Biden Debates Palin, Facts

final a writer who see things factually. I am so sick the main stream media and is bogus reports. Journalism isn't like it use to be unless you watch FOX. They show both sides equally and factually.

So Palin has been roaming freely around the country side talking about Obama's ties to Ayers--all of which have been proven to be a total lie. Obama is going to stay on point about what this election is really about--the things that matter to us. Things like the economy, the war, job loss, home loss, car loss. These are the things that matter to us, the American people. Now I admire Obama's coolness but I wouldn't blame him if he really starts getting a little annoyed with the swift-boat style of attacks coming his way. So here's my question to you ladies--not you dyed in the wool ladies of the Republican party, but you ladies who really really give a damn about your families, your careers, your country--is it okay now for Obama & Company to go after Palin?
Your thoughts. Oh and I don't mean to imply that you Rep women don't care about the above, I just know where your heart is already.

Mgarnett258:46AMOct 3rd 2008

JOE BIDEN’S 14 LIE on DEBATE NIGHT

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.


2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.


3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”


4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.


5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.


6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.


7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false


8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.


9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.


10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.


11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they, John McCain has been proven right.


12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.


13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”


14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.

MCCAIN/PALIN 08
TWO REAL AMERICANS THAT TRULY LOVE THIS COUNTRY WITHOUT EXTREME RADICAL & TERRORIST TIES!

You need to do your homework. Like our parents taught us, (maybe yours didn't) "You are judged by the company you keep." He can deny these facts but the American people need to know that he has in the past been associated with terrosist who still to this date say they hate America.I am a college grad with a degree in nursing. I do very much care for my family and my Country, not my status, but what I can contribute to my fellow man/women. Without cheating, like what is going on with these early ballots. My father worked in a steel mill and so did a few uncles. I am from the working middle class. I don't feel that Barack Mohammad Obama is experienced nor sincere to lead this nation. He just doesn't get it! Change is coming but not with him as commander in chief.

YOU ARE DELUSIONAL,

PLEASE START WATCHING FOX NEWS, "HANNITY'S AMERICA" FOR THE TRUTH ABOUT "obama, the chosen one"

www.obamareligion.net FOR THE REAL obama & his beliefs

WAKE UP!
MCCAIN/PALIN 08
TWO REAL AMERICANS THAT TRULY LOVE THEIR COUNTRY WITHOUT THE EXTREME RADICAL & TERRORIST TIES!


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PCL10:34PMOct 5th 2008

So Palin has been roaming freely around the country side talking about Obama's ties to Ayers--all of which have been proven to be a total lie. Obama is going to stay on point about what this election is really about--the things that matter to us. Things like the economy, the war, job loss, home loss, car loss. These are the things that matter to us, the American people. Now I admire Obama's coolness but I wouldn't blame him if he really starts getting a little annoyed with the swift-boat style of attacks coming his way. So here's my question to you ladies--not you dyed in the wool ladies of the Republican party, but you ladies who really really give a damn about your families, your careers, your country--is it okay now for Obama & Company to go after Palin?
Your thoughts. Oh and I don't mean to imply that you Rep women don't care about the above, I just know where your heart is already.

YOU ARE DELUSIONAL,

PLEASE START WATCHING FOX NEWS, "HANNITY'S AMERICA" FOR THE TRUTH ABOUT "obama, the chosen one"

www.obamareligion.net FOR THE REAL obama & his beliefs

WAKE UP!
MCCAIN/PALIN 08
TWO REAL AMERICANS THAT TRULY LOVE THEIR COUNTRY WITHOUT THE EXTREME RADICAL & TERRORIST TIES!


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PCL10:34PMOct 5th 2008

So Palin has been roaming freely around the country side talking about Obama's ties to Ayers--all of which have been proven to be a total lie. Obama is going to stay on point about what this election is really about--the things that matter to us. Things like the economy, the war, job loss, home loss, car loss. These are the things that matter to us, the American people. Now I admire Obama's coolness but I wouldn't blame him if he really starts getting a little annoyed with the swift-boat style of attacks coming his way. So here's my question to you ladies--not you dyed in the wool ladies of the Republican party, but you ladies who really really give a damn about your families, your careers, your country--is it okay now for Obama & Company to go after Palin?
Your thoughts. Oh and I don't mean to imply that you Rep women don't care about the above, I just know where your heart is already.

