Obama Claims Stimulus Pork-Free, AP Disagrees

PORK NOW THE BUZZ WORD FOR YOU CLOWNS ASS REPUBLICANTS? DOUBLE THE NATIONAL DEBT, TURN A BLIND EYE TOWARD EVERTHING ELSE. WANT TO GO LINE BY LINE OF THE PREVIOUS 12 YEARS OF REPUKES BILLS. MCCONNELL ATTACHING STUFF FOR KENTUCKY ON MUST SIGN LEGSLATION? AND YOU CLOWNS TALK ABOUT PORK? YOU HAVE NO CREDIBLITY!!!!

What part is an unessary expence? isn't that what pork is? Is there some other way to create jobs than to spend some on underpasses and overpasses, and on energy independance? No wonder the Republican Policies didn't work? The Democrats are trying to put people to work.

Your policies haven't worked all the way back to the FDR Presidency. Remember what shape the Country was in when he took over? Look back with an open mind and you will see. It is God punishing the Republicans for their money hungry ways.

$15,115,446 for 17 projects by Senate Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), including: $3,723,750 for a Natural Products Lab; $2,780,400 for the Jamie Whitten Delta States Research Center; $1,075,419 for the Agricultural Wildlife Conservation Center; $849,015 for genomics for southern crop stress and disease research; $511,395 for biotechnology research; and $229,383 for rural systems research.

$14,038,041 for 12 projects by Senate Agriculture Appropriations Subcommittee Ranking Member Robert Bennett (R-Utah), including: $5,560,800 for the Agricultural Research Center in Logan; $2,616,555 for a Utah conservation initiative; $1,191,600 for function genomics research; $559,059 for high performance computing; and $186,684 for pasture and forage research.
$6,025,524 for eight projects by Senate Agriculture Appropriations Subcommittee member Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), including: $2,085,300 for the Forage-Animal Production Research Facility; $627,576 for health education leadership; $559,059 for new crop opportunities; and $502,458 for precision agriculture. $3,260,019 for four projects by Rep. Randy Neugebauer (R-Texas): $1,709,946 for sorghum research and $1,550,073 for the Plant Stress and Water Conservation Lab.

$3,207,390 for four projects by House Agriculture Appropriations Subcommittee member Ray LaHood (R-Ill.), including: $1,869,819 for the National Center for Agricultural Utilization Research in Peoria; $837,099 for crop production and food processing; and $70,503 for the Illinois Buffer Initiative. Taxpayers need a buffer zone from Rep. LaHood’s pork-barrel spending.

$3,148,803 for seven projects by Senate appropriator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), including: $968,175 for berry research; $818,232 for alternative salmon products; and $132,069 for native plant commercialization.

$3,097,167 for shrimp aquaculture research in seven states by Senate Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), In the past, USDA has testified that, “The goal of this program is to develop a sustainable domestic shrimp farming industry in the United States.” The timeline for this achievement appears to be indefinite. Since 1985, $68.7 million has been appropriated for this research146,708,000 for 63 projects by CJS Appropriations Subcommittee Ranking Member Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), including: $5,640,000 for the Marshall Space Flight Center; $470,000 for a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Maritime Museum in Mobile; $329,000 for American Village Citizenship Trust Montevallo for character programs in at-risk areas (the group’s website boasts that its mission is to “...to strengthen and renew the foundations of American liberty and self-government through citizenship education.” In addition to these lofty goals, young lovers can rent out the chapel and the barn to get married for $2,650.); $235,000 for the Foley Police Department for communications upgrades; and $235,000 for West Alabama Marine Shrimp and Fish Aquaculture to develop new methods and find efficiency in the development of marine shrimp and fish aquaculture using ponds and the salinic water of West Alabama.

$56,259,000 for 21 projects by Senate Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), including: $11,280,000 for the Stennis Space Center; $7,520,000 for the Center for Marine Aquaculture (according to the senator’s website, “Funding will be used to create, develop, and commercialize new technology to meet America’s demand for warm water marine seafood. This program will lay the basis for the development of a new industry for Mississippi and the Gulf of Mexico region.”); and $1,175,000 for Jackson State University for computer software and mapping.

