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Pennsylvania's 'Racist' Areas
Western Pennsylvania is "racist" and won't embrace Barack Obama easily, Rep. John Murtha said today.
The Pennsylvania Democrat and Obama supporter told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette editorial board that although he
expects the Democratic senator to win Pennsylvania next month, he's going to have a tougher time convincing the older voters in the West.
"I think Obama is going to win, but I don't think it's going to be a runaway," said Murtha, a 17-term Democrat from Johnstown who represents the 12th district, which includes some areas within a 100-mile radius of Pittsburgh.
One reason, he said, is that some voters just aren't quite ready to embrace a black candidate.
"There's no question Western Pennsylvania is a racist area," said Murtha, whose district stretches from Johnstown to Washington County. "The older population is more hesitant."
Military veterans and senior citizens are two groups that have come around to throw their support behind Obama, thanks, in part, to the candidate's amazing organizational skills, Murtha said. The congressman said he sees momentum building in Obama's favor, particularly with the ailing economy.
Pennsylvania's governor, Ed Rendell, and Murtha were both huge Hillary Clinton supporters, as were many Pennsylvanians. Rendell made his own headlines earlier this year when he said there are some conservative whites in Pennsylvania "who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate."
Pennsylvania has been a swing state in every close presidential election for the past 70 years. RealClearPolitics has the state solidly in Obama's favor, 53.4 percent to John McCain's 40 percent.
McCain is campaigning in Pennsylvania tomorrow, as is Michelle Obama. Obama campaigned there over the weekend, and Hillary Clinton stumped for him there this week, as well.
The Pennsylvania Democrat and Obama supporter told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette editorial board that although he
expects the Democratic senator to win Pennsylvania next month, he's going to have a tougher time convincing the older voters in the West."I think Obama is going to win, but I don't think it's going to be a runaway," said Murtha, a 17-term Democrat from Johnstown who represents the 12th district, which includes some areas within a 100-mile radius of Pittsburgh.
One reason, he said, is that some voters just aren't quite ready to embrace a black candidate.
"There's no question Western Pennsylvania is a racist area," said Murtha, whose district stretches from Johnstown to Washington County. "The older population is more hesitant."
Military veterans and senior citizens are two groups that have come around to throw their support behind Obama, thanks, in part, to the candidate's amazing organizational skills, Murtha said. The congressman said he sees momentum building in Obama's favor, particularly with the ailing economy.
Pennsylvania's governor, Ed Rendell, and Murtha were both huge Hillary Clinton supporters, as were many Pennsylvanians. Rendell made his own headlines earlier this year when he said there are some conservative whites in Pennsylvania "who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate."
Pennsylvania has been a swing state in every close presidential election for the past 70 years. RealClearPolitics has the state solidly in Obama's favor, 53.4 percent to John McCain's 40 percent.
McCain is campaigning in Pennsylvania tomorrow, as is Michelle Obama. Obama campaigned there over the weekend, and Hillary Clinton stumped for him there this week, as well.
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Page from the McCain Palin Saga
6:53PM Oct 15th 2008
Matt Taibbi from Rolling Stone deserves a medal for intelligence and grit in absolutely decimating the National Review's Byron York in this interview. It is by far the most methodical deconstruction of right wing economic mythology that I have read thus far on this topic central to our current economic meltdown. You should send this to everyone you know as an example of how one can destroy right wingers by not mincing words with these GOoPers. Good for you, Matt!
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/10/matt_taibbi_and_byron_york_but.html
Matt Taibbi and Byron York Butt Heads Over Whether McCain Deserves Blame for the Wall Street Meltdown
10/14/08 at 1:31 PM
Every day (or close to it) until November 4, a series of writers and thinkers will discuss the election over instant messenger for nymag.com. Today, Rolling Stone's Matt Taibbi and National Review's Byron York argue over the headwinds facing McCain, what Phil Gramm had to do with the financial crisis, and the importance of credit default swaps.
M.T.: So how are you feeling about McCain's chances today?
B.Y.: I've just finished an article for National Review the actual magazine about the headwinds McCain faces. I was going to look at three, and then I started to list them. I stopped at ten. New Gallup numbers out today show that George W. Bush's job approval rating remains at 25 percent, while his disapproval rating has ticked up to 71 percent. How hard is it to succeed a two-term president of your own party who is at 25-71? We don't know because it's never been done.
