Man, did McCain ever eat it in last night's debate, but the worst might prove to be his gratuitous swipe at women, erasing a goodly chunk of female support that he had little business getting in the first place.
I almost feel bad for him. Somehow, he's managed to get within 20 days of the election without most women being able to identify his position on choice (he's against abortion rights), and without any serious discussion of his and Sarah Palin's terrible record and positions on women's issues. Just as he was about to tiptoe past the women's vote (and the men-who-love-women's vote), he tripped on his shoelaces and dropped the tray of fine porcelain misogyny he'd been carrying.
I can hardly stand to watch it. On top of that, Bob Schieffer outed McCain's "no litmus test "lie: (Transcript via LA Times)
SCHIEFFER: But even if it was someone -- even someone who had a history of being for abortion rights, you would consider them?
MCCAIN: I would consider anyone in their qualifications. I do not believe that someone who has supported Roe v. Wade that would be part of those qualifications. But I certainly would not impose any litmus test.
So, anyone who supports Roe is automatically not qualified. John, that's what we mean by "Litmus Test." We're not saying you're going to dip strips of paper into your judicial nominees. That would be weird.
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I wonder, what color would the paper turn? Red? Blue? Purple? Pink? Interesting thought.
John McCain is, was, and always will be a misogynist. Mocking women's health, calling his wife the "c" word because she joked about his hair loss, and being willing to make women seek back-alley, coat hangar abortions are all clear indications of his disdain for women.
John in Philadelphia OBAMA/BIDEN '08
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Bill Trent
2:32PM Oct 16th 2008
If women are dumb enough to support Obama.. So be it.. They are interested in the Nation, but only for there welfare.
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The Sad Reality
12:17PM Oct 16th 2008
Regarding Joe the Plumber -- It isn't just an extra 3% on the amount over 250,000. You also go back and pay taxes at the new rate on income below 250,000 as they "phase out" deductions, exemptions, etc. Clinton did the same thing in 1993 and he did it retroactively. I was shocked to see that I paid over 55% in federal taxes on any extra money I made in my business. On top of that I also paid State taxes, and of course now there is no cap on Medicare taxes. I also got dinged everytime my employees took out clients for lunch or dinner and had to declare part of that expense as income to me. It was crazy. The tax breaks you all seem to think are there are not if you actually follow the rules like we did. To make a long story short, I became so frustrated that the harder I worked ( Yes 60 to 80 hours a week plus constant travel) yet I kept a smaller amount of the new found income. Eventually we scaled back our operation, layed off about 2/3rds of our employees and now I make less but don't have the hassles. I am more of an average joe now and the 60 people we layed off found other work, (although mostly not in manufacturing, but in lower paying service industries.) You can think I am making this up, but it is a true story. I will never try to "grow" my business again, because it is not worth the hassle or the increased taxes. None of this real life stuff is as easy as bloggers and commenters seem to think,
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jpcinman
12:22PM Oct 16th 2008
John McCain has a history of voting against women's rights and needs. I agree with the above comment's assertions and in fact we discussed this earlier in the week at Patriots For Obama.
I think Roe v. Wade came to the right result with the wrong reasoning. There is no right of privacy implicit in the constitution. This should be a state issue. The change Obama is proposing sounds a lot like socialism: in fact, some of his speeches mirrors those said by Fidel Castro during the revolution. People speak poorly of McCain, but last night clearly indicated to me that he truly is the better man. Obama lacks character and principles--he is so busy trying to win this thing that he doesn't mind who he trumps along the way. What exactly does Obama stand for other than accepting contributions from people like Snoop Dog and Jay-Z; if these are the people that are endorsing Obama then count me out!
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mimi
12:33PM Oct 16th 2008
Don't feel sorry for McCain Mr. Christopher, he will be the next president of this United States.
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Nicole
5:55PM Oct 16th 2008
John,
Your kidding right? Since when has it ever been anyone's right to murder someone else because they are inconvenience by them. I am a woman who is a support of life and loves McCain/Palin ticket because McCain has enough man about him to tell you how is stands without references like (well, we will look at it or no maybe actually do it........ oh wait no this will not happen, uhhh uhh well if it benefits my chances of winning then, well then it's ok).
The issue is the woman's right to shut hers legs or act responsibly and keep herself from becoming pregnant
BTW I am a mother of 3 who would gladly give my life for any of my children, including one inside of me. My life for my child's...