$19,035,000 for 19 projects by Senate CJS Appropriations Subcommittee member Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), including: $3,478,000 for the harbor seal and stellar sea lion protection program for management measures to protect harbor seals and stellar sea lions in partnership with the National Marine Fisheries Service and the Alaska Sea Life Center; $2,820,000 for the Native American/Native Alaskan Liaison Office; $1,128,000 for Big Brothers/Big Sisters of Alaska Eagle River for an at-risk youth mentoring program; $188,000 for monitoring and restoration of salmon stocks to allow the monitoring and restoration of depressed salmon stocks under the management of one organization, the Bering Sea Fishermen's Association.

$2,726,000 by House appropriator James Walsh (R-N.Y.): $1,598,000 for the Monroe County drug analysis module and $1,128,000 for an Onondaga County records management project.

Former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham (R-Calif.) is in jail because of bribes he accepted from defense contractors in exchange for earmarks; on February 27, 2008 House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee Chairman John Murtha (D-Pa.) received a standing ovation at a fundraiser for defense lobbyists. On February 11, 2008, Roll Call noted, “Every private entity that received a special project from the Pennsylvania Democrat in last year’s defense spending bill had given him political money at some point since 2005” There are no two better examples to illustrate the problems with defense earmarks. When members of Congress gorge themselves on defense pork, America’s fighting men and women are not getting the proper equipment that they need to fight the war on terror around the globe. While every penny of defense funds should be wisely spent, at least there was a reduction in the number of pork-barrel projects by 19 percent from 2,618 in fiscal year 2007 to 2,108 in fiscal year 2008, while the total cost decreased by 32 percent, from $10.8 billion in fiscal year 2007 to $7.3 billion in fiscal year 2008.

$165,700,000 for 22 projects by Senate Defense Appropriations Subcommittee Ranking Member Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), including: $44,200,000 for the Access to Joint Tanana Training Complex; $11,000,000 for the Intermodal Marine Facility Port of Anchorage; and $3,200,000 for the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP). While the official stated goal of HAARP is to “further advance our knowledge of the physical and electrical properties of the Earth's ionosphere which can affect our military and civilian communication and navigation systems,” conspiracy theories abound from it being a weapon of mass destruction to it being able to manipulate weather conditions around the globe. The truth is that the project has received $111.3 million in pork since 1995.

$92,800,000 for 47 projects by House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee Ranking Member Bill Young (R-Fla.), including: $4,500,000 for comprehensive maritime domain awareness; $3,000,000 for multi-jurisdictional counter-drug task force training; $1,200,000 for the Advanced Dynamic Optics Program; $1,000,000 for atmospheric water harvesting; and $1,000,000 for advanced battery technology.

$86,000,000 for 32 projects by House appropriator Jerry Lewis (R-Calif.), including: $5,000,000 for the Center for Innovative Geospatial Technology; $2,400,000 for the National Eye Evaluation and Research Network for clinical trials of orphan retinal degenerative diseases; $2,400,000 for National Center for Research on Evaluation, Standards, and Student Testing skill set analysis; $2,400,000 for the Lewis Center for Education Research (The center is described on its website as “a unique educational facility designed to improve educational effectiveness and scientific literacy among American schoolchildren.”); $1,600,000 for the Technology Commercialization and Management Network; and $1,600,000 for microsatellite serial manufacturing.

$1,600,000 by Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) for the Pat Roberts Intelligence Scholars Program (PRISP). According to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), “PRISP provides monetary incentive to college students who pursue studies in critical language specialties, area studies, and technical and scientific specialties. A 2005 article in the Chronicle of Higher Education noted that, “This pilot project the Pat Roberts Intelligence Scholars Program is seen by some observers as a long-overdue effort to remedy the federal government's collective ignorance about foreign lands. Other scholars, however, view the semisecret program as a profound threat to universities’ integrity and to the ethical norms of social science.”