M.T.: Yeah, that's a damned shame, too. I feel really badly for the guy. I suppose you think the media coverage is also a headwind?
B.Y.: Actually, I did not list media coverage among the headwinds. I listed the succeed-a-two-term-president problem, the right-track/wrong-track problem, the Republican-Democrat-enthusiasm gap problem, the Republican-Democrat-I.D.-gap problem, the financial meltdown, Iraq, Republican gloom on Capitol Hill, Obama's fund-raising advantage, and McCain's historical problems with the GOP base.
M.T.: But all of those "headwinds," or almost all of them, are the direct result of McCain having supported policies that are now unpopular. There is absolute justice in his facing a "headwind" from the financial meltdown, from the unpopularity of the Iraq war, and so on. How is that a "headwind"? That's just self-created unpopularity.
I mean, his onetime campaign co-chair and top economic adviser, Phil Gramm, basically created the credit-default-swap market back in 2000. Why shouldn't he get hammered on the financial crisis?
B.Y.: Did I suggest that headwinds are unfair? But on the financial meltdown in particular, if you're suggesting that that is a Republican creation, or even more specifically a McCain creation, I think you're on pretty shaky ground.
M.T.: You don't think the unregulated CDS market was a major factor in the current crisis? Were you watching when AIG almost went under? Were you watching the Lehman collapse?
B.Y.: I think that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were also major factors. And I believe that many of the problems in the mortgage area can be attributed to the confluence of Democratic and Republican priorities: the Democrats' desire to give mortgages to people, particularly minorities, who could not afford them, and the Republicans' desire to achieve an "ownership society," in part by giving mortgages to people who could not afford them. Again, I believe that if you are suggesting that the financial crisis is a Republican creation, or even more specifically a McCain creation, I think you're on pretty shaky ground.
M.T.: Oh, come on. Tell me you're not ashamed to put this gigantic international financial Krakatoa at the feet of a bunch of poor black people who missed their mortgage payments. The CDS market, this market for credit default swaps that was created in 2000 by Phil Gramm's Commodities Future Modernization Act, this is now a $62 trillion market, up from $900 billion in 2000. That's like five times the size of the holdings in the NYSE. And it's all speculation by Wall Street traders. It's a classic bubble/Ponzi scheme. The effort of people like you to pin this whole thing on minorities, when in fact this whole thing has been caused by greedy traders dealing in unregulated markets, is despicable.
B.Y.: I was struck by the recent Senate testimony of James Lockhart, who is head of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, about the sheer recklessness of Fannie in recent years. Despite "repeated warnings about credit risk," Lockhart testified, Fannie became more reckless in 2006 and 2007 than they had been in the scandal-ridden tenure of Franklin Raines (who departed in 2004). In 2005, Lockhart said, 14 percent of Fannie's new business was in risky loans. In the first half of 2007, it was 33 percent. So something terribly wrong was going on there, and it became a significant part of the present problem.
M.T.: What a surprise that you mention Franklin Raines. Do you even know how a CDS works? Can you explain your conception of how these derivatives work? Because I get the feeling you don't understand. Or do you actually think that it was a few tiny homeowner defaults that sank gigantic companies like AIG and Lehman and Bear Stearns? Explain to me how these default swaps work, I'm interested to hear.
Because what we're talking about here is the difference between one homeowner defaulting and forty, four hundred, four thousand traders betting back and forth on the viability of his loan. Which do you think has a bigger effect on the economy?
B.Y.: Are you suggesting that critics of Fannie and Freddie are talking about the default of a single homeowner?
M.T.: No. That is what you call a figure of speech. I'm saying that you're talking about individual homeowners defaulting. But these massive companies aren't going under because of individual homeowner defaults. They're going under because of the myriad derivatives trades that go on in connection with each piece of debt, whether it be a homeowner loan or a corporate bond. I'm still waiting to hear what your idea is of how these trades work. I'm guessing you've never even heard of them.
I mean really. You honestly think a company like AIG tanks because a bunch of minorities couldn't pay off their mortgages?
