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Michael KraskinSupreme Court Not Considering Obama's Birth Certificate Case
Or so the "birthers" would like to believe.
They're a tad mistaken, though. That's because the authenticity question over of Obama's birthplace document has been put to rest innumerable times.
No, the question before the court today is not whether Obama was born in the U.S., it's whether that birth makes him a natural born citizen. The argument brought by Leo Donofrio goes like this:
"Don't be distracted by the birth certificate and Indonesia issues. They are irrelevant to Senator Obama's ineligibility to be President. Since Barack Obama's father was a Citizen of Kenya and therefore subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of Senator Obama's birth, then Senator Obama was a British Citizen 'at birth', just like the Framers of the Constitution, and therefore, even if he were to produce an original birth certificate proving he were born on US soil, he still wouldn't be eligible to be President.
The Framers of the Constitution, at the time of their birth, were also British Citizens and that's why the Framers declared that, while they were Citizens of the United States, they themselves were not "natural born Citizens".
Got it? The argument is that even if he was born in the U.S., his daddy was an immigrant, so he can't be president. Donofrio in fact "concedes Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii."
Also, the Supreme Court isn't hearing the case, they are deciding whether to hear the case.
So, sorry birthers, no closure for you today. But hey, just for fun, here's a poll.
And here's a real poll.
*FUN FACT! The term "birther" seems to have originated in the Digg community. Check out the fourth comment.
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RIGHTY
8:57AM Dec 5th 2008
If you're one of millions that wonder how this clown was elected leader of the free world, then take a peek at the posted site and get ready to be really pissed.
www.howobamagotelected.com
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RIGHTY
8:59AM Dec 5th 2008
www.howobamagotelected.com
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(-1) Dapylil
9:04AM Dec 5th 2008
The right wing loonies hate the legal system, except when they don't get their own way (i.e. 2000 election, etc.). I have followed this crazy web that Leo Donofrio has tried to spin. It reminds me of the twists, turns, and tangles that the Bush administration has used to justify the war in Iraq. WMD? OK, no WMD, then it was to get rid of a tyrant. He's gone, OK, it was to bring freedom and democracy. They voted? Well, it was to bring stability in the Middle East.
When you're gonna do what you wanna do, then any old lie will work, and the sheep will follow.
When you're gonna do what you wanna do, then any old lie will work, and the sheep will follow.
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(2) foxyladi14
9:21AM Dec 5th 2008
why is bo spending so much money to keep the truth from coming out.
just tell the truth bo..
just tell the truth bo..
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(0) Steve Seivers
9:59AM Dec 5th 2008
Clarence Thomas brought this before the court.
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(-1) Lani
10:00AM Dec 5th 2008
This is seriously the most pathetic conspiracy theory. Being from the islands it's just an insult to us. Obama was born in Hawaii, and his Birth Certificate has been viewed by Linda Lingle who is a Republican, some notable far right websites, and Hawaii officials, all have said it's valid. Now, the wacky people who I think are just bigots are now saying it's because his dad wasn't an American. That is like saying my bf isn't an American because his mother was born in Japan, and she met his father an American in Hawaii... MY BF IS AN AMERICAN, JUST LIKE OBAMA. Seriously, you nutcases need to just end your life, without intelligence what is the point of living, It's such a disgrace that there are so much stupid nutcases out there.
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(1) Jenn
10:10AM Dec 5th 2008
What losers... this is why I'm an independent voter, because people on both sides are just so crazy. This time it's the far right trying to grasp for anything, and to invent something. I also think it's funny how they are so for the Governor Arnie and want him to run one day, and Arnie wasn't even born in the US. Mean while you have John McCain who was born i Panama. I just think this whole thing is a joke, and it's insulting. The far right are looking like the biggest conspiracy nut-sore losers. It's very insulting to people who were born in the US and one parent is an immigrant. It just goes to show you how racist people are. This is coming from a Caucasian person.
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(0) Jim
10:19AM Dec 5th 2008
Evan if this were proven to be true, I don't believe the Supreme Court would act on it solely to avoid backlash (riots) from minorities.
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(0) Jim
10:22AM Dec 5th 2008
Evan = Even. my bad
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(0) Dan
10:28AM Dec 5th 2008
Righty - you are a certified moron in pathetic denial. Get over the fact that an ethnically diverse liberal got elected, and SHUT UP.
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(1) Dotty Hack
10:36AM Dec 5th 2008
I an so surprised by some Americans.Who in the hell was the sorriest president in all of them. The STUPID one about to leave the White House. GEORGE BUSH-- You ass ,Righty. Go back to your rotten hole and Shut UP!!
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(1) Voice of Reason
10:45AM Dec 5th 2008
OMG...the wacko's will blow a gasket
uh...how can i make Donoshi-oh work?
Obama was born in Hawaii...losers...LOL
helmets on folks...tomatoes at the ready ... D-Day starting December 6...the vast left wing conspiracy will begin the tomato assault that will shame you all under the rock from whence you came
i just can't wait for it...it is like we get two Christmas's this year
why would you want two defeats within 30 days?
not sure why, but deliverance...LOL
*dueling banjo's*
♫ ba-da bang ♫
♫bang♫
♫bang♫
♫bang♫
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LOL
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uh...how can i make Donoshi-oh work?