$57,655,568 for 31 projects by Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), including: $3,444,000 for Tar Creek cleanup; $984,000 for the University of Oklahoma in Norman for the large scale application of single-wall nanotubes; $201,720 for restoration of Joe Creek; $21,648 for Bartlesville water supply; and $246,000 for the Oklahoma Comprehensive Water Plan.

$48,807,560 for 25 projects by Senate appropriator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), including: $5,904,000 for research at the Institute for Molecular Medicine at the University of California, Los Angeles; $492,000 to deepen Anchorage Harbor; and $214,512 to combat erosion at Kenai River Bluff.

$45,677,328 for 24 projects by Senate Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), including: $27,643,472 directed to the Yazoo River and Basin, a plan long derided as wasteful, with an estimated cost of $200 million, which would drain thousands of acres of wetlands and forests in order to increase useable farm land; $1,968,000 for bioengineering research training at Jackson State University; $590,400 for the University of Mississippi Medical Center for research in the areas of increasing efficiency by reducing the amount of contrast media needed for certain procedures; and $3,936,000 for the Center for Advanced Vehicular Systems at Mississippi State University.

$738,000 by Senate Energy and Water Appropriations Subcommittee Ranking Member Pete Domenici (R-N.M.) for the National Museum of Nuclear Science and History site in Albuquerque. According to the museum’s website, it is the nation’s only congressionally chartered museum of nuclear science and history, and attempts to “convey the diversity of individuals and events that shape the historical and technical context of the nuclear age.” Admission is $6 for adults.

$492,000 by Senate appropriator Wayne Allard (R-Colo.) for the Rocky Flats Cold War Museum. The intention of this proposed museum is to highlight the role of Rocky Flats in manufacturing nuclear weapons during the Cold War. After production at Rocky Flats ended in 1992, it was discovered that the area suffered from environmental contamination associated with nuclear weapons. After a period of remediation, the idea is to create a museum on an adjacent piece of land. According to its website, the Rocky Flats Cold War Museum will include artifacts such as “glove boxes, storage containers, photographs, building diagrams, respirators and protective suits, radiation measuring instruments, hand scanners, gloves, signs and the Tepee from anti-nuclear demonstrations, and a security station.”

$196,800 by House appropriator Ray LaHood (R-Ill.) for green building technologies at Lakeview Museum in Peoria. A February 2, 2008 Rockford Register Star article provided a glimpse into the mind of appropriators when it quoted Rep. LaHood as saying, “The reason I went on the Appropriations Committee, the reason other people go on the Appropriations Committee is they know that it puts them in a position to know where the money is at, to know the people who are doling the money out and to be in the room when the money is being doled out.”

$625,000 by House Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Jerry Lewis (R-Calif.) for the Congressional Cemetery in Washington, D.C. The cemetery is supposed to be a historic landmark, but according to the website of the organization established to preserve the cemetery, a “prominent U.S. Senator” said that he “had never heard of it.” Locally, the cemetery is best known as an open space where, for an annual membership fee, Capitol Hill residents can let their dogs run free.

$500,000 by House Appropriations Committee Ranking Member Jerry Lewis (R-Calif.) for unspecified upgrades to Barracks Row, an upscale neighborhood eight blocks from the U.S. Capitol Building. Rep. Lewis felt it necessary to appropriate funds even though the Barracks Row website claims “business is booming.” Lewis stated, “…the return on the federal investment is difficult to measure, but it’s truly immeasurable in my mind’s eye.” The picture becomes clearer when one learns that Rep. Lewis’ wife, who is also his chief of staff, owns a residence four blocks from Barracks Row.

SHALL WE CONTINUE??

Everybody on the Dem side keeps telling us how this will create 3 million, 4 million, 100 gazillion jobs. I am still not seeing where all these jobs to turn the tide are coming from. Even dumping all this money to build and repair infrastructure, build schools of the future, etc will not take effect immediately, or for a long YEARS.

