The Wooden Arrow Bailout

In the 60;s and 70's the american public stood up against an unpopular war. I am a veteran of that war. what is happening in washington is a much bigger threat to the american way of life then that war ever was. America should hit the streets in protest, demand that paulson, bernanke, dodd, shumer, reid, pelosi, frank all resign immediately and that the justice department and the FBI conduct immediate investigations and seek indictments for all involved in the corruption upto and to include Obama

READ MY LIPS "NO MORE PORK SPENDING." John McCain should be ashamed of supporting and voting for this Bill. "I WILL NOT VOTE FOR A BILL WITH PORK IN IT."
What the hell is John McCains diffinition of "PORK?"
The Bill was padded not for the Democrats but for the Republicans. 4 MORE YEARS OF GWB! For someone who has promised he would cut spending why he agreed to vote for this bill shows how the Republican Party will
Muscle him into signing into law legislation if he becomes President against the American Peoples will.
McCain will cut Government spending to support the Republicans PORK!

Goldman Sacs is still standing, can someone tell me if Henry Paulson Jr. still own a substancially amount of stock in that company where he was the CEO? If he owns any stock in any of the financial institutions he should be investigated by the FBI concerning this financial Crisis. Paulson was appointed by GWB,and confirmed by the Senate in 2006, didn't Mortgage Meltdown start shortly after he took his position. All I know is he is a professional investment banker and he has friends lined up and down Wall-Street. Something stinks about this entire collaspe and the Bail-Out, and Paulson asking for a $700 Billion dollar blank Check with no oversight. This stinks and Americans need to wake up and start demanding answers from the United States Ungovernment.

I agree 100% with JUDY fERGUSON!!!

I'm sorry but this just reeks of unscrupulous conduct by Treasury Secretary Paulson he is a former CEO of Glodman Sachs one of the investment houses accountable for the Wall Street collision

oops... I agree 100 % with JUDY fERGUSON on THIS article

JUDY fERGUSON9:15AMOct 2nd 2008
Goldman Sacs is still standing, can someone tell me if Henry Paulson Jr. still own a substancially amount of stock in that company where he was the CEO? If he owns any stock in any of the financial institutions he should be investigated by the FBI concerning this financial Crisis. Paulson was appointed by GWB,and confirmed by the Senate in 2006, didn't Mortgage Meltdown start shortly after he took his position. All I know is he is a professional investment banker and he has friends lined up and down Wall-Street. Something stinks about this entire collaspe and the Bail-Out, and Paulson asking for a $700 Billion dollar blank Check with no oversight. This stinks and Americans need to wake up and start demanding answers from the United States Ungovernment.

Just another taking of the American people. If you can't get someone to agree with your take on a bill, put something in that they have to vote for. If you want to kill a bill, put something in nobody would vote for.

Our system is horribly brokenm, and the only ones who can fix it are the crooks we put there.

....this was sent to me by a creative mind that is a single parent struggling not to go into foreclosure. I thought that it had its merits so I'm passing it on; If nothing it would give the big money people that put us in this mess something to PONDER; while we the average citizen can only wonder WHY? Perhaps it's time to take back OUR AMERICA!!!

.To All My Friends Who Think "Outside the Box"....

I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.

Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend.

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.

My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It Dividend.

Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.

Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes. That sends $25,500,000,0 00 right back to Uncle Sam.

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket. A Husband and wife has $595,000.00.

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?

Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.

Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads

Put away money for college - it'll be there

Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.

Buy a new car - create jobs

Invest in the market - capital drives growth

Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves

Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else

Reset the Welfare and Medicare/Medicaid Systems to weed out the fraud.

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back, as well as those that lost everything in Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas after the hurricanes. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces.

If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( "vote buy" ) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.

If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult U S Citizen 18+!

As for AIG - liquidate it.

Sell off its parts.

Let American General go back to being American General. Sell off the real estate.

Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.

Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.

Sure it's a crazy idea but it is extremely LOGICAL!

How do you spell Economic Boom? Talk about an American moral booster! This plan is about all Americans and is not based on race, gender, or socio-economic status.

I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington DC.

And remember, The Family plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because $25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.

Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.

Kindest personal regards, A Creative Guy & Citizen.


Perhaps a few more creative minds in Washington and a few managers who can manage would serve the American people from getting into such dire
Positions. Make your vote count in placing some new blood in Congress.
Time to turn over the controlling party politicians and elect those that
Can act in the interest of all Americans. Thought this is a creative
Idea to help Americans.

McCains canceling his campaign was surely a DRAMA QUEEN moment.

Mondays news press of the Reuplicans congressional houses, "failed bailout" was another DRAMA QUEEN moment.

