Did McCain Make Up the 'Cross in the Dirt'?

This actually happens all the time all over the world in places where Christianity is looked down upon. It is an ancient Christian custom. IT used to be that one person would draw an arc in the sand or dirt with his foot and the other would complete the picture of a fish with another arc. That evolved into drawing the cross.

Just because someone else wrote about, that does not mean it didn't also happen to McCain. Many prisoners of war recount this same thing.

Often times, the opposing guards will draw this symbol as a way to gain the confidence of the detainee/prisoner.

It happens *all* the time!

So much for your story that McCain had to be lying!

you're forgetting mccain's also a huge Solzhenitsyn fan and wrote an article about him for the nysun.

David,

As much as you hate McCain, can't you give the man some respect...he was willing to die for our country, was beaten, and tortured. Why you can't you guys lay off and start talking about real lies from Obama like the way he promised to accept public financing in 2007 (but now has rejected it), or the way he supported all the Iraq war funding bills before he ran for prez.

If this really didn't happen McCain should be ashamed. It's one thing to exagerrate a story to make you seem more heroic i.e. the Clinton-Bosnia flap. but to make a story up to play on people religious beliefs is despicable. I would lose all respect for him if indeed this story really did not take place.

Why would the replublicans reverse their past performance and lie to us? After all they are, as we all know, nonest and trustworthy.

Sue,

I give him a whole lot of respect for his service. The question is whether or not the cross story is true. Hillary Clinton was taken to task for her Bosnia recollections. I think McCain should face similar standards. If this story isn't true, then we should hear from the other POW's who were there with him.

If the story isn't true, and is being manufactured for political purposes, that speaks against McCain's character.

Oh come on---give us a break!! I believe every word John McCain said--he doesn't have to think--pause--before he speaks--he is quick as a wink on all questions. No rehearsal needed.

hahaha the other POWs HATE HIM!! his nickname was 'songbird mccain'. dave, that's the LAST thing they're gonna wanna do, unless they can control who/what veerrry tightly ...

If anyone believes the candidates didn't know what was going to be asked, then you believe, then you believe that Santa Claus comes down the chimney.

To David you should be ashamed of yourself.

McCain talked about how the guard right after he returned from Vietnam.


This is what McCain said after he was released from prison.


"I had the singular misfortune to get caught communicating four times in the month of May of 1969. They had a punishment room right across the courtyard from my cell, and I ended up spending a lot of time over there.

It was also in May, 1969, that they wanted me to write—as I remember—a letter to U. S. pilots who were flying over North Vietnam asking them not to do it. I was being forced to stand up continuously—sometimes they'd make you stand up or sit on a stool for a long period of time. I'd stood up for a couple of days, with a respite only because one of the guards — the only real human being that I ever met over there — let me lie down for a couple of hours while he was on watch the middle of one night."


McCain was known by the prison guards because he was the chaplain for his comrades.


McCain was held in solitary confinement in his own cell.



To David you do know McCain is disabled from the torture he recieved. To this day he can't raise his arms to comb his hair because his arms were repeatedly snapped behind his back with rope and hung from the ceiling.


To David: McCain after three years could have left after having his teeth knocked out so liberal bloggers could make fun of his smile decades later , skin permanently damaged from the sun and arms disabled. McCain still refused to leave his comrades behind.


While injured McCain saved the life of a comrade who was wounded.


You want to talk about character lies David.

Obama copied Duval Patrick word for word in extensive passages twice without crediting him.

Obama lied about his parents meeting in selma. Obama was four at the time. Obama said this in the south to win votes during the primary.

Obama lied about his uncle liberating auschwitz. He also told this story in 2002.



McCain by the way never talks about how his 19 year old son just returned from a tour in Iraq. Another son will be graduating from the navy academy.


Liberal blogger dave is spitting and smearing McCain's service with lies.

David Knowless, you are an asshole to the magnitude. Why dont you address all the real lies of your OREOBAMA......yOUR PRECIOUS OLIAR HAS LIED OVER AND OVER. How about his "vote" on the Iraq war when he wasnt even in the senate? Or how about " Selma got me born " ? Of his abortion vote ? How many real lies has oliar told ? Why would you not believe McCains story, you stupid ass .......f.u.

David,

Hillary's story was disproved b/c it was captured on tape. I don't see how McCain's story is gonna be shot down b/c we are talking about something he witnessed most likely by himself. Maybe someone else saw it, or he told another POW....but those others may no longer be alive or unwilling to talk about it. So, as of now, there is no supporting hard facts to disprove it, other than speculation. So, for now, it's pure speculation and blog trash talking. If this story is disproven, I will send you a kiss.

I believe this to be true. He has a strong faith and he counted on it back then I am sure. And if by chance someone who served with him say it isn't true-how well do we know the credibilty of that person? Who knows? Maybe they might even want Obummer to win so they will lie...
I really think some respect is due here-he did put his life out there for this country.

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Pelosi Threatens Senator For Criticizing Obama

Thu, 08/14/2008 - 13:48 — Judicial Watch Blog

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has warned a four-term Connecticut senator that he could lose a powerful committee chairmanship for criticizing Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, whom she calls a great leader for the future.

Upset that Joe Lieberman, the longtime Democrat turned independent, is campaigning for Republican John McCain rather than her beloved Obama, Madam Speaker has publicly blasted the traitor for, among other things, making “totally irresponsible” remarks about the Illinois senator.

The veteran San Francisco congresswoman also threatened that Lieberman’s remarks may cost him his position as chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

Incidentally, Pelosi is also very angry at some of Hillary Clinton’s supporters for being “less than gracious” toward Obama. No word yet on what their punishment will be.

NANCY PELOSI, Soro's little pawn, HAS GOT TO GO!!!!!!

the guard was probably trying to convert mccain to catholicism so that he wouldnt die a protestant heretic and burn in hell forever with martin luther.

You would think that all of you reporting the news would find something worthy to write about, I guess this is your way of getting even for all or those idiots that still think Obama is a Muslim. This was a very good forum, and both candidates deserve better than the reporting from all of you that are suppose to keep us informed rather than chasing a new conspiracy…do some real reporting

Clarissa-did you feel the same way about KERRY putting HIS life on the line for this country?

Very low blow, even for David Knowles. I'm sure Senator McCain has more stories that he didn't write in his book simply because they are too painful to think about. Lots of war veterans don't ever talk about their experiences in combat, especially WWII vets. It's one thing to idolize war in movies, etc. it is completely different when you are literally in the middle of one. Everything you thought war was goes out the window once the first bullet starts flying.

One of your readers referred to John McCain as having "character". From the moment I heard how he treated his first wife by leaving her because she had gained weight (due to a disfiguring accident), I've had nothing but disdain for the man.

Character? John McCain doesn't know the meaning of the word.

Mad Dog-McCain doesn't seem to have a problem talking about his supposed experiences NOW, while at the same time, lying to fellow veterans like he did in a town hall meeting. He also lied to his first wife, cheating on her while recovering from her horrendous car accident. His divorce wasn't even final when he got his marriage license for his NEXT marriage to the elite beer heiress.