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David KnowlesPlaying Politics with Economic Fire
What we've witnessed over the course of the last week is something of a perfect storm. With the financial sector teetering on the brink, and election year politics in full swing, reason, foresight, and an orderly distribution of life preservers, have been sacrificed for tantrums of the here and now. Who is to blame for the economic mess we are only starting to glimpse? Everyone. You, me, Wall Street, the Bush Administration, Congress, television pundits, the whole lot of us. A pox on all of our houses!
Americans have long been living on credit. Not just the poor, who often didn't qualify in the first place, but all Americans. As our economy shifted away from manufacturing to a service-centric model, we should have raised a red flag. When we all started playing the stock market back in the 1970's, by tying our retirement savings to Wall Street performance, we didn't blink. When we grew to expect double-digit growth on the value of our homes every single year, we convinced ourselves we'd settled into a new paradigm. In a way, our obsession with the housing and stock markets was itself a big smokescreen for the fact that Americans no longer make things.
Politicians on the left and the right were only too happy to feed the illusion that said, because the Titanic hasn't yet hit an iceberg, it will not hit one anytime soon. Well, we've hit it. And, surprise, there aren't enough lifeboats. To make matters far, far worse, this crisis comes in an election year. Every one of the members of the House of Representatives, and many in the Senate is up for re-election, so forget about them doing what's right for the country, it's political expediency time.
President Bush pulled another of his "with-us-or-against-us" cards from the deck and gave us a pretty rotten plan with zero oversight. Why? Because he says so. He's the decider, remember?
The presidential candidates are both in a no-win situation. Yes, Bush is a lame duck who can't lift his bill from the ground, but McCain and Obama are still trapped inside the shell. Neither man will come away as a "winner" in this. And God help him if he does, because this government is not going to be an easy one to manage for the next president.
What's truly frustrating is that none of our so-called leaders is doing a convincing job explaining this well to the American people -- who find it easier to rally behind Rush Limbaugh, Lou Dobbs, and Glenn Beck's combined outrage, than parse the implications of a spike in the interbank loan rate. NPR's "Marketplace Money" host Ky Risdall was a guest on CNN yesterday, and tried to shake the country out of its big-board trance.
"How many companies are traded on the DOW?" he asked. "Thirty."
Compare that to the millions of U.S. companies that face the prospect of not being able to grow because of new lending drought, and you can see that we're all guilty of being taken yet again. We're worrying over GE's fate when the future of every LLC in America is growing more precarious with each passing minute. Risdall spelled out the staggering, though little acknowledged, consequence of the delay in the bailout: Liquidity is about to screech to a halt. For business, this means hiring freezes, killing of new initiatives, and a halt to innovation. A credit desert also means a change in the American lifestyle as we have come to know it. No more car loans, college loans, home loans. Your credit limit is about to go down, and just in time for Christmas! Think your bank's ATM fees are obscene now? Just wait.
Of course, fiscal conservatives are standing and applauding. For them, the correction must lead us in the direction of pure, free-market capitalism, and they reject anything else as socialism. David Brooks had an important column yesterday, in which he dissected the motives behind those ideologues in his own party who have had fun playing spoiler:
And let us recognize above all the 228 who voted no -- the authors of this revolt of the nihilists. They showed the world how much they detest their own leaders and the collected expertise of the Treasury and Fed. They did the momentarily popular thing, and if the country slides into a deep recession, they will have the time and leisure to watch public opinion shift against them.
Indeed, nothing like a 25% unemployment rate to shift public opinion.
Like talk radio and the cable rage networks, the blogosphere has also been lit up with populist/partisan anger. The libertarians and their friends on the right focus on personal and corporate responsibility, and the need for government to stay out the people's lives. The left disowns responsibility and blames decades of deregulation as the root of the problem. And while there is certainly intellectual merit to both positions, the fact remains that amid the squabbling, credit just dried up.
Maybe Congress, the president, and the country will get their act together tomorrow. Then again, maybe they won't. Anybody want to bet?
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Perfect Lucie
10:04AM Oct 1st 2008
This FANTASTIC, LETS DO IT BABY
Impeach, expel Barack Obama
http://www.obamaimpeachment.org/impeachobamapetition.html
Why investigate Senator Obama?
Barack Obama was in the Illinois Senate for 8 years and was
elected to the US Senate from Illinois in 2004. Senator Obama
has been rushed to the forefront of the Democrat Party
without being vetted for his integrity and credentials to
be the Democrat Party's candidate for president. Little was
known about the senator from Illinois until the past year.
However, the investigations of the Federal Government,
indictments by Patrick Fitzgerald, testimony during the
Tony Rezko trial and research by those without ties to
the Democrat Party, have unearthed volumes of incriminating
evidence about Senator Obama that are of grave concern. The
grass roots effort behind this website and petition has
evolved out of the concern of millions of caring citizens.
So, what can you as an average caring citizen do:
If you do not know the real Obama, spend some time to
get the facts. The main Stream Media has done a poor job
of covering Senator Obama. Read the petition and ask questions.
You may have to do a lot of digging. The Obama Campaign has
spent millions to distort and hide information on the internet.
Add your name to our online petition. Although, as many
claim, online petitions are not as powerful as traditional
pen on paper petitions, each name added will empower our
efforts to be heard.
Print out our petition or draft your own letter and forward
it to your senators and representatives. This is still one
of the most powerful forces to get their attention. If
enough of us do so, they cannot ignore us.
http://www.obamaimpeachment.org/impeachobamapetition.html
A PETITION
for
The Impeachment of Senator Barack Obama
TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES
Whereas: Senator Barack Obama is an admitted illegal drug user and
is believed to have used illegal drugs as recently as November 1999
or more recently. Mr. Obama has maintained contact with other
admitted illegal drug users.