This is not like the era of the New Deal. You don’t just clear a path and pour a road. It takes time and design. Building schools could be years off. Land will need to be bought. Schools designed. Windmills are not exactly an existing industry where you can just order more and boost orders. What is being bought and spent on that will create jobs manufacturing it now. Maybe we need to buy a bunch of those RV’s to help Elkhart.

All this will do is give government a long term mandate to spend and grow.

If you want to create jobs now, boost business now. That is where real growth and career jobs comes from. Free up credit, give tax incentives to hire and invest, dump money into Small Business loans backed by the government.

There is a difference between spending and stimulus.

http://federalistblogs.wordpress.com

Let's cut through the malarcky and see what increases in spending or reduction in taxes actually gets us!

FISCAL BANG FOR THE BUCK

One-year $$$ change in real GDP per $$$ increase in spending OR reduction in federal tax revenue ....

Tax Cuts

Nonrefundable Lump-Sum Tax Rebate - 1.02
Refundable Lump-Sum Tax Rebate - 1.26

Temporary Tax Cuts

Payroll Tax Holiday - 1.29
Across the Board Tax Cut - 1.03
Accelerated Depreciation - 0.27

Permanent Tax Cuts (!!!)

Extend Alternative Minimum Tax Patch - 0.48
Make Bush Income Tax Cuts Permanent - 0.29
Make Dividend and Capital Gains Tax Cuts Permanent - 0.37
Cut Corporate Tax Rate - 0.30

Spending Increases

Extend Unemployment Insurance Benefits - 1.64
Temporarily Increase Food Stamps - 1.73
Issue General Aid to State Governments - 1.36
Increase Infrastructure Spending - 1.59

Source: Moody's Economy.com

The most casual viewer of CNBC knows when the Fed raises or lowers intrest rates it takes about SIX months to filter through the economy.

We are now SIX months removed from record high gas/fuel prices that acted as a HUGE tax on EVERYONE, sucking billions upon billions from the economy.

Since the election fuel prices are back down to $2.00 (what a coinincidence huh!!). This is about where fuel prices were when Democrats took over Congress in 2006 (another coinincidence!!!)

REGARDLESS of any Obama Porkulus bill billions upon billions in reduced fuel prices have been pumped into the economy and will start to show up in those gloomy reward looking stats that have many Gen Xers believing the sky is falling.

The window of "EMERGENCY!!!" that democrats can use to proclaim "WE MUST DO SOMETHING!!" is growing shorter.
With some level of recovery by reduced fuel prices looming on the horizon what better time to pass BILLIONS in Obama/Pelosi liberal vote buying social engenieering PORK and label it as stimulus. When the economy perks up as billions in reduced fuel prices enters the economy like a HUGE tax cut Obama can proclaim his social engineering PORK bill, masquerading as stimulus, a success.

Another "perfect storm" for Democrats.

Respectfully,
Pete

Government spending to regain our expanding economy has the support of the people,unlike '44's predecessor. CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. Feb. 7-8, MoE ± 3.5. Approve of how B. Obama is handling his job as president?"Approve Disapprove Unsure:
2/7-8/09 76% 23% 1%

Con's are so depressed with President Obama:44's success at every corner.

With 76% approval, get with the program or die in desperation w/o even trying!

For an excellent preview of the future growth that is in store for us: Check out http://www.rachael.msnbc.com timecode: 27 Minutes(http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908#29110423) The only time FDR's stimulus failed was in 1937 when it was cut back for 1 year to balance the deficit.

1933 25% unemployment...3 yrs after the New deal unemployment was down to 15% & GDP was back up 40%, to the the 1929 level!

After the 1937 dip w/o stimulus & following continued stimulus in 1939-41 GDP had doubled again from 1930 levels to 90%+ The US entered WWII following 12/07/41.

The w party is over, but a new one is just beginning!