B.Y.: When you refer to "Phil Gramm's Commodities Future Modernization Act," are you referring to S.3283, co-sponsored by Gramm, along with Senators Tom Harkin and Tim Johnson?
M.T.: In point of fact I'm talking about the 262-page amendment Gramm tacked on to that bill that deregulated the trade of credit default swaps.
Tick tick tick. Hilarious sitting here while you frantically search the Internet to learn about the cause of the financial crisis in the middle of a live chat interview.
B.Y.: Look, you can keep trying to make this a specifically partisan and specifically Gramm-McCain thing, but it simply isn't. We've gone on for fifteen minutes longer than scheduled, and that's enough. Thanks.
M.T.: Thanks. Note, folks, that the esteemed representative of the New Republic has no idea what the hell a credit default swap is. But he sure knows what a minority homeowner looks like.
B.Y.: It's National Review.
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/10/matt_taibbi_and_byron_york_but.html
Matt Taibbi and Byron York Butt Heads Over Whether McCain Deserves Blame for the Wall Street Meltdown
10/14/08 at 1:31 PM
Every day (or close to it) until November 4, a series of writers and thinkers will discuss the election over instant messenger for nymag.com. Today, Rolling Stone's Matt Taibbi and National Review's Byron York argue over the headwinds facing McCain, what Phil Gramm had to do with the financial crisis, and the importance of credit default swaps.
M.T.: So how are you feeling about McCain's chances today?
B.Y.: I've just finished an article for National Review the actual magazine about the headwinds McCain faces. I was going to look at three, and then I started to list them. I stopped at ten. New Gallup numbers out today show that George W. Bush's job approval rating remains at 25 percent, while his disapproval rating has ticked up to 71 percent. How hard is it to succeed a two-term president of your own party who is at 25-71? We don't know because it's never been done.
M.T.: Yeah, that's a damned shame, too. I feel really badly for the guy. I suppose you think the media coverage is also a headwind?
B.Y.: Actually, I did not list media coverage among the headwinds. I listed the succeed-a-two-term-president problem, the right-track/wrong-track problem, the Republican-Democrat-enthusiasm gap problem, the Republican-Democrat-I.D.-gap problem, the financial meltdown, Iraq, Republican gloom on Capitol Hill, Obama's fund-raising advantage, and McCain's historical problems with the GOP base.
M.T.: But all of those "headwinds," or almost all of them, are the direct result of McCain having supported policies that are now unpopular. There is absolute justice in his facing a "headwind" from the financial meltdown, from the unpopularity of the Iraq war, and so on. How is that a "headwind"? That's just self-created unpopularity.
I mean, his onetime campaign co-chair and top economic adviser, Phil Gramm, basically created the credit-default-swap market back in 2000. Why shouldn't he get hammered on the financial crisis?
B.Y.: Did I suggest that headwinds are unfair? But on the financial meltdown in particular, if you're suggesting that that is a Republican creation, or even more specifically a McCain creation, I think you're on pretty shaky ground.
M.T.: You don't think the unregulated CDS market was a major factor in the current crisis? Were you watching when AIG almost went under? Were you watching the Lehman collapse?
B.Y.: I think that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were also major factors. And I believe that many of the problems in the mortgage area can be attributed to the confluence of Democratic and Republican priorities: the Democrats' desire to give mortgages to people, particularly minorities, who could not afford them, and the Republicans' desire to achieve an "ownership society," in part by giving mortgages to people who could not afford them. Again, I believe that if you are suggesting that the financial crisis is a Republican creation, or even more specifically a McCain creation, I think you're on pretty shaky ground.
M.T.: Oh, come on. Tell me you're not ashamed to put this gigantic international financial Krakatoa at the feet of a bunch of poor black people who missed their mortgage payments. The CDS market, this market for credit default swaps that was created in 2000 by Phil Gramm's Commodities Future Modernization Act, this is now a $62 trillion market, up from $900 billion in 2000. That's like five times the size of the holdings in the NYSE. And it's all speculation by Wall Street traders. It's a classic bubble/Ponzi scheme. The effort of people like you to pin this whole thing on minorities, when in fact this whole thing has been caused by greedy traders dealing in unregulated markets, is despicable.