Whereas: Senator Barack Obama has maintained regular contact
with known criminals such as Antoin (Tony) Rezko and other
criminal elements in Chicago and Illinois. Mr. Obama has
conducted business with these criminals and received campaign
donations from them. Mr. Obama was compelled to return an estimated $250,000 in
donations related to Tony Rezko.
Whereas: Senator Barack Obama has consistently lied about his
contact with convicted criminal Tony Rezko. The Tony Rezko
corruption trial revealed that FBI mole John Thomas helped investigators
"build a record of repeat visits to the old offices of Rezko and former
business partner Daniel Mahru's Rezmar Corp., at 853 N. Elston, by
Blagojevich and Obama during 2004 and 2005," according to the February
10, 2008 Chicago Sun-Times.
Whereas: Senator Barack Obama has engaged in unscrupulous business
practices, in particular with Mr. Robert Blackwell. Mr. Obama
received an $ 8,000 per month "legal retainer" from Mr. Blackwell
for a total of $112,000 and reported the income through his law firm
in a manner not unlike money laundering. Obama, along with Obama
campaign manager Dan Shomon, procured $ 320,000 in state grants
for Blackwell's company Killerspin. Blackwell companies contributed
over $ 32,000 to the Obama campaign in 2007.
Whereas: Senator Barack Obama used the office of IL Senator to
facilitate the vote rigging in Chicago as chairman of the Illinois Senate
Health and Human Services Committee. Mr. Obama pushed legislation in Senate Bill
1332 to reduce the number of members of the Health Facilities Planning Board
from 15 to 9. Mr. Obama did conspire with Stuart Levine, Tony Rezko and
Rod Blogojevich to rig the committee and was rewarded with campaign
contributions. The new members appointed included 3 doctors who contributed to
Mr. Obama. On April 21, 2004, Stuart Levine explicitly advised Dr. Robert Weinstein,
who is now indicted, of Tony Rezko's role in manipulating the Planning Board's vote.
Whereas: Senator Barack Obama has engaged in lies and deception
about his past. Mr. Obama lied about his contact level with
convicted criminal Tony Rezko, the amounts and sources of
campaign contributions and encounters with the law. A complaint
has been filed with the Bar Association of Illinois alleging
that Mr. Obama did not answer truthfully all questions on the
application to the bar.
Whereas: Senator Barack Obama has invoked the FOIA in Illinois
when it was politically expedient and ignored or violated the
FOIA at other times. In the Illinois Senate proceedings of
Mr. Obama, in Senate Bill 1416, pleads the importance of businesses
bidding on state contracts having improved access to FOIA data. When
later questioned about his records during his term in the IL
Senate, Mr. Obama gave evasive answers or refused to supply records.
Whereas: The First Amendment provides a right for the people "to
petition the government for a redress of grievances." Precedents
exist for impeachment and expulsion of a US Senator. Senator William
Blount was impeached by the House on July 7, 1797 and expelled by
the Senate the next day.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that we, the People, Undersigned,
being citizens of the United States and residents in the Cities and States so
indicated, HEREBY Demand that the Congress of the United States begin
immediate impeachment and/or expulsion proceedings against Senator
Barack Obama.
Addendum: Petition to Impeach Senator Obama
We were urged to add the following information about Senator Obama.
This comes under the topic of lies and deception but also falls under more
serious charges of abuse of power and possible violation of the Logan Act.
Those signing the petition prior to this addendum will be identified.
August 4, 2008
Whereas: As a US Senator, Barack Obama violated the stated intention of
his 2006 Official Government Visa to Africa by publicly propagandizing
for his cousin, Railla Odinga against the US democratic ally of Kenya.
Whereas the stated “mission” of Senator Obama’s Official Visa, according
to the Kenya Office of Public Communications, was to “nurture relations
between the Continent and the United States” he, instead, made public
protest before Kenya citizens to rally against their leadership,
invoking a need for “Change!” and accusing this US allied nation of
“corruption.” In Official Protest of Mr. Obama’s passport abuse and
misconduct, Kenya’s government cited his “extremely disturbing
statements on issues which it is clear, he was very poorly informed, and
on which he chose to lecture the Government and the people of Kenya on
how to manage our country.” Whereas, furthermore, there is no public
record of any sanctions or reprimand by the US Congress of Senator
Obama’s passport violation or campaigning on foreign soil against a US
ally, history has since recorded the broadspread destruction of Kenya’s
economy and large scale loss of life as a result of the violence
instigated by Odinga’s ODM campaign there.
http://www.obamaimpeachment.org/impeachobamapetition.html
Impeach, expel Barack Obama
http://www.obamaimpeachment.org/impeachobamapetition.html
Why investigate Senator Obama?
Barack Obama was in the Illinois Senate for 8 years and was
elected to the US Senate from Illinois in 2004. Senator Obama
has been rushed to the forefront of the Democrat Party
without being vetted for his integrity and credentials to
be the Democrat Party's candidate for president. Little was
known about the senator from Illinois until the past year.
However, the investigations of the Federal Government,
indictments by Patrick Fitzgerald, testimony during the
Tony Rezko trial and research by those without ties to
the Democrat Party, have unearthed volumes of incriminating
evidence about Senator Obama that are of grave concern. The
grass roots effort behind this website and petition has
evolved out of the concern of millions of caring citizens.
So, what can you as an average caring citizen do:
If you do not know the real Obama, spend some time to
get the facts. The main Stream Media has done a poor job
of covering Senator Obama. Read the petition and ask questions.
You may have to do a lot of digging. The Obama Campaign has
spent millions to distort and hide information on the internet.
Add your name to our online petition. Although, as many
claim, online petitions are not as powerful as traditional
pen on paper petitions, each name added will empower our
efforts to be heard.
