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Obama Wins North Carolina
Obviously, this changes nothing in terms of who won the presidency. But it does mean that Barack Obama's candidacy helped redraw the electoral map even more than anyone thought.
The Associated Press is now giving Obama North Carolina, concluding that there aren't enough uncounted ballots left for John McCain to overcome his lead. That win gives Obama 364 Electoral College votes, with Missouri the only state that's too close to call.
North Carolina has traditionally been a solid red state, along with Virginia and Indiana, which Obama also won.
No Democratic presidential hopeful has won North Carolina since Jimmy Carter in 1976.
Massive black voter turnout aided Obama's win, but he also did significantly better with white voters in the state than John Kerry did in 2004. Obama won 35% of North Carolina's white voters, up from Kerry's 27%, according to exit polls cited by CNN. Obama also showed gains among white voters in South Carolina and Virginia. In the deepo South, however - Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi and Arkansas – his support among white voters dropped significantly.
Political analysts told the NY Times that what's up in the air, though, is whether Obama's gains will have staying power in the South. They said the black and first-time voters who turned up at the polls this year perhaps won't show up next time, particularly when the Bush administration won't be an impetus to get somebody new in office.
"The tide is gone, and the next question is whether he's a successful president or not," said Carter Wrenn, a Republican strategist in Raleigh. "If he is, he'll be fine, and if he's not the gains will be wiped out."
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The Associated Press is now giving Obama North Carolina, concluding that there aren't enough uncounted ballots left for John McCain to overcome his lead. That win gives Obama 364 Electoral College votes, with Missouri the only state that's too close to call.
North Carolina has traditionally been a solid red state, along with Virginia and Indiana, which Obama also won.
No Democratic presidential hopeful has won North Carolina since Jimmy Carter in 1976.
Massive black voter turnout aided Obama's win, but he also did significantly better with white voters in the state than John Kerry did in 2004. Obama won 35% of North Carolina's white voters, up from Kerry's 27%, according to exit polls cited by CNN. Obama also showed gains among white voters in South Carolina and Virginia. In the deepo South, however - Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi and Arkansas – his support among white voters dropped significantly.
Political analysts told the NY Times that what's up in the air, though, is whether Obama's gains will have staying power in the South. They said the black and first-time voters who turned up at the polls this year perhaps won't show up next time, particularly when the Bush administration won't be an impetus to get somebody new in office.
"The tide is gone, and the next question is whether he's a successful president or not," said Carter Wrenn, a Republican strategist in Raleigh. "If he is, he'll be fine, and if he's not the gains will be wiped out."
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Liza Porteus Viana has been a political journalist for almost 10 years, both in Washington and New York. She loves politics - the smell of it, the sport of it...more
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KICKBOXERMOMMA
8:00AM Nov 7th 2008
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tzada
2:15PM Nov 6th 2008
Did he win it? Or did he seize it like he did the other sates, with the help of ACORN and the Black Panthers?
Thousands if not millions think he is not eligible to be president.
Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis
Sign the Petition : 75,274 Letters and Emails Sent So Far
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/
Thousands if not millions think he is not eligible to be president.
Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis
Sign the Petition : 75,274 Letters and Emails Sent So Far
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/
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(0) Dawn
2:41PM Nov 6th 2008
Petition? Seized other states? LOLOLOL!!!! Such sour grapes. You are a total moron.
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(0) Kay
2:50PM Nov 6th 2008
McCain for Secretary of Defense. WHY NOT? It would be great to have an alternative point of view in the White House so that Obama could make his decision based on all the info available. He will be surrounded by anti-war people, so it would be good to at least consider the other side of the arguement.
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(0) JVZaccaro
2:54PM Nov 6th 2008
And the Lord said "Let there be Unity”, and it came to pass. And the Lord said to Barack, "Thou art the chosen leader, thou wilt select a Unifier", and it too, came to pass. And Barack said to Emanuel, "Raum, thou shalt be my Unifier" and Unity swept over the land. The people of America, 300,000,000 strong, men plus women and children and a mixed multitude, with their flocks and herds, set out for the Mountain of Civility
Exodus Chapter 1, Verse 1
And Raum the Unifier set out on a journey to calm the multitudes. And he came upon a city by the river Potomac, and it was known as Washington. And the Unifier said “Let there be Unity”, but it was not to be. And one of the tribe of Washington murmured “Unifier, there is controversy in this land.” And the Unifier proclaimed “F@@k the Republicans, there will be Unity”, and members of the tribe set out to do the work of the Chosen One.