Alot of this bill is not going to help the middle class and yet President O'Bama wants the middle class to spend money we don't have to keep the economy going.The whole bill is about giving money to government agencies,I just don't get it.

Isn't it clear ... yet, that something else happened, beside what we were told, to create this crisis? When I see blogger's blindly defend the indefensiable because of partisanship ... it sickens me. It wasn't George Bush and it wasn't Bill Clinton. It was many things that made our Country vunerable ... and it was over a long period of time.

I am tired of hearing who's fault it is,it is our reality now and I don't give a damn what party you are for,I am for what is right for the American people,these politicans are suppose to be working for us,the tax payers,it is their job to right by us,period.

I thought Muslims don't like pork.

federalistblogs2:09PMFeb 10th 2009

Everybody on the Dem side keeps telling us how this will create 3 million, 4 million, 100 gazillion jobs. I am still not seeing where all these jobs to turn the tide are coming from. Even dumping all this money to build and repair infrastructure, build schools of the future, etc will not take effect immediately, or for a long YEARS.

This is not like the era of the New Deal. You don’t just clear a path and pour a road. It takes time and design. Building schools could be years off. Land will need to be bought. Schools designed. Windmills are not exactly an existing industry where you can just order more and boost orders. What is being bought and spent on that will create jobs manufacturing it now. Maybe we need to buy a bunch of those RV’s to help Elkhart.

All this will do is give government a long term mandate to spend and grow.

If you want to create jobs now, boost business now. That is where real growth and career jobs comes from. Free up credit, give tax incentives to hire and invest, dump money into Small Business loans backed by the government.

There is a difference between spending and stimulus.

http://federalistblogs.wordpress.com

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THATS BECAUSE OF YOUR BLINDNESS AND HATRED OF THE DEMOCRATS AND THEIR PLANS. TAX CUTS DONE BY REPUBLICANS UNDERFUNDING OVERSIGHT LAX CONTROLS ALL BY REPUBLICANS WHO WANT TO DROWN GOVERNMENT IN A BATHTUB CREATED THIS MESS... YOUR CREDIBLITY IS ZERO!!! WE HAVE ALREADY TRIED IT YOUR WAY IT DOES NOT WORK!

1933 25% unemployment...3 yrs after the New deal unemployment was down to 15% & GDP was back up 40%, to the the 1929 level!

xxxx

I caught all that on Maddow last night too. Very good of you to bring it forward.

I think we've all grown weary of the republicans' 'roosevelt caused the depression straw man'.

This latest battle cry of 'pork' is ridiculous but if L. Rush says it, the 22 million most gullible people in America will too.

Unless they're just tuned in because there isn't anything else on and aren't paying attention.

I noticed the new gallup numbers on the pres and the jobs bill too.

Hm.

Birfers -> oafers -> jack-offs -> porkers?

ye be dEvo...

. I am still not seeing where all these jobs to turn the tide are coming from.

xxxx

from off your radar, just like where the housing collapse came from and bin Laden was for eight years.

Kill the Elderly bill , they kill babies and now the elderly STOP THE LIBERAL LOON'S3:01PMFeb 10th 2009



Obama’s team of despots has turned a Stimulus Bill into a Kill the Elderly bill

Just How Low Have Democrats Sunk – Is Killing Seniors Now Not Beyond Limits?
By Yomin Postelnik Tuesday, February 10, 2009


This is despicable. And as a writer who prefers calm and reflective analysis, when such a course is possible, I’m shocked at having to write the above headline. But far more important than mannerism is the profound obligation of every citizen and active US resident to scream out against the despicable “healthcare” provisions in the “Stimulus” Bill.

The so-called “Stimulus Bill” has in it a provision to establish a “National Coordinator of Health Information Technology.” The Coordinator would primarily establish cost cutting guidelines that doctors would be bound to follow or face penalties determined by the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

Abysmal nature of Canada’s health care in general, seniors suffer the worst
England has also taken steps to destroy healthcare for the elderly and to concentrate all resources (which are extremely limited - being a government run bureaucratic nightmare that does not incentivize doctors) on the young and able. Those who’ve paid into the system for their entire lives are now viewed as useless burdens, not as human beings. In Canada, cuts to seniors are less pronounced. They are simply built into the system. The result: An average wait of 14 months for a hip operation. And that’s just a minor example. Despite the abysmal nature of Canada’s health care in general, seniors suffer the worst.

