Party Poopers: Dean, Pelosi, Reid, and Conyers Turn on Obama?

On Jan. 20, 2009 Obama will be seated as the first president who does not meet Article 2 Section 1 of the United States Constitution. I can't understand why this doesn't concern the U.S. Supreme Court, Congres, the Senate or the American People. However the American people didn't seem to mind all of his low life freinds conection or his lack of experience. They just wanted a rock star president. How sad!

Oh, the drama.......this may be a good sign....

Feds sue New Black Panthers for voter intimidation

Members at polling place allegedly to make sure black won election

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85626

I don't think there is anything surprising about this. Democrats have always said that Congress should exercise oversight of the Executive Branch, and that was something the rubber stamp Republican Congress TOTALLY failed to do. If the Republicans had exercised their oversight responsibility we might not be in the mess we are now. At least Obama and the Congressional Democrats are doing their job, something Bush and the Republican Congress utterly failed to do.

Obama's doing just fine, and his attitude is one we've sorely needed for a long time. Lively debate as envisioned by our forefathers, with no insistence on one's own way to the total exclusion of every other opinion.

How truly weird it would be to live in a never never land where everyone agreed on any enormously complex subject.

Politicians are fickle. Obama has thrown several under the bus when there was no need for them anymore. Nothing....absolutely nothing surprises me. Each person is for him/herself. The definition of unity is apparently unknown.
Obama has been too big for his britches from day one with the media & DNC promoting an "image". Now reality is sinking in & the picture changes. Is that the "change" that was emphasized for months on end? This is called "getting nowhere fast." Big ideas do not necessarily mean solutions. We Americans want answers & something constructive to be accomplished.
"There can only be one president at a time," says you-know-who. The way I see it Bush is STILL the president & he is being swept under the carpet. May I add that I am no supporter of the present administration. Obama continues to talk out of both sides of his mouth. This time fickle politicians aren't falling for it. It seems that the honeymoon is already over. Bad marriage????

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Joyce - "The way I see it Bush is STILL the president & he is being swept under the carpet."

Joyce, yes Bush is still president and NO he is not being swept under the carpet. He has chosen to stop acting like a president. Haven't you noticed except for the Presidential lunch that BUSH has been AWOL. He at this time is more interested in partying with his frat boys than he is in running this country. He is now taking a "so-what attitude" about everything that is going on and although we do only have 1 president at a time, Bush seems to forget that until January 20, that is still him. His only interest at this time seems to be to make sure that he is legally able to issue blanket pardons and immunity (before they are even charged with anything)to the following -the three communication companies that helped him spy on American Citizens, Karl Rove, Harriet Meirs, Dick Cheney, Gonzalez, Ashcroft, Condi Rice, and the rest of his team to insure that they can never be forced to testify or be prosecuted for their actions while in the White House under Bush. He is making himself insignificant.

SAVE THE ECOMONY. IMPEACH THEM ALL. THEY WERE THE ONES THAT THE PEOPLE PICKED TO SERVE US, AND THEY HAVE FAILED. WE NEED PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WORK FOR US 24/7, NOT A LOT OF PART-TIME POLITICIANS THAT WOULD RATHER FIGHT AMONG THEMSELVES, THAN HAVE TO WORK TO HELP THE COUNTRY.

This is a very republican way of looking at it. Republicans see any open questioning of a leader as a sign that there are serious flaws, because these questions would have been asked in private otherwise so as not to seem disloyal.

But that's not how Democrats do things. For the Democrats open questioning is a way of showing the public that they are pragmatically thinking of the best solution for the problem. For the democrats Obama just seems stronger for this. A leader who isn't questioned is seen as a *weak* leader (much as Bush was) who can't respond to a crisis and can't convince people of his position.

Democrats don't have a problem with one of their own questioning -- they take it as an opportunity to weigh out the sides. It's the *quality* of the questions that are important, not that they exist at all. And actually, Obama is coming out very very strong -- no real attacks at all. The honeymoon is most definitely on.

Hmmmm

"ditto"

very well stated
;-)

i understand why Bush has been absent...thank you (still) President Bush
;-)

David Knowles says that Obama is acting more presidential than the current President. How? By fear mongering? He told the American people, basically, that his stimulus plan wouldn't totally solve our economic problems and that the situation would probably be bleak for a long time.

I thought that 750 billion dollar bailout of the banks was supposed to jump start the economy. They were in such a hurry to get it approved so the banks could start lending again. Well, the banks aren't lending. They're hoarding all that money.

Now he wants another stimulus plan, even more expensive than the one before. This is lunacy! We can't spend our way into prosperity! Debt and more debt is what's got us into this mess. Printing more money isn't the answer, either. It devalues our currency in the financial markets.