B.Y.: I was struck by the recent Senate testimony of James Lockhart, who is head of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, about the sheer recklessness of Fannie in recent years. Despite "repeated warnings about credit risk," Lockhart testified, Fannie became more reckless in 2006 and 2007 than they had been in the scandal-ridden tenure of Franklin Raines (who departed in 2004). In 2005, Lockhart said, 14 percent of Fannie's new business was in risky loans. In the first half of 2007, it was 33 percent. So something terribly wrong was going on there, and it became a significant part of the present problem.
M.T.: What a surprise that you mention Franklin Raines. Do you even know how a CDS works? Can you explain your conception of how these derivatives work? Because I get the feeling you don't understand. Or do you actually think that it was a few tiny homeowner defaults that sank gigantic companies like AIG and Lehman and Bear Stearns? Explain to me how these default swaps work, I'm interested to hear.
Because what we're talking about here is the difference between one homeowner defaulting and forty, four hundred, four thousand traders betting back and forth on the viability of his loan. Which do you think has a bigger effect on the economy?
B.Y.: Are you suggesting that critics of Fannie and Freddie are talking about the default of a single homeowner?
M.T.: No. That is what you call a figure of speech. I'm saying that you're talking about individual homeowners defaulting. But these massive companies aren't going under because of individual homeowner defaults. They're going under because of the myriad derivatives trades that go on in connection with each piece of debt, whether it be a homeowner loan or a corporate bond. I'm still waiting to hear what your idea is of how these trades work. I'm guessing you've never even heard of them.
I mean really. You honestly think a company like AIG tanks because a bunch of minorities couldn't pay off their mortgages?
B.Y.: When you refer to "Phil Gramm's Commodities Future Modernization Act," are you referring to S.3283, co-sponsored by Gramm, along with Senators Tom Harkin and Tim Johnson?
M.T.: In point of fact I'm talking about the 262-page amendment Gramm tacked on to that bill that deregulated the trade of credit default swaps.
Tick tick tick. Hilarious sitting here while you frantically search the Internet to learn about the cause of the financial crisis in the middle of a live chat interview.
B.Y.: Look, you can keep trying to make this a specifically partisan and specifically Gramm-McCain thing, but it simply isn't. We've gone on for fifteen minutes longer than scheduled, and that's enough. Thanks.
M.T.: Thanks. Note, folks, that the esteemed representative of the New Republic has no idea what the hell a credit default swap is. But he sure knows what a minority homeowner looks like.
B.Y.: It's National Review.
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milman1
6:50PM Oct 15th 2008
I live in Pittsburgh and have grandparents. It's true older Pennsylvanian's are very homogenious and have hesitation toward change. The center of the state is very rural, the so-called "republican T."
Obama will take Pennsylvania by 10 points in the end, Philly and Pittsburgh will come out strong while the rural Republicans show minimal interest.
Obama will take Pennsylvania by 10 points in the end, Philly and Pittsburgh will come out strong while the rural Republicans show minimal interest.
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(0) David S.
6:53PM Oct 15th 2008
Murtha is a man whose mouth moves ahead of his brain way too much. Nice to know he calls his own constituents "racist." Wonder how they feel about that?!
Punidts are also predicting Virginia for Obama, who leads McCain there by 10 points. Virginia last voted for a Democrat in 1964.
Punidts are also predicting Virginia for Obama, who leads McCain there by 10 points. Virginia last voted for a Democrat in 1964.
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(0) M. Nelson
6:58PM Oct 15th 2008
From Sunday's televised "Meet the Press", Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag. Obama Explains National Anthem Stance....
Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn', USAF (ret.), asked Obama to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
The General also stated to the Senator that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present, except those in uniform, are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. At the very least, "Stand and Face It".
Senator Obama on Sunday stated, "As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides, Obama said. "'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it. "We should consider to reinvent our National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love.
My wife disrespects the Flag for many personal reasons. Together, she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has her views and I have mine".
Our Young men have died for Their Flag and IT Should alway be Honored!!!!!
Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn', USAF (ret.), asked Obama to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
The General also stated to the Senator that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present, except those in uniform, are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. At the very least, "Stand and Face It".