Exodus Chapter 1, Verse 2
And it came to pass that Unity eluded the multitudes. Tribes in the villages of Frank, and ted, and Betty Ann, and DD, and Sue and especially Rias10 could not turn loose of the hatred. And the Lord said, “Barack, Unity is not among us”. And Barack answered “Lord, my father is from the land of Kenya”, “They have not known Unity” And the Lord asked “Where is your Unifier?” And Barack answered “He is on a journey through all regions of the land”“His travels will take him to the Mountain of Civility” and the Lord proclaimed “Let Unity prevail”, but Barack did nothing to rein-in the Unifier. And so it was to be.
Exodus Chapter 1, Verse 3
And Raum of Emanuel traveled far and wide. After a two day journey, he visited the street of Wall, where merchants and money changers were in abundance. He climbed to the highest rooftop to herald the coming of the Chosen One. The money changers murmured “Why hath thou come?” “Thou hath removed great value from the land” “Look, I owned oxen and goats valued at ten Drachma, and now they will bring but nine!” The Unifier protested “I did not cause thy grief, nor did the Chosen One” “It is the fault of those who came before us” But the merchants were uneasy, and they fled to a distant land. And Raum took to his ass, and departed.
Exodus Chapter 1, Verse 4
Exodus Chapter 1, Verse 1
And Raum the Unifier set out on a journey to calm the multitudes. And he came upon a city by the river Potomac, and it was known as Washington. And the Unifier said “Let there be Unity”, but it was not to be. And one of the tribe of Washington murmured “Unifier, there is controversy in this land.” And the Unifier proclaimed “F@@k the Republicans, there will be Unity”, and members of the tribe set out to do the work of the Chosen One.
Exodus Chapter 1, Verse 2
And it came to pass that Unity eluded the multitudes. Tribes in the villages of Frank, and ted, and Betty Ann, and DD, and Sue and especially Rias10 could not turn loose of the hatred. And the Lord said, “Barack, Unity is not among us”. And Barack answered “Lord, my father is from the land of Kenya”, “They have not known Unity” And the Lord asked “Where is your Unifier?” And Barack answered “He is on a journey through all regions of the land”“His travels will take him to the Mountain of Civility” and the Lord proclaimed “Let Unity prevail”, but Barack did nothing to rein-in the Unifier. And so it was to be.
Exodus Chapter 1, Verse 3
And Raum of Emanuel traveled far and wide. After a two day journey, he visited the street of Wall, where merchants and money changers were in abundance. He climbed to the highest rooftop to herald the coming of the Chosen One. The money changers murmured “Why hath thou come?” “Thou hath removed great value from the land” “Look, I owned oxen and goats valued at ten Drachma, and now they will bring but nine!” The Unifier protested “I did not cause thy grief, nor did the Chosen One” “It is the fault of those who came before us” But the merchants were uneasy, and they fled to a distant land. And Raum took to his ass, and departed.
Exodus Chapter 1, Verse 4
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(0) shelia9901
3:28PM Nov 6th 2008
To tzada:
Acorn? Black Panters? Are you real, or just a copy of something completly insane? If all aferican americans were black panthers, you would have less than 15% of the total population. And since acorn usually helps low income folks register to vote as well as advocate for other things, you may be able to get to 17% of the over all population. Just where in the hello do you think the other 83% of the vote came from. You have some real issues and you better deal with them before they consume you. Barack Obama is your president period. Get a grip and get away from the computer.
Acorn? Black Panters? Are you real, or just a copy of something completly insane? If all aferican americans were black panthers, you would have less than 15% of the total population. And since acorn usually helps low income folks register to vote as well as advocate for other things, you may be able to get to 17% of the over all population. Just where in the hello do you think the other 83% of the vote came from. You have some real issues and you better deal with them before they consume you. Barack Obama is your president period. Get a grip and get away from the computer.
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(0) arjun
3:42PM Nov 6th 2008
The anti Obama comments of Tzada are sad. As a McCain supporter I am proud of Tzada's pro MCCain views. But the election is over. Wake up and either support our chosen leader or hibernate for four years and see what happens in 2012.