Winston Churchill once said that..."for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to pull himself out by the handle."

Obama has been strangely silent about the crises in Gaza. He gives a pathetic excuse about one President at a time. Well, he said a lot about the recent disaster in Mumbai, but he can't comment on the Hamas-Israel conflict?

Wars don't wait for inaugurations.

Give Me A Break, pls.
Goodness, Dems are discussing stuff and aren't in lock step march - like a previous unnamed controlling party.

Oh, that's right it was the Republemming Party.

Don't you just love in-fighting !

Where is Pelosi with her "culture of corruption?"
She had a lot say about a lot of people.
how about:
The Gov of NY / Spitzer
The Gov of Illinois / Blago
The Gov of New Mexico / Richardson
Charlie Rangell
Kwanee Brown
And last but not least the Demi with $90,000
in his freezer? I am dying to hear his attorney's explanation.
Mrs. Pelosi is as quiet as can be!

I never felt there was a "honeymoon". Many here have said it very well including the fact that the Democratic Party has always allowed discussion, and the fact that total agreement got us into this mess with the first 6 years of the Bush regime. We have all been screwed by the deregulation they allowed. Discussion between members of one party is just as important as discussion between members of "opposite" parties. What's the big deal?

"Republemming Party" - too funny Dan!

To All Americans,

I am sorry to interupt this disscusion thread but this is extremely important.


This is not about sore losers, this is not about race. This about the
very foundations of our Nation and the defending the Constitution.
This is not about fear of change. I for one do not fear change but
only fear change that is not given the careful consideration our
founding fathers would have afforded it. This is about America and
the ability of our military to defend her and possibly much more as I, a US military officer,
am just beginning myself to see the potential problems that may be
facing us. Before you discard any of this information please take take the time to verify on ONLY OFFICIAL US Government sources such as the site for our United States Supreme Court.


FACT: Chief Justice John G. Roberts has agreed to hear Bowen vs
Lightfoot. A case challenging the constitutional qualifications of
Barak H. Obama aka Barry Soetoro to be POTUS. Check the court Docket.

Comment- If he did not think we have a problem he would not hear
this issue let alone give it to the full court to read. He does not
want to look dumb or waste the time of the court after all he is the
Chief.

FACT; Congress did not listen and hear this very loud signal he sent to
them yesterday but it
rang a shot through the United States Armed Forces
more like a loud bomb. They listen.

Fact: Unfortunately you will have to take this as true on its merits.
But I
will assure you The Joint Chiefs as military officers take the
constitution very
seriously and are not stupid people.

FACT: If only ONE of the Joint Chiefs of Staff balks we lose an
entire arm of our military ! He can not nor will not give the order to
move if he has a reason to question the validity of that order. In fact he himself is by bound to not do this!! Support and defnd the constitution. Chief Justice Roberts has Just told them by agreeing to hear this case
he may have a very good reason indeed.

I think you need to stop doing what you are doing NOW, I mean right now
and join us in demanding congress to recall and settle this issue.
Call right now, do whatever you can. I hope and pray for the the sake
of
this this great Nation people
wake up.


*****The words of JOE BIDEN when he warned of a international crisis
soon
after Obama took office may indeed come back to us. ****** Have you
already forgotten ????? Listen to what he said. .

AND he thinks
Barak can handle it. DO you ??? Try it without the Navy or maybe the
Air Force or
maybe the Army or many ALL of them. I suppose some of you out there
still believe in a Superman. Reality check. He was a comic book
character and Obama is not a Superman like some of you believe. Wake
up.

We are not asking Obama for the moon only that he give us some additinal information to be assure us he is who he says he is. This is reasonable and prudent but he is refusing and everything.

and so it begins.

yah some stimulis program.

$500.00 a year per person divided by 12 months comes to $41.66 a month then divided by 4 weeks is equal to $10.41 or by 4.5 weeks equals $9.25 which averages out to 23 to 26 per working hour, on a 40 hour week.

and that only applies to our taxes next year, a whole year from now, and many of you who defended The Big ZERO said we who were not voting for the big ZERO were wrong on these amounts, yet they are exactly what The Big ZERO laid out yesterday. turns out we were right after all

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM wonder what else we were right on.

we are in trouble now, right now. gas prices are already going back up here in NYS, our fuel company cannot even tell us what our fuel oil cost will be when we get our delivery on Wed. the 14 th. and we called them today.

now that is change we cannot believe in

he promised he was going to Washington, and make changes, to weed out the bad and replace them with people who will get to work and fix our government, and all he as done is nothing. absolutely nothing.

and Joe Biden predicted a crisis bigger than 9 / 11, one of international preportions.

God help us all

and so it begins

so it begins.