Senator Obama on Sunday stated, "As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides, Obama said. "'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it. "We should consider to reinvent our National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love.
My wife disrespects the Flag for many personal reasons. Together, she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has her views and I have mine".
Our Young men have died for Their Flag and IT Should alway be Honored!!!!!
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(0) tjmx
7:03PM Oct 15th 2008
This man is an embarassment to the Marine Corp and an embarassment to Pennsylvania. I can't believe he would use the race card on his own people. If not voting for Obama makes one a racist then voting for Obama also make one a racist especially if one votes for him because he is black.
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(0) Jim Zac
7:06PM Oct 15th 2008
You have to love that Obama machine! 90% of Blacks plan to vote for Obama. 30% of Whites have announced for Obama. But Whites are the racists!
Conservative Blacks (there are a few) are called Uncle Tom's. Friends of America like ACORN, Soros, Wright, Raines, Farrakhan and Alinsky (to name just a few) want America to elect Neopolitan Obama (Black, White and Red) to avoid charges of racism.
Well, screw them! I'll vote American, thank you. Let Obama collect up his lover, Vera Banks, and return to the land of his father.
Conservative Blacks (there are a few) are called Uncle Tom's. Friends of America like ACORN, Soros, Wright, Raines, Farrakhan and Alinsky (to name just a few) want America to elect Neopolitan Obama (Black, White and Red) to avoid charges of racism.
Well, screw them! I'll vote American, thank you. Let Obama collect up his lover, Vera Banks, and return to the land of his father.
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(0) Michaelene
8:09PM Oct 15th 2008
Again the voters of Pennsylvania have been slandered.
How dare that man get away with it.
I guess it is because he will retire soon and still collect tons of money and benefits from the hard work of his PA constituents.
Please PA, wake up to the thug tactics of the Dem party. They attack their own party!
Screw them all.
Vote against MURTHA and OBAMA.
I dare any other states to be seen as neck and neck in this election.
You too will be called RACIST, BITTER, CLINGING TO YOUR GUNS AND RELIGION!
Maybe like FL and MI, we will have our rights to have our votes counted taken away by some DNC committee.
Perhaps the Dems are angry that PA has joined the other 13 states to investigate ACORN and its unsavory workers (convicts)
I am ashamed that I once called myself a Democrat. Never again!
I'm gonna have to join the party who believes that if you work hard, save your money, sacrifice, buy a home and car you can afford, invest for your future and pay your bills, then you should not have to pay for those who don't!
I am so sick of the bleeding hearts who help themselves first the dole out the crumbs!
How dare that man get away with it.
I guess it is because he will retire soon and still collect tons of money and benefits from the hard work of his PA constituents.
Please PA, wake up to the thug tactics of the Dem party. They attack their own party!
Screw them all.
Vote against MURTHA and OBAMA.
I dare any other states to be seen as neck and neck in this election.
You too will be called RACIST, BITTER, CLINGING TO YOUR GUNS AND RELIGION!
Maybe like FL and MI, we will have our rights to have our votes counted taken away by some DNC committee.
Perhaps the Dems are angry that PA has joined the other 13 states to investigate ACORN and its unsavory workers (convicts)
I am ashamed that I once called myself a Democrat. Never again!
I'm gonna have to join the party who believes that if you work hard, save your money, sacrifice, buy a home and car you can afford, invest for your future and pay your bills, then you should not have to pay for those who don't!
I am so sick of the bleeding hearts who help themselves first the dole out the crumbs!
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(0) Mrs. T.
8:00PM Oct 15th 2008
They better rush ACORN into Western Pennsylvania!
ACORN can strong arm those older AMERICANS to see things their way AND VOTE FOR Obama.
ACORN can round them up at gunpoint and haul them off in the ACORN vans to the polling places to cast their Vote! No Racism here!
ACORN can strong arm those older AMERICANS to see things their way AND VOTE FOR Obama.
ACORN can round them up at gunpoint and haul them off in the ACORN vans to the polling places to cast their Vote! No Racism here!
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(0) Le Wilhelm
8:33PM Oct 15th 2008
Democrats are racist?
Is that what is being said here.