I have a friend that was RAPPED in a foreign country. She said her child that was a result of her rape helped her heal from her very cruel experience. This child is loved by his step father as his own and very happy and healthy at 2 years old.
I have a friend that had an abortion at 16 (her mother drove her there) She hurts every day because of it and now wonders as she looks at her children now, what her aborted child would be like.
So mister man don't tell me how women feel. Because I am a woman. What is easy, it seldom the right thing in the long run.
Who has the right, a judge who over stepped his job description, the woman's body, or the body of the child suctioned apart limb per limb until it's head is crushed and pulled out (silentscream.org). Abortion is torture and a child should be protect from torture.
Because every life matters, even the little ones. Nicole for a better America
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sue
12:45PM Oct 16th 2008
I am a republican, I am for abortion,John McCain is who I will vote for because the alternative is not acceptable. Nobama is a Socialist. He wants to take my money and decide that someone else should have it.He sponsored The Global Poverty Act which will take my tax dollars and hand them to dictators in other countries. We already spend too much elsewhere when our own people need help here.He is weak on National Security and the fact that his mentor was the racist Jeremiah Wright, Father Pflager,and he worked with the American terrorist Wm Ayres and came up in the Chicago politial corruption is all I need. He is glib. he tells people what they want to hear, but not as it is. He wants a Socialist welfare state.Not the type of country I want to live in.
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nevadaninlv
12:55PM Oct 16th 2008
yes , please don't feel sorry for McCain he will be the next president , this Democrat is crossing party lines in November and Voting McCain/Palin My mind hasn't changed.........
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Haymanot
1:00PM Oct 16th 2008
Gina you're quite the idiot...and why can't he receive funds from their likes..they are citizens and they feel he's the best candidate. You must not recall where his campaign funds come from the average joe and jane. Remember that next time you attempt to minimize his supporters. If last nights debate allowed you to come to that conclusion then you are a lost cause. Why don't you enlighten me and tell me exactly what McCain stands for, I seem to have not even gotten that memo throughout his deperation moves in his campaign.
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Triciaaka
1:11PM Oct 16th 2008
Nicole, you, on the surface make a good case for your cause. You have a very well rehearsed spill, but what you have written IMHO is BS and you are trying to sway people into your way of thining. No can do dearie, I had an abortion 25-years-ago, I was raped, beaten and left for dead!
The Gonorrhea and pregnancy that followed caused me to try to take my own life. I had options and I chose what was right for me, and thank God I didn't have to hide in a back alley and feel like I was getting raped again and again by closed minded people that have never been put in this horrid situation!
Sometimes it is easier to paint rosy pictures like yours but I am a real life example of why I feel abortion and discreet health care with a good dose of mental therapy is needed.
"If you could walk a mile in my shoes"
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Rhonda
1:53PM Oct 16th 2008
Nicole,
How many kids did you say you were fostering or had adopted?
You obivously have never had an abortion so you have no right to tell John how women feel either cause you have no clue. You know how your friend feels but that is no qualification for spouting off as if you are the authority on how women feel about anything. You know how you feel.
As a woman and a mother, while I have never had an abortion, I totally support womens right to make that choice. Despite what you try to imply, the majority of women I have known and worked with did not make the choice for "convenience sake". I love how people like you get up on your pulpit but I don't see you adopting and taking care of children that are born literal vegetables who's every day is nothing but suffering. I don't see you adopting children who are born to people that abuse and torture them and they then never are able to bond with people. I spent years fostering children like that. It breaks my heart. So yes, I would rather see a pregnancy terminated than a child born and have to live thru the pain and torture while people like you stand around and say how horrible it is but not lift a finger to do anything about it but offer lip service.
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Emory
1:38PM Oct 16th 2008
I started and ran two different businesses and worked about 80 hours a week while my employees went home and enjoyed their free hours without thinking about work. The first one I closed in the early 80s recession because I had not been able to keep enough of my profit due to taxes and payroll overhead costs to go through the hard times. I had to lay off all employees. The second I closed in 1993 after 11 years when my equipment wore out and I had been unable to make any money to buy new equipment. Again all my employees lost their jobs. Fortunately, I had invested a little money in a little real estate and over a long time of keeping my personal expenses low and doing the upkeep on the property myself (no employees) to save money and putting everything toward paying off the real estate debt, I now am able to make a decent living. I have not gotten rich either way but I have learned that the system does not make it worthwhile to employ people. If you are willing to work a lot of hours but not hire other people and save instead of "living large", you can make it. If the government does not make it easier for small business to accumulate some assets, don't expect small business to be a job growth engine or even maintain jobs. This is something politicians who have never owned a business, college professors in their peachy jobs and liberal news media types have never experienced.