Biden: “If you wanna know how tough times are, just walk into any American Motors dealership and ask them how many new Gremlins they’re selling these days. Not many, I can tell you that.”

OBAMA WILL CHANGE:

OUR FLAG

OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE

OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM

He offers change we can "bereave" in.

I'M VOTING FOR THE HONORABLE JOHN McCAIN!

Debra,

Did you watch tonight [6 pm PST] Hannity's America??

If you missed it, I am sure you can YouTube and see WHAT AN EYE OPENER...all the questionable ties ARE NOW OUT IN THE OPEN

I HOPE ALL AMERICANS WERE WATCHING!
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Debra K Thompson10:32PMOct 5th 2008

final a writer who see things factually. I am so sick the main stream media and is bogus reports. Journalism isn't like it use to be unless you watch FOX. They show both sides equally and factually.

Ann,
I missed it but they usually repeat there episodes later and I will record it. That is the only non biased TV news I will watch. It keeps me informed on the truth and not the neg. press the others give only to the GOP. The rest of press has lost the meaning behind true journalism.

Should be out on you tube VERY SOON..FOX NEWS SPECIAL..

IF ANYONE OUT THERE CAN UPLOAD THIS TO YOU TUBE,

WE NEED TO GET THIS OUT ~~~ NOW ASAP

Thanks!
Sunday, October 5: **ONE HOUR SPECIAL** Obama & Friends: A History of Radicalism

FACT CHECKING PALIN IN DEBATE WITH BIDEN
1. Palin on Troop Levels in Iraq....During an exchange on Iraq, Palin erroneously claimed the United States is down to presurge levels in Iraq. Palin said, "We have got to win Iraq. And with the surge that has worked we're now down to presurge numbers in Iraq. That's where we could be." Palin is incorrect. FACT: The Alaska governor is wrong because the number of troops on the ground is still higher and the number of combat brigades is the same as at the start of the surge in January 2007, according to Pentagon figures. Iraq troop levels before the surge were at 133,500. While U.S. troop levels in Iraq have been in the 142,000 range recently, today they are at around 150,000 because of an ongoing troop rotation.

2. Army General in Afghanistan....Palin misidentified Army Gen. David D. McKiernan, commander of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force, as "McClellan" several times during the debate. At one point Palin said, "First, McClellan did not say definitively that the surge principles would not work in Afghanistan. Certain accounting for different conditions in that country and conditions are certainly different." FACT: The general commanding troops in Afghanistan is McKiernan.

3. Obama's Voting Record on Taxes....Palin argued that Obama has voted to increase taxes 94 times. Palin said, "Barack had 94 opportunities to side on the people's side and reduce taxes and 94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction. Ninety-four times." THE FACTS: The dubious count includes repetitive votes as well as votes to cut taxes for the middle class while raising them on the rich. An analysis by factcheck.org found that 23 of the votes were for measures that would have produced no tax increase at all, seven were in favor of measures that would have lowered taxes for many, 11 would have increased taxes on only those making more than $1 million a year.

4. Increasing Taxes on Families Making $42,000....Palin: "Barack Obama even supported increasing taxes as late as last year for those families making only $42,000 a year." THE FACTS: The vote was on a nonbinding budget resolution that assumed that President Bush's tax cuts would expire, as scheduled, in 2011. If that actually happened, it could mean higher taxes for people making as little as about $42,000. But Obama is proposing tax increases only on the wealthy, and would cut taxes for most others. In the March 14 budget resolution supported by Obama and Biden, McCain actually did not vote.

5. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac....Palin: "Two years ago, remember, it was John McCain who pushed so hard with the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform measures. He sounded that warning bell." THE FACTS: Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska led an effort in 2005 to tighten regulation on the mortgage underwriters — McCain joined as a co-sponsor a year later. The legislation was never taken up by the full Senate, then under Republican control.

6. Oil Industry....Palin claimed she has taken on the oil industry as Alaska governor.
THE FACTS: Palin pushed to impose a windfall profits tax on oil companies and distributed the proceeds to the state's citizens to offset rising energy costs. However, she has also sided with the industry on a number of issues. She sued the Interior Department over its designation of polar bears as an endangered species. That puts her on the same side as the American Petroleum Institute, the oil industry's chief trade association. She also supports the industry's desire to drill in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge — a position at odds with McCain.