Republicans are going to vote Republican
Demcorats are going to vote Democratic, unless they don't like Obama == racist, I guess.
So I guess all this race talk is about independents and Democrats being racist. Because obviously Republicans are probably not voting for a Democrat especially a left Democrat like Obama.
I'm just trying to clarify who the racist are. I think I got it fellow Democrats and Independents.
Thanks for the help on guys.
Is that what is being said here.
Republicans are going to vote Republican
Demcorats are going to vote Democratic, unless they don't like Obama == racist, I guess.
So I guess all this race talk is about independents and Democrats being racist. Because obviously Republicans are probably not voting for a Democrat especially a left Democrat like Obama.
I'm just trying to clarify who the racist are. I think I got it fellow Democrats and Independents.
Thanks for the help on guys.
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(0) HardCoreRepublican
8:34PM Oct 15th 2008
M. Nelson6:58PMOct 15th 2008
I was intrigued by your post. I did my own research and look what I found:
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama_anthem.htm
Are you still so sure of your 'facts'?
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(0) Clif Kuplen
8:33PM Oct 15th 2008
You have to love that Obama machine! 90% of Blacks plan to vote for Obama. 30% of Whites have announced for Obama. But Whites are the racists!
xxx
when they call Obama a lawn jockey and say all san Franciscans are gay as you do on every blog, racism is the least of 'their' worries.
Fortunately, zitty, you're only aboutr 5% of the vote. But don't worry - even the worst of us can serve as horrible examples.
I'll bet Obama's wiener's bigger than yours too, not just his brain and his stature. How's it feel to be an üntermench?
xxx
when they call Obama a lawn jockey and say all san Franciscans are gay as you do on every blog, racism is the least of 'their' worries.
Fortunately, zitty, you're only aboutr 5% of the vote. But don't worry - even the worst of us can serve as horrible examples.
I'll bet Obama's wiener's bigger than yours too, not just his brain and his stature. How's it feel to be an üntermench?
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(0) joe richards
8:42PM Oct 15th 2008
people of w. penn.....
vote for who will keep the best interests of the american people in mind
i feel it is JSMccain
and you- murtha-
whos the racist?
you're a strong arguement for term limits
wont you just go away?
its no wonder the terrorists want to kill us
with guys like you around
vote for who will keep the best interests of the american people in mind
i feel it is JSMccain
and you- murtha-
whos the racist?
you're a strong arguement for term limits
wont you just go away?
its no wonder the terrorists want to kill us
with guys like you around
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(0) REPLACE-DO-NOTHING-DEMS-IN-CONGRESS
10:09PM Oct 15th 2008
OBAMA NOT FIT! HE IS A SOCIALIST-COMMUNIST!
HE WILL DESTROY OUR COUNTRY!
OBAMA on WHITE people - his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs&feature=related
HOW OBAMA PLANS TO WEAKEN USA - his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRBLi-Th4lk&feature=related
OBAMA on RACISM - his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JlF7wzDh84&feature=related
OBAMA NO EXPERIENCE - his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BnLozS-TnM&feature=related
MICHELLE OBAMA - not fit to be first lady - not proud to be American in her own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMlOKvTZcqM&feature=related
MICHELLE BASHES AMERICANS - her own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BogJvgdH6eo&feature=related
OBAMA AND ACORN relationship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p4inuSaO9M
OBAMAS MENTOR OF 20 YEARS - Rev. Jeremiah in his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tplfWnLe05M&feature=related
VOTE McCAIN/PALIN 2008.
HE WILL DESTROY OUR COUNTRY!
OBAMA on WHITE people - his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs&feature=related
HOW OBAMA PLANS TO WEAKEN USA - his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRBLi-Th4lk&feature=related
OBAMA on RACISM - his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JlF7wzDh84&feature=related
OBAMA NO EXPERIENCE - his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BnLozS-TnM&feature=related
MICHELLE OBAMA - not fit to be first lady - not proud to be American in her own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMlOKvTZcqM&feature=related
MICHELLE BASHES AMERICANS - her own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BogJvgdH6eo&feature=related
OBAMA AND ACORN relationship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p4inuSaO9M
OBAMAS MENTOR OF 20 YEARS - Rev. Jeremiah in his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tplfWnLe05M&feature=related
VOTE McCAIN/PALIN 2008.
