Will Senate Republicans Rescue House GOP?

Come on Tommy, get real! The GOP voted the bill down because of a total lack of oversight. It pretty much is a flawed bill to begin with. Well, that's not too surprising because Nancy P is a flawed speaker to begin with.

I suspect that senate GOP will stage a filibuster to halt this piece of crap in its tracks, and the Jackass party can't do a thing to stop it.

the repubs are a sad bunch..sitting around and waiting to see america crash and burn...and there are the party that preaches 'country first'

this stimulus package may not be perfect..hell it may not even work..but its better to do something than nothing..just being negative is not going to bring back jobs or help pay people mortage...

go dems,go obama
you are the party of action

All Boehner wants is a tanning bed rebate included. Put that in and I guarantee you he'll get the house republicans to support the bill

Certainly the Gop has a lot of baggage, and the fact, that they voted with one voice, may have been a risky thing to do, but I feel it was necesary, and I am glad they did. I find it creepy when all our leaders follow someone blindly off a bridge, or even to victory. A filibuster, will not help them, it would only send a message to a lot of us that we are in some deep shit

I got a rude laugh from a House of Representative voice last night. He wants to give my son; a 5,000-dollar voucher for a new car...very nice only how is he to pay for the rest of it? He just had his hours cut back to 20 a wk.

Lets give this a try... work together. Stop with the single issue votes. Tax cuts for the wealthy did not work. America has no choice but to spend money to revive our country. Some things have to go, not the education, not the health benefits or the infrastructure spending. Lets put higher restrictions on what the financial institutes could do with their money. Start with wage caps on the top executives. The tired argument that we will lose these people is dead for 2 reasons, they can live on half their salary, and if they threaten to go let them. Where are they going? Let the government take a cut on their health benefits and their retirement packages, where else are they going to work. They gave themselves a pay raise, cut somewhere else. If we have to give and suffer they also need to join us. It is about time the elected officials and the banking elite came back to the real world of America and proved to us, their bosses, that they are ready to sacrifice right along with us.

Lets see another HOW MUCH isnt this much greater than what everyone had a fit over when bush passed the last one?
We have to do is get rid of Polosi and the hinch men the ones that are the problem.
As far as a millon jobs created getting rid of the ileagals would do the same without the spending of monies we dont have.
Unemployment benifets lets start work programs just like the ones in the 40s and 50s.
We can see the change spend spend spend.
Lets get our production going anything imported should be taxed 50% and if its forien and assembled here another 30%.
If you buy forein sales taxs should be 15% higher...

Tommy sounds worried... The real fear is in the fact that the House version of Barry's Pork Parade was passed without any Rep support-and 10 Dems also voted against it. It is basically 88% welfare/special interest waste and 12% actual stimulus elements as it is now.

If the Senate process is at all similar, this administration and the Dems will have 100% ownership. Just ask Nancy "We won-we wrote the bill" Pelosi.

Of course that won't stop the Dems from blaming Reps when the "bus" winds up in the ditch...

joedenver6010:33AMJan 29th 2009

I find it creepy when all our leaders follow someone blindly off a bridge, or even to victory.
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I hear ya joe--I had those exact same feelings for the past 7 years. It started getting a little better last week.


A filibuster, will not help them, it would only send a message to a lot of us that we are in some deep shit
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What was your first clue?

That's a bunch of nonsense Tommy. This worshipful "he reached out to the other side" media-concocted narrative is a steaming pile. It doesn't count as reaching out to simply hold royal court with them and demand allegiance.

"I won" is hardly "let's work together." He wants toadies, not allies. Thank God the House GOP managed to show there are still some Americans who aren't ready to Lewinsky themselves before the One.

Typical framing. It's "mature" to just do what Democrats want. You sure you don't want to throw in "do it for the children" or "stop being racists and vote yes" hmm?

Any Republican Senator that signs on to this faux stimulus, this dear Santa letter that the careless Democrats have greedily concocted for their own glorification will not have a career as a Senator for very long. This so-called stimulus is a tragic travesty. You Democrats are going to own it, and its consequences. Deal.

After the 2006 midterm election, the Republican Party showed such a dramatic inability to engage in self-reflection - and self-correction - that in 2008, they ushered in a beating without precedent at all levels of government. Now, as the GOP prepares to oppose President Obama's economic stimulus plan, to oppose a president with overwhelming approval ratings and a mandate for change, to oppose a piece of legislation with broad support from a desperate public, it is becoming ever more clear that, from the perspective of the Republican leadership, a hole worth digging is a hole worth digging deep.

Since Election Day, the post-mortem analysis of the Republican Party, by the Republican Party, has been exceptionally superficial. Most GOP officials and conservative opinion makers argued that the party was led astray because of an abandonment of conservative principles. Republicans failed and a liberal Democrat was elected, Republicans concluded, because Republicans weren't Republican enough. It's with that brand of logic that they've begun moving forward.

Having presided over an economic crisis not seen since Hoover, their squabbles with pork and excessive spending in the economic stimulus plan will be perceived as ranging from blindingly disingenuous to outright hypocritical. When the public lost the benefit of a government it could trust, the Republican party lost the benefit of the doubt.

What the party has yet to fully accept is that there are long-term consequences to losing credibility. Long after public opinion had cratered around Republican ideas and officials, long after the scandals, and the crises, no matter the facts, no matter the consequences, the leaders of the Republican Party defended their debunked philosophies and tainted colleagues.