7.Pipeline...Palin said Alaska is "building a nearly $40 billion natural gas pipeline, which is North America's largest and most expensive infrastructure project ever to flow those sources of energy into hungry markets." THE FACTS: Not quite. Construction is at least six years away. So far the state has only awarded a license to Trans Canada Corp., that comes with $500 million in seed money in exchange for commitments toward a lengthy and costly process to getting a federal certificate. At an August news conference after the state Legislature approved the license, Palin said, "It's not a done deal."

Should be out on you tube VERY SOON..FOX NEWS SPECIAL [was on 6pm PST]..

Sunday, October 5: **ONE HOUR SPECIAL** Obama & Friends: A History of Radicalism

IF ANYONE OUT THERE CAN UPLOAD THIS TO YOU TUBE,

WE NEED TO GET THIS OUT ~~~ NOW ASAP

Thanks!

Ann & Debbie:
You both are obviously part of the target audience that Fox caters to and I am obviously not--so sorry I can't spend the time particularly on anything O'Hannity does or says. That being said, Ann, how is asking a simple question delusional?

Thank Anne. That program is on again 12mn eastern time. I have it set to record. Thanks for the tip.

YES Debra,

I agree, Journalism HAS OFFICIALLY DIED!

Here is the info..couldn't find it on you tube yet.
Should be out on you tube VERY SOON..FOX NEWS SPECIAL [was on 6pm PST]..

Sunday, October 5: **ONE HOUR SPECIAL** Obama & Friends: A History of Radicalism

IF ANYONE OUT THERE CAN UPLOAD THIS TO YOU TUBE,

WE NEED TO GET THIS OUT ~~~ NOW ASAP

Thanks!

PCL,
It ok to thow remarks against Palin if that is how you want to play your game. Yes it is obvious where are hearts are, God, Family, Country. It is not obvious where your heart is only your head. It appears to be a follower of mainstream media. Use your God given brain and look at the facts.

Just heard on CNN--Obama will answer the attacks on him by the Pitt Bull and the rest of the McCain camp by putting out a 13-minute video on McCain's connection to the Keating 5 starting tomorrow. YES!!! It's about time! Pass it on.

Debra K Thompson11:11PMOct 5th 2008
PCL,
It ok to thow remarks against Palin if that is how you want to play your game. Yes it is obvious where are hearts are, God, Family, Country. It is not obvious where your heart is only your head. It appears to be a follower of mainstream media. Use your God given brain and look at the facts.
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I play the cards I'm dealt. Palin's dealing, I'm willing to up the ante--if you don't like that, tough. Where my heart is has no bearing on any of this--I don't follow the crowd you do, and my crowd wouldn't want you following us either. Fair enough? Mainstream media? What exactly do you mean by that? You think Fox is truly fair and balance? Fox News is a brilliant idea by an Aussie who knew how to make money by tapping into the ignorance that runs rampant in this country. He hired 'journalist' who couldn't make it on REAL news programs to scream and holler over guests that have the audacity to be more intelligent than the fox anchors--which is why those intimidated anchors cut-off those types of guests. Debra, wanna still play?

all of you who hate a woman like Sarah Palin,its either you are a racist,sexist,or jealous of her. She is not only physically beautiful,but beautiful inside.She may not have all the knowledge ofon foreign policy,but like any executive in the world,not everything is known to them,but learned and mastered. Those who learns are the best executives,supervisors,administrators, because they practice what they learn These kind of people do not brag. They are humble not arrogant like Biden and especially Mr. Barack Hussein Muhammed Obama. Mr. Obama is nothing but a person who speaks eloquently but the speech does not have substance. His kind is one who is arrogant,elitist.manipulative, he says things to be elected,although he does not mean them.He says he will only raise taxes on the rich,and will give back taxes to 95% of people. Well,I have news for you people. Obama will give tax credits to 40% of people who do not work,who do not file income taxes,and guess whre that money will come from?THE MIDDLE CLASS.I AM TIRED OIF THIS SHIT,GIVING MONMEY TO PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WORK,AND JUST GETTING AID FROM THE GOVERNMENT. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. THESE PEOPLE SHOULD WORK AND EARN THEIR LIVELIHOOD LIKE OTHERS DO,AND NOT EXPECT THE GOVERNMENT TO GIVE THEM FREEBIES ALL THE TIME!!!!!