Print out our petition or draft your own letter and forward
it to your senators and representatives. This is still one
of the most powerful forces to get their attention. If
enough of us do so, they cannot ignore us.
http://www.obamaimpeachment.org/impeachobamapetition.html
A PETITION
for
The Impeachment of Senator Barack Obama
TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES
Whereas: Senator Barack Obama is an admitted illegal drug user and
is believed to have used illegal drugs as recently as November 1999
or more recently. Mr. Obama has maintained contact with other
admitted illegal drug users.
Whereas: Senator Barack Obama has maintained regular contact
with known criminals such as Antoin (Tony) Rezko and other
criminal elements in Chicago and Illinois. Mr. Obama has
conducted business with these criminals and received campaign
donations from them. Mr. Obama was compelled to return an estimated $250,000 in
donations related to Tony Rezko.
Whereas: Senator Barack Obama has consistently lied about his
contact with convicted criminal Tony Rezko. The Tony Rezko
corruption trial revealed that FBI mole John Thomas helped investigators
"build a record of repeat visits to the old offices of Rezko and former
business partner Daniel Mahru's Rezmar Corp., at 853 N. Elston, by
Blagojevich and Obama during 2004 and 2005," according to the February
10, 2008 Chicago Sun-Times.
Whereas: Senator Barack Obama has engaged in unscrupulous business
practices, in particular with Mr. Robert Blackwell. Mr. Obama
received an $ 8,000 per month "legal retainer" from Mr. Blackwell
for a total of $112,000 and reported the income through his law firm
in a manner not unlike money laundering. Obama, along with Obama
campaign manager Dan Shomon, procured $ 320,000 in state grants
for Blackwell's company Killerspin. Blackwell companies contributed
over $ 32,000 to the Obama campaign in 2007.
Whereas: Senator Barack Obama used the office of IL Senator to
facilitate the vote rigging in Chicago as chairman of the Illinois Senate
Health and Human Services Committee. Mr. Obama pushed legislation in Senate Bill
1332 to reduce the number of members of the Health Facilities Planning Board
from 15 to 9. Mr. Obama did conspire with Stuart Levine, Tony Rezko and
Rod Blogojevich to rig the committee and was rewarded with campaign
contributions. The new members appointed included 3 doctors who contributed to
Mr. Obama. On April 21, 2004, Stuart Levine explicitly advised Dr. Robert Weinstein,
who is now indicted, of Tony Rezko's role in manipulating the Planning Board's vote.
Whereas: Senator Barack Obama has engaged in lies and deception
about his past. Mr. Obama lied about his contact level with
convicted criminal Tony Rezko, the amounts and sources of
campaign contributions and encounters with the law. A complaint
has been filed with the Bar Association of Illinois alleging
that Mr. Obama did not answer truthfully all questions on the
application to the bar.
Whereas: Senator Barack Obama has invoked the FOIA in Illinois
when it was politically expedient and ignored or violated the
FOIA at other times. In the Illinois Senate proceedings of
Mr. Obama, in Senate Bill 1416, pleads the importance of businesses
bidding on state contracts having improved access to FOIA data. When
later questioned about his records during his term in the IL
Senate, Mr. Obama gave evasive answers or refused to supply records.
Whereas: The First Amendment provides a right for the people "to
petition the government for a redress of grievances." Precedents
exist for impeachment and expulsion of a US Senator. Senator William
Blount was impeached by the House on July 7, 1797 and expelled by
the Senate the next day.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that we, the People, Undersigned,
being citizens of the United States and residents in the Cities and States so
indicated, HEREBY Demand that the Congress of the United States begin
immediate impeachment and/or expulsion proceedings against Senator
Barack Obama.
Addendum: Petition to Impeach Senator Obama
We were urged to add the following information about Senator Obama.
This comes under the topic of lies and deception but also falls under more
serious charges of abuse of power and possible violation of the Logan Act.
Those signing the petition prior to this addendum will be identified.
August 4, 2008
Whereas: As a US Senator, Barack Obama violated the stated intention of
his 2006 Official Government Visa to Africa by publicly propagandizing
for his cousin, Railla Odinga against the US democratic ally of Kenya.
Whereas the stated “mission” of Senator Obama’s Official Visa, according
to the Kenya Office of Public Communications, was to “nurture relations
between the Continent and the United States” he, instead, made public
protest before Kenya citizens to rally against their leadership,
invoking a need for “Change!” and accusing this US allied nation of
“corruption.” In Official Protest of Mr. Obama’s passport abuse and
misconduct, Kenya’s government cited his “extremely disturbing
statements on issues which it is clear, he was very poorly informed, and
on which he chose to lecture the Government and the people of Kenya on
how to manage our country.” Whereas, furthermore, there is no public
record of any sanctions or reprimand by the US Congress of Senator
Obama’s passport violation or campaigning on foreign soil against a US
ally, history has since recorded the broadspread destruction of Kenya’s
economy and large scale loss of life as a result of the violence
instigated by Odinga’s ODM campaign there.
http://www.obamaimpeachment.org/impeachobamapetition.html
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Charlie Lane
10:07AM Oct 1st 2008
Sarah Palin will beat Biden senseless in the debate.
First Biden will start out condescending and act like Mr Fluffy
then go BALLISTIC. Maybe we can watch him have a stroke.
Now that will be interesting, since Hillary told Obama to take a
flying leap at a rolling doughnut and stuff his VP 'Job'.
Palin even by her enemies standards is a "Quick Study" and an
excellent speaker.
Biden has being Flip Flopping and bumbling around to years. Biden
can't get it right.
Obama doesn't even know how to discern between yes and no buttons in
the Senate.
Lets not even go into Obama's background and associates.
