Stop Exploiting the Pittsburgh Shooting Tragedy

Let us not forget that a Seaside Heights NJ patrolman murdered NUMEROUS innocent victims. I believe via insurance coverage by the Borough of Seaside Heights...Millions and millions of $$$$ had been or will be paid via the settlement.

I guess that excuses the killing of those three policemen, huh? Or how about the four in Oakland, CA?

Anyway, Tommy, you are right in saying that this has nothing to do with gun control. The man was very disturbed to begin with--and then listening to the fear tactics being thrown out there by so many about how Obama is allegedly and miraculously going to overturn the 2nd Amendment, was like a match to gasoline.

PCL:

Didn't the gun nuts promise us we would be safer if everyone had guns? If that were true, wouldn't Iraq and Somalia be the safest palces in the world? Doesn't it bother you in the slightest, that your neighbor's kid, who you just asked to stop sitting on your car, feels "dissed" so he goes to get dad's gun and blows you away? How about the fact that you had a gun too, not just at that moment? I'm still waiting for the NRA's latest BS story about some armed citizen in a trailer park defending his stash of weapons from burglars, by splattering their brains all over his kitchen wall.

Tommy,
I don't do this often, and doubt that it is a trend, but I basically agree with you. Obama isn't the reason this guy is nuts, and the gun didn't force him to pull the trigger. Evil exists in this world and will always find a way to express itself, and blame someone else. Furthermore, where is the logic of killing innocent people in any of the killings that happen worldwide? If someone believes in something so strongly that they are declaring war, why do they go out and kill people who have nothing to do with their personal war? Obviously, there is no reasoning that explains mental illness like this. It is a sad day for the victims and their families.

Such a tragedy, one of which we may see more of as many who have their 'backs-against-the-wall' financialy and then on top of it all, lose their job.

A bunch of folks in this country are stressed out to the point of snapping.

But the news media will have a hay-day with this one, but no good will come of it,

The Anti-Gun folks will rally and scream "Guns are bad and should be abolished"...or...."If he did not have a gun, this would not have happened"

Pro gun control advocates are not trying to take your legal guns away, that are used for protection. Just the assault rifles (which are easily converted to full auto). Assault rifles are for just that "Assault"

Obama 2012:

Seeing that you asked, what really bothers me is the 'rhetoric of fear' that quite possibly put this young man over the edge, and now three men who took an oath to protect and serve their community, are gone.

What bothers me is that the mental health in our society has sunk so low, and common sense measures (none of which are full proof) that would 'possibly' keep guns out of the hands of some who show signs of mental illness, are used as a rallying cry for the extremists within the gun enthusiasts crowd.

What bothers me is that those on the other side of that argument, will use this as a rallying cry for the extremists in the anti-gun crowd. And NOTHING will get done for the simple reason that it is the extremists in both camps that people desire to listen to. It's just stupid!

What bothers me is that people will make allegations that Obama wants to overturn the 2nd Amendment--and think that that's all it takes to overturn an Amendment, the desires of a President.

What bothers me the most though, is that a few weeks back, a man in Oakland, California was not supposed to be working and got a call to come into work--you see he was a SWAT officer and two Oakland police officers were already down when he got the call. He loaded up the car and started to drive away, stopped the car and did something he doesn't usually do--told his wife that he loved her. And now, his picture is on a memorial wall. The man who had killed him and three of his fellow officers slipped through the cracks of the parole system.

THAT's what bothers me, OBAMA 2012.

The problem is not the guns it is the justice system . They keep letting the idiots out of jail because they say they are to crowd if you had the death penalty and use it you could use it on the people who killed and the other idiots keep in jail it is that easy. The people causing this stuff is the ACLU that is who you should blame and the people who pick up for the killers.

I too believe in sensible gun control, and in sensible arguments.

But merely having a gun makes you at least 20 times more likely to be involved in Murder.