Our country gets stronger when we are supportive. It weakens when every one like you raise their heads.
Our country gets stronger when we are supportive. It weakens when every one like you raise their heads.
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(0) Tim
3:51PM Nov 6th 2008
Let’s face it – none of us really know what kind of president Barack Obama will turn out to be. And it could happen that despite all of our hopes, he could wind up being a total disaster. I mean, it’s not like it hasn’t happened before.
Think about it:
Wouldn’t it be terrifying if President Obama was repeatedly told about imminent threats against the nation, and he simply dismissed them out-of-hand? And what if the US was attacked, and he just sat in a classroom, reading a kids’ book, because he didn’t know what to do?
Wouldn’t it be just awful if President Obama started ignoring the Constitution, and declared himself unaccountable to anyone? And what if he started cranking out “signing statements”, began pardoning people who were instrumental in outing a covert CIA agent, or allowed White House emails to be deleted in complete defiance of the law? Worse yet, what if he started wiretapping American citizens’ phone calls, and started snooping into their internet activities?
Wouldn’t it be truly dreadful if President Obama lied our country into war, and then started handing out no-bid contracts to war-profiteers who didn’t give a flying fuck about the safety of our troops if it cut into their obscene profits?
Wouldn’t it be downright disillusioning if President Obama poured billions into an unwinnable war while our infrastructure, our schools, our hospitals and our entire economy were left in complete ruin?
Wouldn’t it be devastating if President Obama encouraged the deregulation of everything from banking practices to the inspection of food coming into the country?
Wouldn’t it be profoundly disturbing if President Obama continued on one of his many vacations while a major US city was wiped-out by a natural disaster? And what if he completely ignored the victims of said disaster in the aftermath, and just allowed them to die?
Wouldn’t it be absolutely disastrous if President Obama appointed incompetent cronies to important positions, like Attorney General? And what if his appointee started purging the department of experienced, competent people based solely on their political affiliation?
Wouldn’t it be morally reprehensible if President Obama condoned the use of torture, or the unlimited detention of people without charge or trial?
Wouldn’t it be an incredible outrage if President Obama insisted on tax subsidies for corporations making record profits, or tax incentives for companies that outsourced American jobs?
Wouldn’t it be unbelievably humiliating if President Obama consistently made a fool of himself in public settings, and became the punchline of every late-night monologue due to his ignorance, his inability to speak coherently, and his drunken displays at international meetings of import?
Wouldn’t it be overwhelmingly embarrassing if the stature of the United States was irreparably harmed every time President Obama opened his mouth and proved how God damned stupid he was in front of the entire world?
Wouldn’t it be fantastically detrimental if President Obama was deliberately divisive at a time when the country most needed to come together? And what if he started saying things like “You’re either with us or against us” and you knew he meant YOU were against your own country if you didn’t just toe-the-line and accept his way of thinking?
Wouldn’t YOU find it totally unacceptable if President Obama did any of the above?
Well, I’m sure YOU would – and I have no doubt that if President Obama even thinks about doing any of the aforementioned, we will be hearing from ALL OF YOU immediately.
That’s because real Americans don’t bow their heads and accept such behavior without speaking up, despite being called anti-American, terrorist-loving appeasers, non-patriots and socialist freaks.
Despite your abject silence over the last eight years, I am sure you will suddenly find your voices again, at-the-ready to decry even a perceived affront to your rights, your freedoms, and your liberty as citizens.
What a pity it will be eight years too late.
by NanceGreggs
Think about it:
Wouldn’t it be terrifying if President Obama was repeatedly told about imminent threats against the nation, and he simply dismissed them out-of-hand? And what if the US was attacked, and he just sat in a classroom, reading a kids’ book, because he didn’t know what to do?
Wouldn’t it be just awful if President Obama started ignoring the Constitution, and declared himself unaccountable to anyone? And what if he started cranking out “signing statements”, began pardoning people who were instrumental in outing a covert CIA agent, or allowed White House emails to be deleted in complete defiance of the law? Worse yet, what if he started wiretapping American citizens’ phone calls, and started snooping into their internet activities?