Some women possibly have started identifying
with Democratic Men who still believe in that "Dumb Old Girl
Syndrome". Democratic men are chauvinistic pigs and many of them have
a deviated hatred and fear of women. Not that there is anything wrong
with that.
Sarah Palin might have had a couple of hick ups and sputters but she will
be recognized by Americans, by voting time, to be as bright and the highly
intelligent person she is.
Sarah Palin will kick 'ol Biden's fat butt back to Delaware where it
belongs.
John Edwards Mr Democrat knocks up a woman, cheating on his dying wife that just about defines the Democrats for me.
It is time for America to stop Discriminating against Women. First
Hillary gets 'cheated' then the Dems smear Sarah Palin.
I've heard enough from these male chauvinistic assholes.
So in advance of the debate Thursday.
Enough is Enough
Screw off Biden You Stinking Condescending Asshole.
First Biden will start out condescending and act like Mr Fluffy
then go BALLISTIC. Maybe we can watch him have a stroke.
Now that will be interesting, since Hillary told Obama to take a
flying leap at a rolling doughnut and stuff his VP 'Job'.
Palin even by her enemies standards is a "Quick Study" and an
excellent speaker.
Biden has being Flip Flopping and bumbling around to years. Biden
can't get it right.
Obama doesn't even know how to discern between yes and no buttons in
the Senate.
Lets not even go into Obama's background and associates.
Some women possibly have started identifying
with Democratic Men who still believe in that "Dumb Old Girl
Syndrome". Democratic men are chauvinistic pigs and many of them have
a deviated hatred and fear of women. Not that there is anything wrong
with that.
Sarah Palin might have had a couple of hick ups and sputters but she will
be recognized by Americans, by voting time, to be as bright and the highly
intelligent person she is.
Sarah Palin will kick 'ol Biden's fat butt back to Delaware where it
belongs.
John Edwards Mr Democrat knocks up a woman, cheating on his dying wife that just about defines the Democrats for me.
It is time for America to stop Discriminating against Women. First
Hillary gets 'cheated' then the Dems smear Sarah Palin.
I've heard enough from these male chauvinistic assholes.
So in advance of the debate Thursday.
Enough is Enough
Screw off Biden You Stinking Condescending Asshole.
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(0) Leslie Brooks
10:09AM Oct 1st 2008
Change we can believe ????? OBAMA"S POLICE STATE
Are We Becoming an Obama Police State?
Update 9/28/08 10:12 AM ET:
"The public prosecutor states that Missouri officials will be joining Obama’s Truth Squad to remind Missourians that Barack Obama is a “Christian.” Does that mean that Missouri police will threaten and possibly arrest anyone who questions Obama’s religion? If Missouri public officials are SO concerned about truth-in-advertising, why don’t they open a non-partisan Truth Squad to review ALL ads?"
ALSO, be aware that the Obama campaign has sicced its legal team on stations in Pennsylvania and Ohio, urging them to refuse to broadcast NRA ads attacking Obama’s anti-gun positions. I’d like to see the results of Obama’s efforts thus far to intimidate media outlets; have any refused the ads? Public officials running for elected office are fair game when it comes to speech, the normal definition of libel does not apply. The Obama campaign knows that they have no legal basis to challenge critical speech and they don’t care; their actions are designed to get results via intimidation. The Missouri officials should be fired.
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I am now officially afraid. If Barack Obama is elected, are we destined to become an Orwellian police state?
“Liberals” are defending Barack Obama’s use of tax-payer funded law enforcement officials in Missouri to threaten TV stations that run anti-Obama political advertisements.
“What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.
“This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights.
"WHAT IS OUR DEMOCRACY COMING TO"?? When a "Chicago thug" intimidates people on freedom of speech!!
In the name of Democracy, I say: lock the thugs up!
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
Change we can believe ?????
A Police State We can Believe In
Barack Obama and his Movement followers have taken a dangerous step to the right. Their new Truth Squad in Missouri has enlisted sheriffs, county prosecutors, and other law enforcement officers to investigate "lying" by any person or group opposed to Obama politically.
St. Louis County Prosecutors and Obama supporters Bob McCulloch and Jennifer Joyce, along with Jefferson County Sheriff Glen Boyer, have joined the Obama Truth Squad in Saint Louis to fight supposed lies told by citizens and citizen groups about their chosen candidate.
This is chilling. It is a decided and brazen step toward a Police State.
I received an email from an Obama supporter insisting that the McCain Campaign also has Truth Squads set up in key states to challenge rumors and mischaracterizations (or "lies") about McCain's record and character.
I looked into it, and the Obama supporter is correct: McCain does have Truth Squads. Here's the difference: McCain's Truth Squads are comprised of Republican elected officials and sympathetic surrogates who respond locally and loudly to attacks on McCain. Fair enough. The Obama Campaign should, and does, do the same thing. When Gov. Ed Rendell gets on PA media and defends Obama against attacks, he's doing exactly what he's supposed to -- campaigning and defending his party's candidate. No problem.
Here's the problem: When the person knocking on your door to challenge your political statements is also WEARING A BADGE and has the STATE PROSECUTOR BEHIND him with his PROSECUTOR'S HAT ON, you are BEING THREATENED BY THE STATE.
Jennifer Joyce and Bob McCulloch are acting as Officers of the Court when they tell television station KMOV in St. Louis that there are criminal and civil laws on the books that MAY be used to prosecute citizens or citizens' groups for "lying" about Obama. Sheriff Glen Boyer is acting as a SHERIFF when he implies that he's going to "go after" those who "lie" about Obama.
TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE in a democratic society. Totally unacceptable.
This is what the First Amendment was written for, Folks.