And now they have to add candy (pork) to entice the repubs to pass the bill?

These guys hide behind a macho persona, but really? Where do they buy their dresses?

the stock market just opened and guess what it's still down?

Unfortunately, The Sad Truth Is, most of our elected politicians, owe
their allegiance, not to the people they are supposed to represent,
but their allegiance leans towards those who have buttered their
bread, so to speak. This being the big-money lobbyists, who represent
major corporations, and in some cases foreign governments. In my
opinion, the time is long gone when we can blindly follow the
political path of any one party. Treasonable acts used to be punishable by public hanging, or firing squads.(((Sounds to me, like a good way to make a point.))) The State of the World is not going to change for the better
overnight, regardless of who our new president is. This country is
definitely going to need a leader who is familiar, in at least some
degree, with military strategies, and smart enough to surround
him/her self with world savvy advisors. Some of the deals are politicians on both sides of the fence have cut with the major corporations, are borderline Treasonable, independent investigations should be started and charges brought against these politicians and corporations.

They have endangered the welfare and security of this nation .
Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax co de, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one presi dent, and nine Supreme Court justices – 545 human beings out of the 300 million – are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyis t s for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to acc e pt it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't t hink of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ .

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.
There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation,' or 'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an o ath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses –
provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

They are all a complete embarrasment. They should all be fired. CROOKS

as if 700B was not enough. let's give another 150B for wooden friggin arrows. let's not be idiots the next time these fools run for office. find an independent and vote.

Treasonable acts used to be punishable by public hanging, or firing squads.(((Sounds to me, like a good way to make a point.))) Unfortunately, The Sad Truth Is, most of our elected politicians, owe
their allegiance, not to the people they are supposed to represent,
but their allegiance leans towards those who have buttered their
bread, so to speak. This being the big-money lobbyists, who represent
major corporations, and in some cases foreign governments. In my
opinion, the time is long gone when we can blindly follow the political path of any one party. The State of the World is not going to change for the better
overnight, regardless of who our new president is. This country is
definitely going to need a leader who is familiar, in at least some
degree, with military strategies, and smart enough to surround
him/her self with world savvy advisors. Some of the deals are politicians on both sides of the fence have cut with the major corporations, are borderline Treasonable, independent investigations should be started and charges brought against these politicians and corporations.

They have endangered the welfare and security of this nation .
Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.

You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax co de, Congress does.

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one presi dent, and nine Supreme Court justices – 545 human beings out of the 300 million – are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyis t s for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to acc e pt it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't t hink of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they want them in IRAQ .

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.
There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation,' or 'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an o ath to do.

Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

They, and they alone, have the power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses –
provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

I just read that Goldman Sach's would be one of the largest beneficiaries of the $700 Billion dollar Bail-out. Paulson has many advisors from Goldman Sach's as his advisors working on this plan. This is some scary S--T man, how the Bush Administration has abused the American Citizens. My stumach is in stitches just thinking about the money we lost in our 401 K behind a Wall Street Crook.

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I am proud of my state senator for voting against this bill.

I supported this bailout until now. Pass a clean bill, or if your going to load it with pork, how about somethying for the little guy.

Amazing the criticism on the bill. Even Obama who claims he's against the pork voted for this. I would suspect if 200,000 pork should sink a major recovery bill then I guess putting the country first was right. Second many of the tax issues people seem to have forgotten were already approved previously by the Senate sine they help job creation and oil independence which the House failed to previously act on. These tax incentives will help the economy. Lastly it seems so many people are complaining that Wall Street was bailed out and Banks. The Banks have had much of this rammed down thier throat since 1996 including regulatory oversite. Sarbanes - Oxley accounting relief seems to have gotten lost which will provide nearly as much temporaty relief as the buy back of impaired assets. Those who complain the home owner being foreclosed on got no break should remember its the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT who will be collecting on these loans and they can do anything they want to re-write terms when foreclosing. So many have ideas with so few facts.

Politicians are our enemy. During times of crisis and elections they all do their best to whip us into a rabid frenzy against each other....hoping we will not notice what they are doing. The American people spoke this past week telling politicians that we did not want this bail out bill. Yet, our Senate sold us out. Abraham Lincoln said that a house divided against itself cannot stand. So, why are we allowing politicians to divide the people of this great nation. We, the people, should stand together no matter what party you belong to and take back our country.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand". Politicians are dividing Americans against each other. So, if politicians are not the solution, it logically follows that they are the problem. Therefore, we should vote each and every one out of office except those that do what WE THE PEOPLE WANT THEM TO.