Wouldn’t it be truly dreadful if President Obama lied our country into war, and then started handing out no-bid contracts to war-profiteers who didn’t give a flying fuck about the safety of our troops if it cut into their obscene profits?
Wouldn’t it be downright disillusioning if President Obama poured billions into an unwinnable war while our infrastructure, our schools, our hospitals and our entire economy were left in complete ruin?
Wouldn’t it be devastating if President Obama encouraged the deregulation of everything from banking practices to the inspection of food coming into the country?
Wouldn’t it be profoundly disturbing if President Obama continued on one of his many vacations while a major US city was wiped-out by a natural disaster? And what if he completely ignored the victims of said disaster in the aftermath, and just allowed them to die?
Wouldn’t it be absolutely disastrous if President Obama appointed incompetent cronies to important positions, like Attorney General? And what if his appointee started purging the department of experienced, competent people based solely on their political affiliation?
Wouldn’t it be morally reprehensible if President Obama condoned the use of torture, or the unlimited detention of people without charge or trial?
Wouldn’t it be an incredible outrage if President Obama insisted on tax subsidies for corporations making record profits, or tax incentives for companies that outsourced American jobs?
Wouldn’t it be unbelievably humiliating if President Obama consistently made a fool of himself in public settings, and became the punchline of every late-night monologue due to his ignorance, his inability to speak coherently, and his drunken displays at international meetings of import?
Wouldn’t it be overwhelmingly embarrassing if the stature of the United States was irreparably harmed every time President Obama opened his mouth and proved how God damned stupid he was in front of the entire world?
Wouldn’t it be fantastically detrimental if President Obama was deliberately divisive at a time when the country most needed to come together? And what if he started saying things like “You’re either with us or against us” and you knew he meant YOU were against your own country if you didn’t just toe-the-line and accept his way of thinking?
Wouldn’t YOU find it totally unacceptable if President Obama did any of the above?
Well, I’m sure YOU would – and I have no doubt that if President Obama even thinks about doing any of the aforementioned, we will be hearing from ALL OF YOU immediately.
That’s because real Americans don’t bow their heads and accept such behavior without speaking up, despite being called anti-American, terrorist-loving appeasers, non-patriots and socialist freaks.
Despite your abject silence over the last eight years, I am sure you will suddenly find your voices again, at-the-ready to decry even a perceived affront to your rights, your freedoms, and your liberty as citizens.
What a pity it will be eight years too late.
by NanceGreggs
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(0) sabastion
3:56PM Nov 6th 2008
Seems to me Chairman NObama should have won every state! With people voting 70 times or more and going from state to state Voting do to Acorn and the black Panthers. Your a fraud Obama. You did nothing to stop any of this. You may have won with your cheeting. Just like you did to win the Iowa Caucus against hillary by bringing in people from Illinois to caucus illigaly! You may have one. But, it's America who lost! Shame on any of you who drank the Kool-aid this Socialist Pig was giving out!
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(0) anny
4:06PM Nov 6th 2008
sabastion, it's "cheating" not "cheeting," and "illegally" not "illigaly." Clearly by your statements you are a moron, but your computer must have spell check.
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(0) JVZaccaro
4:06PM Nov 6th 2008
GOVERNMENT BENEFITS
Unless retirement benefits are denied by fellow members of Congress, former Senators and Representatives receive full pensions, even convicted felons, when they leave Congress. And to think, Barack pledged for common American citizens to have benefits "....just like we have in Congress."
I can just see prisoners with life sentences in penitentiaries across the land rejoicing.
When the government decided to go after the CEO’s of companies involved in the recent round of bailouts, they (we) also assumed the liability for legal fees to defend the same CEO’s. We, the taxpayers, are in the unenviable position of paying lawyers to prosecute and defend the same individuals!
You gotta love the bureaucratic approach to problem solving!
Unless retirement benefits are denied by fellow members of Congress, former Senators and Representatives receive full pensions, even convicted felons, when they leave Congress. And to think, Barack pledged for common American citizens to have benefits "....just like we have in Congress."
I can just see prisoners with life sentences in penitentiaries across the land rejoicing.
When the government decided to go after the CEO’s of companies involved in the recent round of bailouts, they (we) also assumed the liability for legal fees to defend the same CEO’s. We, the taxpayers, are in the unenviable position of paying lawyers to prosecute and defend the same individuals!