Read more about it here:
http://stlcofcc.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/obamination-obama-supporters-bob-mcculloch-jennifer-joyce-threaten-to-prosecute-people-for-criticizing-obama/
Are We Becoming an Obama Police State?
Update 9/28/08 10:12 AM ET:
"The public prosecutor states that Missouri officials will be joining Obama’s Truth Squad to remind Missourians that Barack Obama is a “Christian.” Does that mean that Missouri police will threaten and possibly arrest anyone who questions Obama’s religion? If Missouri public officials are SO concerned about truth-in-advertising, why don’t they open a non-partisan Truth Squad to review ALL ads?"
ALSO, be aware that the Obama campaign has sicced its legal team on stations in Pennsylvania and Ohio, urging them to refuse to broadcast NRA ads attacking Obama’s anti-gun positions. I’d like to see the results of Obama’s efforts thus far to intimidate media outlets; have any refused the ads? Public officials running for elected office are fair game when it comes to speech, the normal definition of libel does not apply. The Obama campaign knows that they have no legal basis to challenge critical speech and they don’t care; their actions are designed to get results via intimidation. The Missouri officials should be fired.
------------------------------------------------------
I am now officially afraid. If Barack Obama is elected, are we destined to become an Orwellian police state?
“Liberals” are defending Barack Obama’s use of tax-payer funded law enforcement officials in Missouri to threaten TV stations that run anti-Obama political advertisements.
“What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.
“This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights.
"WHAT IS OUR DEMOCRACY COMING TO"?? When a "Chicago thug" intimidates people on freedom of speech!!
In the name of Democracy, I say: lock the thugs up!
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
Change we can believe ?????
A Police State We can Believe In
Barack Obama and his Movement followers have taken a dangerous step to the right. Their new Truth Squad in Missouri has enlisted sheriffs, county prosecutors, and other law enforcement officers to investigate "lying" by any person or group opposed to Obama politically.
St. Louis County Prosecutors and Obama supporters Bob McCulloch and Jennifer Joyce, along with Jefferson County Sheriff Glen Boyer, have joined the Obama Truth Squad in Saint Louis to fight supposed lies told by citizens and citizen groups about their chosen candidate.
This is chilling. It is a decided and brazen step toward a Police State.
I received an email from an Obama supporter insisting that the McCain Campaign also has Truth Squads set up in key states to challenge rumors and mischaracterizations (or "lies") about McCain's record and character.
I looked into it, and the Obama supporter is correct: McCain does have Truth Squads. Here's the difference: McCain's Truth Squads are comprised of Republican elected officials and sympathetic surrogates who respond locally and loudly to attacks on McCain. Fair enough. The Obama Campaign should, and does, do the same thing. When Gov. Ed Rendell gets on PA media and defends Obama against attacks, he's doing exactly what he's supposed to -- campaigning and defending his party's candidate. No problem.
Here's the problem: When the person knocking on your door to challenge your political statements is also WEARING A BADGE and has the STATE PROSECUTOR BEHIND him with his PROSECUTOR'S HAT ON, you are BEING THREATENED BY THE STATE.
Jennifer Joyce and Bob McCulloch are acting as Officers of the Court when they tell television station KMOV in St. Louis that there are criminal and civil laws on the books that MAY be used to prosecute citizens or citizens' groups for "lying" about Obama. Sheriff Glen Boyer is acting as a SHERIFF when he implies that he's going to "go after" those who "lie" about Obama.
TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE in a democratic society. Totally unacceptable.
This is what the First Amendment was written for, Folks.
Read more about it here:
http://stlcofcc.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/obamination-obama-supporters-bob-mcculloch-jennifer-joyce-threaten-to-prosecute-people-for-criticizing-obama/
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(0) SurpriseOctober
10:09AM Oct 1st 2008
I know I must be hallucinating, but did David Knowles just write a sensible blog? Did he not even bash or blame McCain for all of it? I am stunned, seriously.
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(0) CC
10:19AM Oct 1st 2008
I have listened to our leaders, listened to pundits on network and cable, read newspapers, read blogs, and read the tons of email forwards in my mailbox. Why are we all more uninformed than ever? This economic atmosphere has been called a crisis, a rescue, a bailout, and perhaps most accurately, a freeze of the credit markets. We need now, more than ever, calm, very smart leadership. We need leaders who can explain complex issues, we need leaders who can use the bully pulpit to educate. When I look at the Henny Penny actions of John McCain, I am not reassured. When I watch Gov. Palin's very general and evasive answers to direct questions, I am not educated.
Senators Obama and Biden are calm, informed leaders with deep connections to the economic leadership that ran our economy when it worked. Let's give the reins to leaders this time that are articulate and committed to lifting the entire boat, not just the top tier. Let's vote and REALLY put the country first.
Obama/Biden '08.
Senators Obama and Biden are calm, informed leaders with deep connections to the economic leadership that ran our economy when it worked. Let's give the reins to leaders this time that are articulate and committed to lifting the entire boat, not just the top tier. Let's vote and REALLY put the country first.
Obama/Biden '08.
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(0) Faith Leon
10:25AM Oct 1st 2008
Knowles finally a decent article. See what you can do just by using your mind>
This mess will be solved and the battle won but, how many bodies will be dead on the beach as the troops head for Berlin?
This mess will be solved and the battle won but, how many bodies will be dead on the beach as the troops head for Berlin?