A lot of the health policies that somehow made their way into a package that’s purported to deal with “economic stimulus” were written with the advice of Tom Daschle (no, evil doesn’t just walk away). Daschle’s book on health care states that seniors should sacrifice advancements in care so that resources can be spent primarily on the young. The free market system that values and encourages advancements for young and old alike has no place in the heart of a man who, were it not for a matter of back taxes, would have fancied himself the Grinch Who Stole Healthcare.

It gets worse. Daschle goes on to say that those who have received what he terms “hopeless diagnoses” should just accept it. According to the man whose antics in the Senate earned him the distinction of being the only party leader to be voted out of that body since 1950, Americans should “forego experimental treatment” and adopt a more European attitude of acceptance.

That resilience in fighting disease has helped save the lives of many tens of thousands who’ve received dire prognoses from doctors is of no interest to Daschle. Nor is the fact that smart Europeans do not just give up. They seek alternative treatments, something that do in part because of the fact that their standard medical system is too inadequate to be relied upon.

Obama’s team of despots has turned a Stimulus Bill into a Kill the Elderly bill
And instead of using those views to gain acceptance to a mental institution of his choice, Tom Daschle wants them enacted as policy. We already know who was receptive to his views; some man who promised hope and change and who did not tell us that those involved killing seniors and the very ill.

Obama’s team of despots has turned a Stimulus Bill into a Kill the Elderly bill. And the Democrats in the Senate, including Ben Nelson, Bill Nelson, Joe Lieberman, Arlen Specter and the two nitwits from Maine are too stupid or too reckless to put up a fuss. We, as citizens of the United States of America, can’t be. Our nation was founded on better morals than this.

The Democrats have declared war on the elderly. And they will suffer the shame of history as a result.

These are not compassionate people. These are not good people. These are despicable and outrageous beasts and the time has come to finally call them what they are.

Here America, here are the “leaders” you just elected. Cry and pray, but also take action. This nation was built on better stuff than that.

It’s a sad day when even columnists who’ve engaged “liberals” (henceforth to be called fascists) in dialogue and discussion, end up having to sound like Michael Savage, who, quite frankly, seems to be right about the uproar he’s been raising for years. But it would be an even sadder day if no one spoke up in outrage against this brutality.

To paraphrase Martin Niemöller:

First they came for the elderly, but I was not elderly, so I did not care.
Then they came for the disabled, but I was not disabled, so I did not care.
Then they came for the infirm, but I was not infirm, so I did not care.
Then they came for me, and there was no one left to stand up.

Obama’s team of despots has turned a Stimulus Bill into a Kill the Elderly bill

Just How Low Have Democrats Sunk – Is Killing Seniors Now Not Beyond Limits?
By Yomin Postelnik Tuesday, February 10, 2009


This is despicable. And as a writer who prefers calm and reflective analysis, when such a course is possible, I’m shocked at having to write the above headline. But far more important than mannerism is the profound obligation of every citizen and active US resident to scream out against the despicable “healthcare” provisions in the “Stimulus” Bill.

The so-called “Stimulus Bill” has in it a provision to establish a “National Coordinator of Health Information Technology.” The Coordinator would primarily establish cost cutting guidelines that doctors would be bound to follow or face penalties determined by the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

Abysmal nature of Canada’s health care in general, seniors suffer the worst
England has also taken steps to destroy healthcare for the elderly and to concentrate all resources (which are extremely limited - being a government run bureaucratic nightmare that does not incentivize doctors) on the young and able. Those who’ve paid into the system for their entire lives are now viewed as useless burdens, not as human beings. In Canada, cuts to seniors are less pronounced. They are simply built into the system. The result: An average wait of 14 months for a hip operation. And that’s just a minor example. Despite the abysmal nature of Canada’s health care in general, seniors suffer the worst.