Now, injured and wayward, the Republican leadership has geared up for a fight it cannot win, against a president who, both in mandate and in institutional advantage, enjoys unmatched power. That they cannot see the strategic error they are engaging in, that they are unable to regroup and reformulate, self-assess and readjust, is perhaps the answer to the most dumb-founding of questions. How could the Republicans, who only four years ago spoke of a permanent majority, have allowed themselves to become almost entirely irrelevant?

They have only one playbook, and it doesn't apply.

You don't win a post-partisan argument by being partisan. You win it by being right. If the Republican Party hopes to survive, they need to get on board, the sooner the better. They should stand with President Obama, support his policies and his mission, take credit for some of his accomplishments, and hope, hope, that he one day makes a mistake. Unless and until that happens, the public will continue to treat them like the obstacle they've become - unreasonable and irrational, unqualified and ill-equipped for government.

On November 5, 2008, the day after President Obama won the elections and interview was done with several republican congressman and I found their comment to be quite telling.

Boehner stated and I quote - just call us the obstructionists since we will go out of our way to ensure that the democrats get nothing accomplished for the next 4 years and that will guarantee a republican landside in 2012 and permanent status for our party.

Looks like they are keeping their word. They are willing to let the country fall into total chaos and poverty as a way to protect their party. Republicans should be so proud. These people get paid and have health insurance, vacations, etc. regardless of the economy so they have nothing to lose by becoming (in their own words) obstructionists.

This was posted on another site and I think it is worth reposting here. Thanks FLVOTER

FLVOTER10:54PMJan 28th 2009

It is very interesting that the Republicans care so little about the average hard working American citizens! President Obama made several changes suggested by the Republicans, trying to bring more unity! Then they still can't vote for the bill!

They want more tax breaks for the rich and well connected....and we all have seen how that has helped our Nation!

It was so funny...an IL Republican who voted against the bill said that he has an auto plant in his state...he thinks that the Government should give out $5,000 vouchers for people to buy new cars....that would make their monthly car payments be around $300 a month! He is so out of touch....when so many Americans are losing their jobs...and are worried about feeding their families and have a roof over their heads...he thinks we will all run out and buy new cars and take on additional debt! First of all... how can a family with no income get a car loan?

These rich Republicans are out of touch! No wonder we have the problems we have today!

People must first have good steady jobs in which they feel they have a secure future before they will increase their debt! The banks will also evaluate the person asking for a loan in the same terms!

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

CJ that is the dumbest political analysis I've seen since I made the mistake of reading comments from Clif Kuplen.

Here's a shorter version of what you said. "Vote identically to Democrats, support Democratic policy, become Democrats, obey Obama, but still hope that there's a mistake by Obama at some point for some reason after you've tied your boat to his."

Yeah, um, let me know when you find someone to adopt THAT strategy.

Celeb even Gallup concedes: Reps now have just 5 remaining very low populated red states!

Why didn't you remaining reps complain about worst:43's tripling of the deficit or the $50T fu that bush spent, delivering current record low everything since stats have been tallied?

All told, 29 states and the District of Columbia had Democratic party affiliation advantages of 10 points or greater last year. This includes all of the states in the Northeast, and all but Indiana in the Great Lakes region. There are even several Southern states in this grouping, including Arkansas, North Carolina, and Kentucky.

An additional six states had Democratic advantages ranging between 5 and 9 points.

In contrast, only five states had solid or leaning Republican orientations in 2008, with Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, and Alaska in the former group, and Nebraska in the latter. Good luck in the Electoral College with these 5!

The most balanced political states in 2008 were Texas (+2 Democratic), South Dakota (+1), Mississippi (+1), North Dakota (+1), South Carolina (even), Arizona (even), Alabama (+1 Republican), and Kansas (+2 Republican). http://www.gallup.com/poll/114016/State-States-Political-Party-Affiliation.aspx

No rep can ever be taken seriously following w's RNC/GOP world destruction tour, plunging the US into a GW Hoover depression, against all advice!
Will Sara be able to carry all 5 red states?~LOL

Caleb11:45AMJan 29th 2009

CJ that is the dumbest political analysis - of course you would think it was dumb - it calls you republicans out for exactly what you are - obstructionists.

The republicans said just call us the obstructionists since we will go out of our way to ensure that the democrats get nothing accomplished for the next 4 years and that will guarantee a republican landside in 2012 and permanent status for our party.

You should be so proud - they are willing to let this country decline to unlimited poverty and destruction just to retake control of the White House and Congress.

The fact is President Obama made most of the changes they asked for with one exception and it is the reason they refused to sign - THERE WERE NO TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH AND THE CORPORATIONS.

The republicans are once again not looking out for anyone OTHER than themselves and their rich friends and their corporate buddies and they don't care if the rest of the country falls to the wayside. Look who's advice they are taking RUSH LIMBAUGH - he tells them not to sign and they don't sign.

Congratulations a druggie is now dictating for the GOP. I bet he gets his drugs from Bristol Palins boyfriend Levi Johnson's mother.

Boy, Caleb, didn't you get enough sleep last night?
Meow.

John in Philadelphia

yes good observation John. The druggie comments are on point, but I'm the one that needs some sleep. Are you the John who wasn't familiar with internet searching? Good luck with that.