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(0) Michael Woodyard
10:40AM Oct 1st 2008
Again, a stupendous crisis awaits us. The Top CEO's
needs to swallow this bill. And besides If I remember
The Economy took a 1.2 Trillion dollar hit. It appears
to me the 700 Billion bail-out would not have made a
significant difference. At the end of the day we fell a negative 500 Billion short. But that's ok let's get back to the round table and talk about a 2 Trillion dollar deficient. Folks you can not sqeeze blood from a turnip. CEO's would be required to stop living above there means.
needs to swallow this bill. And besides If I remember
The Economy took a 1.2 Trillion dollar hit. It appears
to me the 700 Billion bail-out would not have made a
significant difference. At the end of the day we fell a negative 500 Billion short. But that's ok let's get back to the round table and talk about a 2 Trillion dollar deficient. Folks you can not sqeeze blood from a turnip. CEO's would be required to stop living above there means.
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(0) Steve Seivers
10:56AM Oct 1st 2008
David,
Most of these comments are also appearing on all of the other AOL Blogs. Do you have any sense of whether the commentors are paid republican workers. Its all to conceivable that they have recruited a BLOG SQUAD.
Most of these comments are also appearing on all of the other AOL Blogs. Do you have any sense of whether the commentors are paid republican workers. Its all to conceivable that they have recruited a BLOG SQUAD.
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(0) Steven
11:10AM Oct 1st 2008
Now THIS is a good plan! So pragmatic, simple, straight forward and would work so beautifully - so of course it couldn't happen...............or could it?
Who said economics had to be complicated and more than non-economists could understand?
I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a “We Deserve It Dividend”.
To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up.
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billion that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a
“We Deserve It Dividend”.
Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket. A husband and wife have $595,000.00.
What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
-Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.
-Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads.
-Put away money for college - it'll be there.
-Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
-Buy a new car - create jobs
-Invest in the market - capital drives growth
-Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves.
-Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean or else.
-Pay off past due mortgages or buy a new home with a sizeable down payment.
-Pay off credit cards.
-Pay off auto loans (or buy new cars).
-Now credit card companies and lenders are out of trouble…PROBLEM SOLVED!
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.
If we're going to redistribute wealth let's really do it...instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.
If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
As for AIG - liquidate it! Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General. Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.
Sure it's a crazy idea that can work.
But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!
How do you spell Economic Boom?
I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion “We Deserve It Dividend” more than the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC.
And remember, The Family plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
Who said economics had to be complicated and more than non-economists could understand?
I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a “We Deserve It Dividend”.
To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up.
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billion that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a
“We Deserve It Dividend”.
Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket. A husband and wife have $595,000.00.
What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
-Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.
-Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads.
-Put away money for college - it'll be there.
-Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
-Buy a new car - create jobs
-Invest in the market - capital drives growth
-Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves.
-Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean or else.
-Pay off past due mortgages or buy a new home with a sizeable down payment.
-Pay off credit cards.
-Pay off auto loans (or buy new cars).
-Now credit card companies and lenders are out of trouble…PROBLEM SOLVED!
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.
If we're going to redistribute wealth let's really do it...instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.
If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!
As for AIG - liquidate it! Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General. Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.
Sure it's a crazy idea that can work.
But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!
How do you spell Economic Boom?
I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion “We Deserve It Dividend” more than the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC.
And remember, The Family plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
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(0) Walt Culver
11:11AM Oct 1st 2008
Wow! This board seems to be taken over today by some of the most virulent rabble-rousing on behalf of McCain/Palin I have ever seen: even a petition to IMPEACH Obama in the Senate!! It’s to the point of hysteria, folks.
Could it be because McCain is falling into the abyss in the polls--even in what should be cinch states for him such as Ohio and Florida?
Take a look at McCain's standing vs. Obama in a poll-of-polls in Florida:
9/8 +2.6 points
9/15 +6.3
9/22 +2.8
9/29 +0.3
10/1 -1.4
You’ll find this at the politically independent WEB site http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/fl/florida_mccain_vs_obama-418.html
Ohio shows the same trend and is just as bad.
With 4 weeks and 3 days to go, and with some exigency votes being cast even this week in some states, I don't see how McCain can avoid one of the most disastrous landslide losses in recent history.
Could it be because McCain is falling into the abyss in the polls--even in what should be cinch states for him such as Ohio and Florida?
Take a look at McCain's standing vs. Obama in a poll-of-polls in Florida:
9/8 +2.6 points
9/15 +6.3
9/22 +2.8
9/29 +0.3
10/1 -1.4
You’ll find this at the politically independent WEB site http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/fl/florida_mccain_vs_obama-418.html
Ohio shows the same trend and is just as bad.
With 4 weeks and 3 days to go, and with some exigency votes being cast even this week in some states, I don't see how McCain can avoid one of the most disastrous landslide losses in recent history.
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11:11AM Oct 1st 2008
September 30, 2008
ACORN, Obama, and the Mortgage Mess
By Mona Charen
The financial markets were teetering on the edge of an abyss last week. The secretary of the Treasury was literally on his knees begging the speaker of the House not to sabotage the bailout bill. The crash of falling banks made the earth tremble. The Republican presidential candidate suspended his campaign to deal with the crisis.
*******And amid all this, the Democrats in Congress managed to find time to slip language into the bailout legislation that would provide a dandy little slush fund for
ACORN, Obama, and the Mortgage Mess
By Mona Charen
The financial markets were teetering on the edge of an abyss last week. The secretary of the Treasury was literally on his knees begging the speaker of the House not to sabotage the bailout bill. The crash of falling banks made the earth tremble. The Republican presidential candidate suspended his campaign to deal with the crisis.
*******And amid all this, the Democrats in Congress managed to find time to slip language into the bailout legislation that would provide a dandy little slush fund for
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(0) In Other News
11:12AM Oct 1st 2008
More ACORN and CORRUPT OBAMA
ACORN stands for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, a busy hive of left-wing agitation and "direct action" that claims chapters in 50 cities and 100,000 dues-paying members. ACORN is where Sixties leftovers who couldn't get tenure at universities wound up. That the bill-writing Democrats remembered their pet clients during such an emergency speaks volumes. This attempted gift to ACORN (stripped out of the bill after outraged howls from Republicans) demonstrates how little Democrats understand about what caused the mess we're in.