A lot of the health policies that somehow made their way into a package that’s purported to deal with “economic stimulus” were written with the advice of Tom Daschle (no, evil doesn’t just walk away). Daschle’s book on health care states that seniors should sacrifice advancements in care so that resources can be spent primarily on the young. The free market system that values and encourages advancements for young and old alike has no place in the heart of a man who, were it not for a matter of back taxes, would have fancied himself the Grinch Who Stole Healthcare.

It gets worse. Daschle goes on to say that those who have received what he terms “hopeless diagnoses” should just accept it. According to the man whose antics in the Senate earned him the distinction of being the only party leader to be voted out of that body since 1950, Americans should “forego experimental treatment” and adopt a more European attitude of acceptance.

That resilience in fighting disease has helped save the lives of many tens of thousands who’ve received dire prognoses from doctors is of no interest to Daschle. Nor is the fact that smart Europeans do not just give up. They seek alternative treatments, something that do in part because of the fact that their standard medical system is too inadequate to be relied upon.

Obama’s team of despots has turned a Stimulus Bill into a Kill the Elderly bill
And instead of using those views to gain acceptance to a mental institution of his choice, Tom Daschle wants them enacted as policy. We already know who was receptive to his views; some man who promised hope and change and who did not tell us that those involved killing seniors and the very ill.

Obama’s team of despots has turned a Stimulus Bill into a Kill the Elderly bill. And the Democrats in the Senate, including Ben Nelson, Bill Nelson, Joe Lieberman, Arlen Specter and the two nitwits from Maine are too stupid or too reckless to put up a fuss. We, as citizens of the United States of America, can’t be. Our nation was founded on better morals than this.

The Democrats have declared war on the elderly. And they will suffer the shame of history as a result.

These are not compassionate people. These are not good people. These are despicable and outrageous beasts and the time has come to finally call them what they are.

Here America, here are the “leaders” you just elected. Cry and pray, but also take action. This nation was built on better stuff than that.

It’s a sad day when even columnists who’ve engaged “liberals” (henceforth to be called fascists) in dialogue and discussion, end up having to sound like Michael Savage, who, quite frankly, seems to be right about the uproar he’s been raising for years. But it would be an even sadder day if no one spoke up in outrage against this brutality.

To paraphrase Martin Niemöller:

First they came for the elderly, but I was not elderly, so I did not care.
Then they came for the disabled, but I was not disabled, so I did not care.
Then they came for the infirm, but I was not infirm, so I did not care.
Then they came for me, and there was no one left to stand up.

JACK DANIELS3:14PMFeb 10th 2009


I'm bent over with my pants down to my ankles waiting on Clif Kuplen. Back door Clif is my special friend.

we're not homophobic like the Repubs.

xxxxx

see what happens when you feed wingnuts acorns?

Repubs are far from homophobic. I'd vote the straight republican ticket if there were enough straight republicans...

I can't believe John fundamentals-of-the-economy-are-sound McCain was cited as a credible source of economic wisdom. How can his political posturing not be glaringly clear to the universe? Actually it is, to most of the universe. Like so many of the others who are against this on principle, he obviously hasn't begun to educate himself on the subject, and shame on him.

I also can't believe the blogger says we can do something for the economy or we can pass this bill. What? What do you suggest we do for the economy? More of the same? Nothing? What?

An imperfect situation should never be an excuse to do nothing. How about putting problem-solving above politics, as these three courageous and intelligent Republican senators are doing? It shouldn't even require courage, but in this poisonous partisan atmosphere embraced by Congressional Republicans, it does.

With Rush as the de facto Republican leader, I shudder to think of the future of that party. It's been turning into something unrecognizable over the last eight years, and this caps it off.

If this stimulus bill is working,why is the stock market down 400 points,a market crash isn't going to help any of us.