You gotta love the bureaucratic approach to problem solving!
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(0) Ms. Gadson
1:57AM Nov 7th 2008
Sabastion is a moron. He can't spell either.
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(0) Rosa
4:09PM Nov 6th 2008
This is in reply to KAY: McCain potrayed OBAMA as a terroist, Muslin, socialist..........and you want McCain to have a high position???? What meds are you on?
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(0) GUESSWHAT
4:12PM Nov 6th 2008
This is very creepy.
Chris Matthews stated today that “his job” is to make an Obama presidency a success.
Isn’t the job of MSNBC and its employees to report the news?
When did it become the job of on-air figures like Matthews to make a president successful?
"HTE BEGINNING OF STATE TV"
That’s what they do in Cuba, Venezuala, North Korea, and Russia.
This state TV business has to be nipped in the bud, people.
"OBAMA GETTING READY FOR SOCILAISM CONTROL OF AMERICA"
THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING FOLKS!! THIS IS OBAMA'S "CHANGE" FOR AMERICA!!! GET READY!!!
YOUR 401k IS NEXT, OBAMA IS TAKING OVER YOUR 401k AND
COMBINING WITH SOCIAL SECURITY FOR EQUAL DISTRIBUTION.
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(0) dr jay
5:12PM Nov 6th 2008
>Chris Matthews stated today that “his >job” is to make an Obama presidency a
>success.
>
>Isn’t the job of MSNBC and its employees
>to report the news?
"The job of MSNBC" is to get as many viewers as possible for its advertisers. The job of its *reporters* is to report the news, but Chris Matthews isn't a reporter and has never (in his current job) claimed to be. He's an opinion "columnist" and interviewer, so his job is to speak his mind and interview people. Same as, oh, Sean Hannity's, Bill O'Reilly's, Rush Limbaugh's, ....
>success.
>
>Isn’t the job of MSNBC and its employees
>to report the news?
"The job of MSNBC" is to get as many viewers as possible for its advertisers. The job of its *reporters* is to report the news, but Chris Matthews isn't a reporter and has never (in his current job) claimed to be. He's an opinion "columnist" and interviewer, so his job is to speak his mind and interview people. Same as, oh, Sean Hannity's, Bill O'Reilly's, Rush Limbaugh's, ....
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(0) Rebg39lov
6:25PM Nov 6th 2008
Tim/NanceGreggs
WOW! It's almost as if you read my mind! These are the same things I have been saying for years.
WOW! It's almost as if you read my mind! These are the same things I have been saying for years.
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(0) pris
6:38PM Nov 6th 2008
Unfortunately there are always going to be those who refuse to see or accept the truth. For the first time in 8 years i have hope for this country. I just pray that the bush administration and the rest of the "right wing" have not damaged it beyond repair. President Elect Obama will do a wonderful job of leading this country,it is just too bad he is inheriting such a terrible mess,courtesy of the very ones that are still spreading lies,and complaining. They have a lot of nerve after shoving Bush and Company on the Whole World with the 2000 and 2004 elections.
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(0) mj
7:28PM Nov 6th 2008
I wish we could find out how many blacks voted for obama and how many whites voted for him... from what i was told they went and got people and drove them to the polls.. even those in nursing homes that were clueless on who either one of them were... way to go obama.. now thats a fair election!!! wow can't wait to tell my granchildren just how the first black prez actually won..... saw it on TV by the way.. the dancing in the streets was PRICELESS!!! not about race my butt!!!!
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(0) Crystal
8:32PM Nov 6th 2008
In an Obama administration, your taxes will go up, and you'll be footing the bill for those who don't pay taxes but will receive a check in the mail. Union members will no longer be able to vote privately (card check) - radio talk show host's will have to give even coverage to both parties (I wish they would apply that to MSNBC TV), Rev. Wright will be appointed Ambassador Of Good Will, William Ayers will be appointed Architect To Improve Government Building's and Jesse Jackson won't be allowed in the door because he spoke his mind and that's no longer allowed.
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(0) ivan
8:37PM Nov 6th 2008
Smile now, cry later. Revolution is the only solution. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, suckers.
- Radical Conservative Agrarian Front (RadCAF)
- Radical Conservative Agrarian Front (RadCAF)
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