ACORN stands for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, a busy hive of left-wing agitation and "direct action" that claims chapters in 50 cities and 100,000 dues-paying members. ACORN is where Sixties leftovers who couldn't get tenure at universities wound up. That the bill-writing Democrats remembered their pet clients during such an emergency speaks volumes. This attempted gift to ACORN (stripped out of the bill after outraged howls from Republicans) demonstrates how little Democrats understand about what caused the mess we're in.
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(0) In Other News
11:16AM Oct 1st 2008
EMOCRATS AND OBAMA CAN BE SO PROUD OF THEIR VOTER FRAUD
ACORN does many things under the umbrella of "community organizing." They agitate for higher minimum wages, attempt to thwart school reform, try to unionize welfare workers (that is, those welfare recipients who are obliged to work in exchange for benefits) and organize voter registration efforts (always for Democrats, of course). Because they are on the side of righteousness and justice, they aren't especially fastidious about their methods. In 2006, for example, ACORN registered 1,800 new voters in Washington. The only trouble was, with the exception of six, all of the names submitted were fake. The secretary of state called it the "worst case of election fraud in our state's history." As Fox News reported:
"The ACORN workers told state investigators that they went to the Seattle public library, sat at a table and filled out the voter registration forms. They made up names, addresses, and Social Security numbers and in some cases plucked names from the phone book. One worker said it was a lot of hard work making up all those names and another said he would sit at home, smoke marijuana and fill out the forms."
ACORN explained that this was an "isolated" incident, yet similar stories have been reported in Missouri, Michigan, Ohio, and Colorado -- all swing states, by the way. ACORN members have been prosecuted for voter fraud in a number of states. (See www.rottenacorn.com.)
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Their philosophy seems to be that everyone deserves the right to vote, whether legal or illegal, living or dead.
ACORN does many things under the umbrella of "community organizing." They agitate for higher minimum wages, attempt to thwart school reform, try to unionize welfare workers (that is, those welfare recipients who are obliged to work in exchange for benefits) and organize voter registration efforts (always for Democrats, of course). Because they are on the side of righteousness and justice, they aren't especially fastidious about their methods. In 2006, for example, ACORN registered 1,800 new voters in Washington. The only trouble was, with the exception of six, all of the names submitted were fake. The secretary of state called it the "worst case of election fraud in our state's history." As Fox News reported:
"The ACORN workers told state investigators that they went to the Seattle public library, sat at a table and filled out the voter registration forms. They made up names, addresses, and Social Security numbers and in some cases plucked names from the phone book. One worker said it was a lot of hard work making up all those names and another said he would sit at home, smoke marijuana and fill out the forms."
ACORN explained that this was an "isolated" incident, yet similar stories have been reported in Missouri, Michigan, Ohio, and Colorado -- all swing states, by the way. ACORN members have been prosecuted for voter fraud in a number of states. (See www.rottenacorn.com.)
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Their philosophy seems to be that everyone deserves the right to vote, whether legal or illegal, living or dead.
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11:16AM Oct 1st 2008
MORE ACORN AND CORRUPT OBAMA
ACORN recognized very early the opportunity presented by the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) of 1977. As Stanley Kurtz has reported, ACORN proudly touted "affirmative action" lending and pressured banks to make subprime loans. Madeline Talbott, a Chicago ACORN leader, boasted of "dragging banks kicking and screaming" into dubious loans. And, as Sol Stern reported in City Journal, ACORN also found a remunerative niche as an "advisor" to banks seeking regulatory approval. "Thus we have J.P. Morgan & Co., the legatee of the man who once symbolized for many all that was supposedly evil about American capitalism, suddenly donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to ACORN." Is this a great country or what? As conservative community activist Robert Woodson put it, "The same corporations that pay ransom to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton pay ransom to ACORN."
ACORN attracted Barack Obama in his youthful community organizing days. Madeline Talbott hired him to train her staff -- the very people who would later descend on Chicago's banks as CRA shakedown artists. The Democratic nominee later funneled money to the group through the Woods Fund, on whose board he sat, and through the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, ditto. Obama was not just sympathetic -- he was an ACORN fellow traveler.
Now you could make the case that before 2008, well-intentioned people were simply unaware of what their agitation on behalf of non-credit-worthy borrowers could lead to. But now? With the whole financial world and possibly the world economy trembling and cracking like a cement building in an earthquake, Democrats continue to try to fund their friends at ACORN? And, unashamed, they then trot out to the TV cameras to declare "the party is over" for Wall Street (Nancy Pelosi)? The party should be over for the Democrats who brought us to this pass. If Obama wins, it means hiring an arsonist to fight a fire.
Copyright 2008, Creators Syndicate Inc.
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LETS SAY THAT LAST LINE AGAIN AS IT PERTAINS TO OBAMA
If Obama wins, it means hiring an arsonist to fight a fire.
ACORN recognized very early the opportunity presented by the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) of 1977. As Stanley Kurtz has reported, ACORN proudly touted "affirmative action" lending and pressured banks to make subprime loans. Madeline Talbott, a Chicago ACORN leader, boasted of "dragging banks kicking and screaming" into dubious loans. And, as Sol Stern reported in City Journal, ACORN also found a remunerative niche as an "advisor" to banks seeking regulatory approval. "Thus we have J.P. Morgan & Co., the legatee of the man who once symbolized for many all that was supposedly evil about American capitalism, suddenly donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to ACORN." Is this a great country or what? As conservative community activist Robert Woodson put it, "The same corporations that pay ransom to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton pay ransom to ACORN."