Obama was born in Hawaii...losers...LOL
helmets on folks...tomatoes at the ready ... D-Day starting December 6...the vast left wing conspiracy will begin the tomato assault that will shame you all under the rock from whence you came
i just can't wait for it...it is like we get two Christmas's this year
why would you want two defeats within 30 days?
not sure why, but deliverance...LOL
*dueling banjo's*
♫ ba-da bang ♫
♫bang♫
♫bang♫
♫bang♫
♫bang-bang♫
♫bang♫
LOL
;-)
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(2) Voice of Reason
10:48AM Dec 5th 2008
really, really, really sad & pathetic people that can GET OVER IT...
you guys must have never played sports or were the kids that nobody ever picked on the playground because you didn't understand fair play....
you must win with as much grace as you lose with...you ALWAYS shake the hand of the opponent ...then look him in the eye and say "next time"
you guys must have never played sports or were the kids that nobody ever picked on the playground because you didn't understand fair play....
you must win with as much grace as you lose with...you ALWAYS shake the hand of the opponent ...then look him in the eye and say "next time"
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(1) Voice of Reason
10:56AM Dec 5th 2008
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(0) MARY
11:07AM Dec 5th 2008
Hello. Obama has a birth mother who was a U.S. citizen, therefore he is a U.S. Citizen. Just because his father is black and he is seen as only black by some doesn't rule out the fact that his mother may be dead but so is mine and that means he really is a citizen by birth. His mother is his NATURAL MOTHER. PERIOD.
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(2) Independentthinker
11:14AM Dec 5th 2008
Seems to me that Barry Soetoro Barack Hussein Obama has not done a very good job of "bringing the nation together" so far. All he has to do is bring all of this controversy to an end by addressing these issues publicly. It Does not matter if the supreme court hears the case or not. Which ever way they rule the the controversy will not be over. Our once great nation is in a shambles and it will continue on this path until we vote in a true statesman who exercises political leadership wisely and without narrow partisanship.
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(-2) Sandy
11:15AM Dec 5th 2008
foxyladi149:21AMDec 5th 2008
why is bo spending so much money to keep the truth from coming out.
just tell the truth bo..
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WHAT MONEY HAS HE SPENT? I HAVE NOT SEEN HIS NAME ON ANY LAWSUIT!
why is bo spending so much money to keep the truth from coming out.
just tell the truth bo..
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WHAT MONEY HAS HE SPENT? I HAVE NOT SEEN HIS NAME ON ANY LAWSUIT!
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(0) longwalker
11:16AM Dec 5th 2008
I am as about as right-wing a Republican as you can get. I am also a lawyer.
If Barrack Obama was born in Hawaii or any other state in the United States, it would not matter whether his parents were US citizens, citizens of other countries or illegal aliens - he would be a natural born citizen of the United States under our laws.
The question of citizenship only arises if he was born outside of the United States.
Some of his relatives in Kenya have stated that he was born in Kenya. If so, he could still be considered a natural born citizen based upon his mother's status at the time of his birth. The statutory language is very explicit and there is a slight possibility that, if born in Kenya, Barrack would not meet the statutory requirement to be considered a natural born citizen.
The problem is that President-elect Barrack Obama has not provided the "best evidence" of his birth - the actual birth certificate but has, instead, provided a certificate of live birth.
Under the law of the state of Hawaii, a person born overseas can be given a certificate of live birth. It is quite common for children and, in some cases, adults to be given a certificate of live birth although they were not born in Hawaii.
If Barrack Obama was born in Hawaii or any other state in the United States, it would not matter whether his parents were US citizens, citizens of other countries or illegal aliens - he would be a natural born citizen of the United States under our laws.
The question of citizenship only arises if he was born outside of the United States.
Some of his relatives in Kenya have stated that he was born in Kenya. If so, he could still be considered a natural born citizen based upon his mother's status at the time of his birth. The statutory language is very explicit and there is a slight possibility that, if born in Kenya, Barrack would not meet the statutory requirement to be considered a natural born citizen.
The problem is that President-elect Barrack Obama has not provided the "best evidence" of his birth - the actual birth certificate but has, instead, provided a certificate of live birth.
Under the law of the state of Hawaii, a person born overseas can be given a certificate of live birth. It is quite common for children and, in some cases, adults to be given a certificate of live birth although they were not born in Hawaii.
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(-2) Tony
11:18AM Dec 5th 2008
He was born in Hawaii. Anyone born in the United States is a U.S. citizen from birth. Let's review the 14th Amendment: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." Read that carefully again, Right Trash: ALL PERSONS BORN...IN THE UNITED STATES...ARE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES...
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(1) The Seeker
11:25AM Dec 5th 2008
Is there one liberal ( Socialist ) in this country that can have an intelligent debate without acting like a 6th grader? Without insulting others? Without name calling? I thought the socialist I mean liberals where the party of tolerance. What a joke. Hitler, Goebbels, Stalin and Mao would be so proud of you guys. Why, I think I hear Mussolini weeping in his grave. You guys make me want to puke.
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