With the record US gun violence, it is no wonder that in the US we have more guns than people. Why is it that hunters must insist on assault weapons & handguns?

Why are they so against ballistics ID of their guns, that would tie them to their crimes?

Why oppose the tagants that also prove that the unique ammo that they purchased, ID's them to the crime?

Cheney's hunting usually consists of drive by killing of "Tethered" fowl tied to bushes for his sport, when not blasting his buds while drunk off his ass.

These loons are just nuts and don't kill for food or sport, but for revenge related to their many & tiny inadequacies.

Pundit4:29PMApr 5th 2009

Cheney's hunting usually consists of drive by killing of "Tethered" fowl tied to bushes for his sport, when not blasting his buds while drunk off his ass.

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I was going to post something earlier about how it wouldn't be long until someone would try to drag the Bush administration into this. It didn't take nearly as long as I originally thought it would.

Coding of ammunition is in theory a good idea and certainly appeals to a certain sect of the masses.

But there is one slight problem with it:
An individual breaks into your house and steals your weapons along with the ammo, and later commits a crime with 'your' gun and ammo, who do you think the cops will come after???? or did anyone think of that.

I can just see it now, the jails and court rooms will be filled with innocent people charged with crimes all because of someones brilliant idea to code ammo.

Leave it to Politicians to solve 'our problems' for us.

And leave it to extremists to do just that--go to the extreme. What do you think they do when a 'stolen' gun has been used in a crime now? Are the jails filled with the gun owners whose gun has been stolen??

Pundit,
You're on shaky ground. Yo're actually putting your own warped, prejudice filled opinions on the line, instead of posting something from somebody else.
If you believe in sensible arguments, why don't you ever make one? You quote statistics, that I never believe are accurate because they come from someone so prejudiced, but let's assume your statistic is accurate. What does that mean? To a simplistic moron like you it means guns cause murder. What were the underlying issues related to those murders? How many were the result of drugs, or alcohol? How many were gang related? How many were drug dealing related? The vast majority of murders are perpetrated by a small minority of people. Of the millions and millions of guns owners out there, only a relative few commit the murders.

Where are your statistics on all of these hunters committing crimes, you retarded fool? It isn't the hunters that are committing gun crimes, it's the gangbangers, and their gang/drug wars. Or, people shooting each other because their whacked on drugs and alcohol. You are even dumber than I thought. Your foul, stupid, and indefensible comments prove what I have said about you all along. The first post I've seen where you didn't hide behind some spurious source, and you come off like the fool and asshole you really are. Uninformed, illogical, and prejudiced.

You make a veiled racist generalization about sportsmen all being nuts, and killing animals because of some inadequacy. I'm glad you said that. It shows what an ignorant, racist, illinformed, dogmatic, hate merchant you are. You are an idiot, and your post is perfect evidence.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people

its an old line, but its true...

this amounts to fear...and an unstable person to begin with...

obviously the man was nuts...and to go after the police? where is the logic in that?

more twists and turns....

Gun Crime in UK Up 40 Percent Since Ban

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1440764.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7180712.stm

http://www.newsmax.com/inside_cover/guns_england/2007/08/26/27556.html

http://www.gunblast.com/British_Crime_Soars.htm

Voice of Reality,
Great point. Now how will the idiots twist it?

Case in point . . .

I have owned a personal hand gun for over twenty years and never once has murder crossed my mind.I grew up around guns. My father collected them and never once was any of those guns fired at a human being.
When we started having grandchildren we got rid of the rifles in the house. We did not feel like we had a safe enough place to store them away from little hands. Like it has already been said....it is not the guns that murder it is the person pulling the trigger.

In Florida you are allowed to shoot someone that is threatening your life in your home. I am thankful to be able to protect myself in my home. I would not mind registering any gun that I own because I would only use it to protect myself. If you have nothing to hide, then you should not have to worry about it.

The problem is that criminals will always be able to get a gun if they want one.