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(0) jimbo
9:15PM Oct 15th 2008
A lot of whites ,like myself, are not voting for this man because he happens to be black. We're not voting for him because of who he is and who he associates with. Personally, I don't know enough about him,but what I DO know, I don't like. I don't think he can be trusted. Democrat for McCain.
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(0) NO BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA !
10:13AM Oct 16th 2008
OBAMA HAS BEEN CAMPAIGNING AGAINST PRESIDENT BUSH. WHY???
PRESIDENT BUSH RAN 4 YEARS AGO!
OBAMA HAS BASED HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN ON LIES. HE DOES HAVE TOO MANY
TIES TO TERRORISTS AND ANTI-AMERICANS.
HE HAS LOST ALL CREDIBILITY.
I'M VOTING FOR THE HONORABLE JOHN McCAIN IN NOVEMBER.
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(0) OBAMA-bin-LIAR !
11:21PM Oct 16th 2008
FINALLY LOCATED!!!!!!
THINK YOU CAN HANDLE THE REAL NAKED FBI TRUTH??
HERE ARE THE TOP SECRET FBI FILES ON HARD CORE COMMUNIST SUBVERSIVE AND BISEXUAL CHILD MOLESTER PERVERT FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS.
DAVIS WAS A CARD CARRYING MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY HIS ENTIRE LIFE AND WORKED WITH THE SOVIET UNION TO UNDERMINE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
DAVIS WAS THE PROBABLY THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSON IN BARACK OBAMA'S ENTIRE LIFE PRIOR TO AGE 18. BARACK OBAMA SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH DAVIS DOING DRUGS AND GETTING INDOCTRINATED ON BLACK COMMUNISM.
OBAMA MENTIONS HIM FREQUENTLY AND FONDLY IN HIS WRITINGS.
WARNING: FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS WAS ONE VERY SICK DUDE!!!!!!
http://www.usasurvival.org/marshall.fbi.files.html
http://www.usasurvival.org/marshall.fbi.files.html
VOTE FOR THE HONORABLE JOHN S. McCAIN IN NOVEMBER!
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(0) DavesRaves
12:32AM Oct 16th 2008
I wouldn't take anything Murtha says seriously. The man doesn't have both his oars in the water.
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(0) Jane
2:49AM Oct 16th 2008
M. Nelson6:58PMOct 15th 2008
From Sunday's televised "Meet the Press", Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag. Obama Explains National Anthem Stance....
Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn', USAF (ret.), asked Obama to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
The General also stated to the Senator that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present, except those in uniform, are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. At the very least, "Stand and Face It".
Senator Obama on Sunday stated, "As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides, Obama said. "'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it. "We should consider to reinvent our National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love.
My wife disrespects the Flag for many personal reasons. Together, she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has her views and I have mine".
Our Young men have died for Their Flag and IT Should alway be Honored!!!!!
PA TAKE CARE VOTE FROM YOUR HEART
From Sunday's televised "Meet the Press", Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag. Obama Explains National Anthem Stance....
Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn', USAF (ret.), asked Obama to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
The General also stated to the Senator that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present, except those in uniform, are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. At the very least, "Stand and Face It".
Senator Obama on Sunday stated, "As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides, Obama said. "'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it. "We should consider to reinvent our National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love.
My wife disrespects the Flag for many personal reasons. Together, she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has her views and I have mine".
Our Young men have died for Their Flag and IT Should alway be Honored!!!!!
PA TAKE CARE VOTE FROM YOUR HEART
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(0) Sharon
9:44AM Oct 16th 2008
Barrak Hussein Obama doesn't want anyone to use his middle name! Why? Because it directly associates him to ties of terrorism! So when Obama gets in the White House one could say this: Obama pursues Osama due to the terrorist attacks on 9-11. Obama speaks fluent Arabic!
Obama ties with Wm. Ayers--(the unrepentent terrorist who hit targets in America and who wishes more had been done on 9-11-) lives in Obama's housing mansion addition! This elite housing edition doesn't have any other blacks living in that area! So Obama lives in Wm. Ayers neighborhood--their children go to school together--and on one interview--Obama called him a friend!