ACORN attracted Barack Obama in his youthful community organizing days. Madeline Talbott hired him to train her staff -- the very people who would later descend on Chicago's banks as CRA shakedown artists. The Democratic nominee later funneled money to the group through the Woods Fund, on whose board he sat, and through the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, ditto. Obama was not just sympathetic -- he was an ACORN fellow traveler.
Now you could make the case that before 2008, well-intentioned people were simply unaware of what their agitation on behalf of non-credit-worthy borrowers could lead to. But now? With the whole financial world and possibly the world economy trembling and cracking like a cement building in an earthquake, Democrats continue to try to fund their friends at ACORN? And, unashamed, they then trot out to the TV cameras to declare "the party is over" for Wall Street (Nancy Pelosi)? The party should be over for the Democrats who brought us to this pass. If Obama wins, it means hiring an arsonist to fight a fire.
Copyright 2008, Creators Syndicate Inc.
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LETS SAY THAT LAST LINE AGAIN AS IT PERTAINS TO OBAMA
If Obama wins, it means hiring an arsonist to fight a fire.
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(0) Walt Culver
11:26AM Oct 1st 2008
Steve Seivers - Where else on AOL did you see the more egregious postings that make you wonder about a McCain blogging machine?
I myslef had that suspicion. For example, no sane blogger would spend the hour it would take to prepare the impeachment posting that appears here today.
If you prefer, you can e-mail me directly at WaltCulver@AOL.com, and maybe I can alert some reporters I know about any underhanded stuff that's going on.
I myslef had that suspicion. For example, no sane blogger would spend the hour it would take to prepare the impeachment posting that appears here today.
If you prefer, you can e-mail me directly at WaltCulver@AOL.com, and maybe I can alert some reporters I know about any underhanded stuff that's going on.
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11:44AM Oct 1st 2008
WALT, YOU ARE LOOKING AT A PAID OBAMABOT AS THE WRITER OF THIS PATHETIC STORY...David Knowles
October 2, 2008
MEMORANDUM
TO: Tommy Christopher, David Knowless and Denise Williams
FROM: Barack Obama
SUBJECT: OBAMA TRASH THE BROADS CAMPAIGN
It has come to my attention that my $7.00 per hour paid pimps on the AOL Political Machine are not doing their job convincing people that I am the ONE, the MESSIAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I understand McCain has a 24 point lead over me on the AOL straw poll and I DEMAND ACTION.
Never mind that I am the most fraudulent and corrupt Politician in America today.
Boy did I mis-under-estimate the wrath of 20 million women scorned and you MUST do something about those SKIRTS that are taking me down. I certainly didn't want any pig with lipstick telling me what to do, now or ever.
I know you attack Palin in everything you write but do MORE, who cares if its true or not!!!! My buddies in Chicago are getting very upset and that can be harmful to my health and YOURS!
The VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE is coming up and I want you to gather an arsenal of INSULTS AND INNUENDO that you will have READY TO GO, no matter how well she does. Any COMPLIMENTS ARE FOBIDDEN OR ALLAH AND MY CHICAGO THUGS WILL GET YOU.
You have 24 hours to get those idiots to love me.
Sincerely
Barack (call me if you need me) (THE ONE), Hussein Obama
October 2, 2008
MEMORANDUM
TO: Tommy Christopher, David Knowless and Denise Williams
FROM: Barack Obama
SUBJECT: OBAMA TRASH THE BROADS CAMPAIGN
It has come to my attention that my $7.00 per hour paid pimps on the AOL Political Machine are not doing their job convincing people that I am the ONE, the MESSIAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I understand McCain has a 24 point lead over me on the AOL straw poll and I DEMAND ACTION.
Never mind that I am the most fraudulent and corrupt Politician in America today.
Boy did I mis-under-estimate the wrath of 20 million women scorned and you MUST do something about those SKIRTS that are taking me down. I certainly didn't want any pig with lipstick telling me what to do, now or ever.
I know you attack Palin in everything you write but do MORE, who cares if its true or not!!!! My buddies in Chicago are getting very upset and that can be harmful to my health and YOURS!
The VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE is coming up and I want you to gather an arsenal of INSULTS AND INNUENDO that you will have READY TO GO, no matter how well she does. Any COMPLIMENTS ARE FOBIDDEN OR ALLAH AND MY CHICAGO THUGS WILL GET YOU.
You have 24 hours to get those idiots to love me.
Sincerely
Barack (call me if you need me) (THE ONE), Hussein Obama
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(0) Wild
11:50AM Oct 1st 2008
Has anyone seen the children singing for Obama?
Reminds me of the Hitler Youth. Hitler was Germany's pagan g-d, that is what happens when you lose-kick out the real thing!
Reminds me of the Hitler Youth. Hitler was Germany's pagan g-d, that is what happens when you lose-kick out the real thing!
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(0) muni
11:59AM Oct 1st 2008
If the US senate passes a financial bailout today then the US economy will fail. If they do not pass it, Russian economy in trouble. Donald Trump is right. No bailout - oil prices will dump. Fuel prices will go down, recession would be averted and people would have cash to pay their bills instead of credit.
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(0) Steve Seivers
12:39PM Oct 1st 2008
Walt
You can find the same commentors with the same comments on each Political Machine Blog. Evidently, they are pasted everywhere. I have no proof that the comments are duplicitous or complicite however they look suspicous.
You can find the same commentors with the same comments on each Political Machine Blog. Evidently, they are pasted everywhere. I have no proof that the comments are duplicitous or complicite however they look suspicous.
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(0) Rias10
12:52PM Oct 1st 2008
John McCain is an Economic Disaster. 34 days until McCain and the McCainites self destruct.
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/john-mccain-economic-disaster/4105879787
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/john-mccain-economic-disaster/4105879787
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