprietors of VoteBoth.com, in which they announced they were shutting down the site:
Because it seems that Senator Obama has made his decision to offer the slot on the ticket to another candidate, we believe that continuing to ask him to pick Hillary is no longer helpful to our party's chances of winning in November.
I say, "Not so fast!" A lot of people assume that these guys, who worked for Clinton for years, are acting on some kind of inside information, that Hillary has come to them and said, "Stick a fork in me, guys. I'm done."
I think they might have inside information, but it isn't what you think. More on that later.
On ABC's This Week, David Gergen and Donna Brazile had an exchange that closely mirrored my conversations with well-placed insiders in both campaigns some weeks ago. Here's the video:
If Gergen's argument sounds familiar, it's because I've been making it for months. Not only do I think Hillary could attack McCain in ways that Barack Obama can't, I also see her as filling a similar role in Obama's administration, an enforcer to Barack's "good cop." In late June and early July, I spoke with very well-placed sources with both the Clinton and Obama campaigns, and both indicated that Hillary was a very strong candidate, in a category by herself, and both indicated similar conditions that would be needed to make the pick more likely.
The key component there was a "cooling off" period from the contentious primary. Coupled with the Clinton campaign's refrain that the VP pick is 100% up to Obama, and the fact that strong lobbying for the job by Clinton insiders has stopped, the message is that Barack Obama cannot be seen as having his hand forced in the selection of Hillary as VP. This only makes sense, as a big concern among Obama supporters has been that a Vice President Clinton would usurp or undercut President Obama, and make him seem like a weaker candidate from an electoral standpoint.
That brings me back to the VoteBoth guys. The Clinton campaign might very well have reached out to suggest that they pack it in, but only as a way to quietly relieve another bit of pressure from the Dream Ticket pick. With their petition ended, with PUMA increasingly marginalized, and with everyone convinced that the pairing is a dead issue, the path is now clear for Obama to make the pick.
What makes this even more brilliant is that no-one will see it coming (except me, and now, you). The press and the bounce for this will be huge. No visit to a sausage house is going to blunt the force of that announcement.
In case you missed the hundred or so articles I've written making the case for Hillary as VP, here's the start of a pretty good summation I did awhile back. The short version: It's the smart thing to do, and Barack and Hillary are very smart.
Should Barack Obama pick Hillary Clinton to be his vice-president? Never has such an obvious answer been so hotly debated. The answer really only depends on one factor: How much does Barack Obama want to win by in November?
There is very compelling evidence to suggest that Barack Obama would wipe the floor with John McCain if he named my dog his VP. Even at this early stage in the just-begun general election, Obama leads McCain nationally by a significant margin, and outpolls McCain on most key issues. Once the polls reflect Obama's shift to campaigning against McCain, I expect Obama's leads to increase. Additionally, a new poll shows only 17% of Clinton supporters threatening to jump, down from a 45% high
Even so, these are Democrats, so with the stakes so high, nothing should be left to chance. An Obama/Clinton ticket has much to recommend it, most of all a guaranteed victory in November.
Yea , the dream team would consist of Hillary for president , Bill for vice president ....NOBAMA..lol
Hillary said you can Knock me down , but I will Always get right back up , ......so her bones start shaking , her eyes a coming too , see's straight ahead and say's thank you PUMA 'S , I owe's you gratitude ....Http://www.texasdarlin.wordpress.com
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FOXYLYNX
7:35PM Aug 6th 2008
DONT' YOU EVER GET TIRED OF THESE STUPID POSTS YOU PUT OUT, THEY ALL SEEM THE SAME. I WOULDN'T VOTE FOR THAT SCAM ARTIST, OBAMA, EVEN IF HE PUT HILLARY ON THE TICKET. I CAN'T STAND HIM. SHE IS PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL AND NOT TO BE USED TO GARNER OUT VOTES, WILL NOT HAPPEN....SIGNED A "TYPICAL WHITE WOMAN"
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RANDY
7:36PM Aug 6th 2008
>---------- Forwarded Message ---------- >Hello everyone, >As you know I am not a very political person. I just wanted to pass along >that Senator Obama came to Bagram Afghanistan for about an hour on his >visit to >'The War Zone'. I wanted to share with you what happened. >He got off the plane and got into a bullet proof vehicle, got to the area >to >meet with the Major General (2 Star) who is the commander here at Bagram. > >As the Soldiers where lined up to shake his hand he blew them off and >didn't >say a word as he went into the conference room to meet the General. As he >finished, the vehicles took him to the Clam Shell (pretty much a big top >tent >that military personnel can play basketball or work out in with weights) >so he >could take his publicity pictures playing basketball. He again shunned the >opportunity to talk to Soldiers to thank them for their service. > >So really he was just here to make a showing for the American's back home >that he is their candidate for President. I think that if you are going to >make >an effort to come all the way over here you would thank those that are >providing the freedom that they are providing for you. > >I swear we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball Players or the Dallas >Cowboy Cheer leaders than from one of the Senators, who wants to be the >President of the United States. I just don't understand how anyone would >want him to >be our Commander-and-Chief. It was almost that he was scared to be around >those that provide the freedom for him and our great country. > >If this is blunt and to the point I am sorry but I wanted you all to know >what kind of caliber of person he really is. What you see in the news is >all fake. > >In service, >CPT Jeffrey S. Porter >Battle Captain >TF Wasatch >America n Soldier
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RIChris
7:37PM Aug 6th 2008
So, Barack & Michele Obama AND Hillary & Bill Clinton. As a Republican, the first thing that comes to mind is 'Field Day!'