How is it that Americans can't see how Obama heard Ayers when he was only 8 years old, yet managed to live in the same elite neighborhood?
Obama says that Ayers didn't influence him at all; however, when Obama refused to wear the American Flag Lapel Pin--was it because Ayers (his friend) stomps on the flag? Obama says our flag is a sign of oppression! If other Americans find the flag so offensive, I FIND IT A DISGRACE! MEN FOUGHT AND DIED TO GIVE US OUR FREEDOM! When American troops in WWII won the battle, they were proud to quickly raise the American Flag as a symbol of victory!
These people who don't like what America is about--wants a leader who has more Muslim and (Nation of Islam) views and philosphies--then come November you will vote and place Obama in our White House! Oh--has America completely lost their minds?
At least, McCain is straight! At least, McCain knows and is proud of America! McCain has seen America in good times and bad times--YET HE DIDN'T condemn this land! McCain is doing his part to keep America free--McCain loves America--America can make the changes in Washington without selling out Americans or being a DICTATORSHIP! Gov. Palin has good values--a strong voice--and when the Obama Camps says--what if something happens to McCain--you want this woman to be your President? To me--Gov. Palin (should anything happen to President McCain--could take the Oval Office--surround herself with great advisors and pick up and make America even better!
Obama is a smooth talker--a charmer--but is not a man America can trust! How many mothers tell their children as they grow up--pick your friends wisely! Because if you pick the wrong crowd--you will be as good as your friends--! Why? Influences you surround yourself with--will cultivate your life!
Obama--is a treacherous individual!
Obama ties with Wm. Ayers--(the unrepentent terrorist who hit targets in America and who wishes more had been done on 9-11-) lives in Obama's housing mansion addition! This elite housing edition doesn't have any other blacks living in that area! So Obama lives in Wm. Ayers neighborhood--their children go to school together--and on one interview--Obama called him a friend!
How is it that Americans can't see how Obama heard Ayers when he was only 8 years old, yet managed to live in the same elite neighborhood?
Obama says that Ayers didn't influence him at all; however, when Obama refused to wear the American Flag Lapel Pin--was it because Ayers (his friend) stomps on the flag? Obama says our flag is a sign of oppression! If other Americans find the flag so offensive, I FIND IT A DISGRACE! MEN FOUGHT AND DIED TO GIVE US OUR FREEDOM! When American troops in WWII won the battle, they were proud to quickly raise the American Flag as a symbol of victory!
These people who don't like what America is about--wants a leader who has more Muslim and (Nation of Islam) views and philosphies--then come November you will vote and place Obama in our White House! Oh--has America completely lost their minds?
At least, McCain is straight! At least, McCain knows and is proud of America! McCain has seen America in good times and bad times--YET HE DIDN'T condemn this land! McCain is doing his part to keep America free--McCain loves America--America can make the changes in Washington without selling out Americans or being a DICTATORSHIP! Gov. Palin has good values--a strong voice--and when the Obama Camps says--what if something happens to McCain--you want this woman to be your President? To me--Gov. Palin (should anything happen to President McCain--could take the Oval Office--surround herself with great advisors and pick up and make America even better!
Obama is a smooth talker--a charmer--but is not a man America can trust! How many mothers tell their children as they grow up--pick your friends wisely! Because if you pick the wrong crowd--you will be as good as your friends--! Why? Influences you surround yourself with--will cultivate your life!
Obama--is a treacherous individual!
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(0) Harry
10:53AM Oct 16th 2008
I'm from PA. and I think Murtha is spot on! As my oldest daughter told me, the only way racism is going to end, is for all the old racist people to die off! How true! The only hope we have is our future generations to realize that our backwards racist parents were wrong!!! My Parents brought me up in a Christian home, so from a baby we were taught, red and yellow, black and white, we are precious in his sight, Jesus loves the little children of the world! No room for racism, because racism breads hate, and if you have hate in your heart, you cant go to Heaven!
How sad is it that I know many older Christians that are flat out racists! Hopefully when they die, Jesus will find it in his heart to save them...
How sad is it that I know many older Christians that are flat out racists! Hopefully when they die, Jesus will find it in his heart to save them...
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