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shayla
1:19PM Oct 16th 2008
mimi and Nevadaninlv:
Please don't feel sorry for McSame instead feel sorry for yourselves that you even think the poor sob has a chance.
Both of you sound as though your'e in the same dream and when you wake up Obama will be PRESIDENT.
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shayla
1:20PM Oct 16th 2008
Gina
Tag your'e OUT.
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Sherrie Faure
1:26PM Oct 16th 2008
Nicole--enough with the drama, whats good for you may not work for someone else. I am a registered nurse and have seen many thing over my 30+ year career. Your self-righteous attitude may be somewhat altered if you could see what I have. Maybe you would be interested in raising all these unwanted childern. Your friends situation is the exception.
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Lillie
1:29PM Oct 16th 2008
all i have to say is, when you trow stone are try to dig a hole for someone else, you will fall in it.stop trowing stones and tell the people who will lead us ino the future. we dont want to here about rev. wright. nor the person American said are not a treat to the united state. people are hurting out here. dont foreget, the people at the botton who cant save there home, nor put food on the table.STOP THE HESAID, SHE SAID.LET AMERICAN SEE YOU MENS ARE ABOVE THAT.ITS NOT FOR YOU ITS FOR ALL PEOPLE.
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Evan
1:29PM Oct 16th 2008
Nicole -- That you're willing to sacrifice your life for the life of your child, more power to you. And that it might be lead to the conclusion that both you and the child dies in the effort, you'll never know. However, making it a death sentence for all women by denying them the choice is not a reasonable solution whatsoever. Your moral highground view that women have to "shut her legs and act responsibly" doesn't work for rape, and believe it or not, birth risk can happen to rape victims as well.
Ask John McCain how often he kept his zipper closed outside the home during his first marriage, he of the "moral highground."
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roxie
1:32PM Oct 16th 2008
I'm 61 years young, independant and sick to my stomach with the distortions, mis-reputations and flat out lies put out by the National Republican Party for the last thirty years. Since the days of Gingrich, it has worsened every year, but never to the LOWS of this year. I left the Republican party because of their tone and the sense I got after the 2000 and 2004 elections that they would do or say anything to win power. I have for years loved and respected John McCain, but the last two years he has lost himself and become the perverbial flip-flopper. after years of preaching against torture and water baording he voted with Bush to allow waterboarding. He voted against the Immigration Bill he and other Senators proposed because he lost support of the party and repeatedly voted with Bush to reduce and revoke our consitutional rights while claiming to be a Federalist. He hired the same people he admonished in 2004 for attacking his wife and family unscrupulously to do the same to Obama. WHO IS JOHN MCCAIN? HOW DO WE TRUST HIM? I could go on and on with a list of changes he's made. I question his judgement on many things but his choice of Palin is the most unpalatable. If he was the real "maverick" he claims to be he would have stood up against he party and chosen Joe Lieberman for VP as he wanted, not Palin who appears to prove daily what a air-head and opportunists she is, placing her in a position to possibly assume the presidency is a frightening thought. Their stance against women's right's are clear and their records prove their distain for our issues. McCains body language was possibly the clearest signal of his attitudes and beliefs; his change and campaign management has lost my vote, but more importantly my respect.
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kd
1:40PM Oct 16th 2008
McCain may not make abortion illegal but he'll never get my vote with those views. I had an abortion 18 years ago and I never regretted it. It was the best decision I ever made at the worst time in my life. I'm so grateful to those who fought for my rights so I didn't die in a back alley like before Roe v. Wade. I was given the choice to do what I wanted with my body, just like Palin's daughter. Nobody wants to have an abortion; they're too expensive and invasive to be a real alternative to birth control. The best solution would be free birth control for women and better education. Triciaaka, I'm with you: It's so easy for people who have never been in that position to talk! I made up my mind when I had an abortion that if just one girl felt like I did, then I'd always fight for a woman's right to choose.