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bonbon
7:50PM Aug 6th 2008
if The Big ZERO offers Hillary the VP spot, it would only be to prevent her from attempting to become the Presidential nominee. and for no other reason
VOTE COUNTRY NOT PARTY
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whiteclouds
7:53PM Aug 6th 2008
Oh, please spare us your bullshit, T.C......Even HILLARYS most ardent supportors will not vote for a ticket with that asshole on it. Is oidiot getting worried as he sees the polls slipping away ? Most people have moved on and away from the slime ball democratic party. They are going to reap what they have sewn, They are the party of corruption that should be completely purged for what they have done to both of the Clintons. Nice try, no cigar....I wonder how many democrats have left the party and re-registered as indys or republicans. I bet the number is staggering.
Errrrrrr ummmmmmmmm . . . did you pass civics in high school?
Bill CAN'T be in line for the presidency! Dems da rules. Two terms. No more. Ahnoldt has a better shot at the oval office than Bill. Now there is a bright side to this . . . neither can Bush ever get close to the Oval Office again.
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EGObaMANIAC
8:00PM Aug 6th 2008
CDC ALERT!!! There is a hideous epidemic of a new disease called IRRITABLE OBAMA SYNDROME caused by watching Hillary stump for the Obama Boy.
Symptoms include gas, flatulence, diarrhea, uncontrolled vomiting, impotence, erectile dysfunction, loss of memory and an uncontrolled desire to vote Republican.
There is no cure except to not watch, don't listen and by all means..DO NOT CONTRIBUTE to the Obama Boy campaign or the DNC.
Having just returned my latest Obama fund-raising letter...with a note. Not in this Lifetime and zero contribution......
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EGObaMANIAC
8:10PM Aug 6th 2008
"There is very compelling evidence to suggest that Barack Obama would wipe the floor with John McCain if he named my dog his VP."
TC...you really need to see someone about your delusions.
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tfitz1017
8:03PM Aug 6th 2008
Bob, Randy, Bonbon, Foxylynx, sounds like a singing group with a toy tie-in. "Buuurpz" or something. Who wants to be the slutty one?! No, no one would believe that, Bonbon. Bob? Try on this dress, wouldja?
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Bob
8:10PM Aug 6th 2008
What? Obama said he was in Walter reed three weeks ago , but NO-ONE Knew about it ? " Fake Fainting " falling to the Ground, bump head on countertop , hit floor , both legs a jerking , and health care went up = TYPICAL OBAMA SUPPORTER
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Tommy Christopher
8:21PM Aug 6th 2008
Whiteclouds, nice language. Not that I object, but you seem a little too worked up. I thought PUMAs took pride in not slinging profanity.
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D. L. GRAHAM
8:37PM Aug 6th 2008
PARIS WEST POINT OF VIEW
We all know what the two (PN’s) Presumptive Nominee of the Military Industrial Complex East Coast (NYC) New York City, and (D.C.) Washington, D. C. the bought and paid for by the (NYSE ) New York Stock Exchange & K-Street, paid lobbyist have to say, but wouldn’t it be nice to have a SECOND, opinion?
There is no difference between the two parties they are only two factions of the same party the Military Industrial Complex, Imperial Presidential Government that now has a choke hold on the United States.
So, why not a Second voice, and then they can ask is that all you have. Why not have the same guys who wrote the Paris Hilton reply, do it again, and again, and again, but not only on the Energy Problem, but on Iraq, Afghanistan, (NAFA), (FISA), and Immigration, by asking for input from the public with different ideas?
Why, couldn’t Paris Hilton be the face of reason the Legally Blonde Stinging Bee of the West Coast? Why is it that only (NYC) and (DC) have a lock on how things are to be done? What could it hurt to more Paris Hilton Campaign Commercials but with stinging comments in reply to both of the (PN’s)? Why not let Paris Hilton make them eat their words, “Is Hilton all you got?” Well boys at least I’m HOT and you’re both not.
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jan
8:59PM Aug 6th 2008
Hillary has turned out to be a first-class jerk. The ONLY thing she cares about is her poor little overlooked self. Imagine - if she had thrown her wholehearted support behind Obama, the actual winner of the primary, the Dems would be unbeatable. She would also show herself to be a classy, wise and respected politician, instead of a creep. If I didn't know any better, I'd say whe was out to destroy the country - for that's the only ending possible if she sticks to this insanity.
Her followers have apparently lost all sanity, not to mention integrity. Incredible childishness. And people criticize OBAMA for the 'Messiah' thing? He has actually earned international admiration. She just wants POWER.
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fagayo53
9:04PM Aug 6th 2008
clinton 4 mccain
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Jo in SoCal
9:03PM Aug 6th 2008
Nice try Tommy. If you listen to the entire elongated piece on YouTube, her comments were in regard to what her strategy is gonna be to have her delegates heard at the convention and how she's working that out with the Obama campaign NOT how she's working out the details of becoming the vice president with the Obama campaign. I gotta give it to you on tenacity though. You really don't want to get that Ron Paul tattoo, do you?
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Liz
9:38PM Aug 6th 2008
.Senator Obama, is not doing all that well in the polls. He can't find anyone to run with him. Do you really believe that Senator Clinton, who is far superior to him, will give up her standing with the American People to save Sen. Obama???? Get real, not going to happen!! It is not Sen. Obama who says NO DEAL, it's Senator Clinton who says NO DEAL, NO OBAMA
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angenorg
9:25PM Aug 6th 2008
JAN: Why are you getting angier and angrier all the time? It seems that you can't take the heat like your beloved. If you can't, get out of the flame, "sweetie".
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Tommy Christopher
9:49PM Aug 6th 2008
Jo, it seemed to me like she was reacting to the VP thing, then caught herself and went on to talk about the roll call thingy. Don't try to crush my spirit!