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Former members of the Bush Administration are disputing Vice President Joe Biden's version of events concerning comments the vice president says he delivered to President Bush in the Oval Office. Biden says that he delivered some sharply worded retorts to Bush on the subject of the Iraq War. On Tuesday, Biden said, "I remember Bush saying to me one time in the Oval Office, 'Well, Joe, I'm a leader.' And I said, 'Mr. President, turn around and look behind you, no one is following.'"But former Bush Administration officials are challenging the veracity of Biden's remarks, most notably Karl Rove. Rove used some sharp words of his own in disputing the vice president's anecdote.
"It didn't happen. I hate to say this, but he's a serial exaggerator. If I was being unkind, I would say liar, but it is a habit he ought to drop.The vice president's spokesman said that Biden, "stands by his remarks."
With all due respect to the vice president, these are the kind of things you can get away with if you are a United States Senator or a backbencher in the U.S. House of Representatives. You should not exaggerate and lie like this when you are the Vice President of the United States."
Other Bush officials back up Rove's assessment, including former White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card, former Press Secretary Ari Fleischer, and Calinda Wolff, former Bush White House liaison to Congress. Fleischer reportedly reviewed detailed notes of Biden's White House visits, which include direct quotes from the former Senator. Wolff, took particular issue with another of Biden's stories, in which he recalled spending "hours" alone with President Bush in the Oval Office.
The president would never sit through two hours of Joe Biden. I don't ever remember Biden being in the Oval. He was such a blowhard on all that stuff - there wasn't a reason to bring him in."
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carl heck
10:27PM Apr 9th 2009
Rove is a Pathetic Liar........just like Bush was a Liar
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10:33PM Apr 9th 2009
Hmmmmmmmmmmm why would I believe Rove or the others George W crew? They have proven that they can not be trusted!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
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(0) nancy
10:49PM Apr 9th 2009
Carl, just where is Joe Bidens credibilty?
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(0) nancy
10:50PM Apr 9th 2009
Carl, I would believe Karl Rove over the "dumbest VP" in history anyday.
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(0) PCL
10:47PM Apr 9th 2009
Like we should believe anybody on this one--right? All politicians lie.
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(0) Joanie
11:10PM Apr 9th 2009
Biden has been a big mouth and a liar even since he got into office. Ask those in Delaware who dislike him and why!
I hope his brain problem comes back and explodes what remains of his cerebrum!
I hope his brain problem comes back and explodes what remains of his cerebrum!
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(0) Ruby
11:19PM Apr 9th 2009
Joe Biden is trying to create a distraction from the problems that are overwhelming the Obama Administration. He is losing all credibility.
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(0) neonuth8r
11:46PM Apr 9th 2009
BUSH ADMINISTRATION MOTTO - DENY, DENY, DENY UNTIL THE DAY YOU DIE.
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(0) neonuth8r
11:51PM Apr 9th 2009
NANCY - YOU WOULD BELIEVE ROVE WHO WAS THE RIGHT HAND MAN OF THE WORST PRESIDENT IN OUR HISTORY AND THE MOST DECEPTIVE? SHOWS HOW SMART YOU ARE.
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(0) Annie
12:03AM Apr 10th 2009
I don't see how even those that hate Bush and support Obama can believe this crap from Biden. Admit it or not, he tells things that are not true to make himself look good. He's such an idiot he almost screwed Obama up more than once.
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(0) JLD
12:15AM Apr 10th 2009
I don't care what was said and I don't believe any of them one hundred percent, but I can't believe there is anyone out there who still believes Biden about anything. LMAO. Biden can't keep his stories straight about anything and is a huge liability to Obama.
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(0) bonbon
12:15AM Apr 10th 2009
I bet he did say it.
only under his breath, and not directly towards Bush.
and what good is in bringing this up now.
absolutely none, unless you need to provide another distraction.
only under his breath, and not directly towards Bush.
and what good is in bringing this up now.
absolutely none, unless you need to provide another distraction.
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(0) bonbon
12:18AM Apr 10th 2009
the Big ZERO bows to a muslim king,
then his administration denies, denies, denies, and lies, lies, lies.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
sadly there is no difference.
then his administration denies, denies, denies, and lies, lies, lies.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
sadly there is no difference.
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(0) Crystal
12:19AM Apr 10th 2009
I wonder who put Biden up to telling this lie? I can't believe ANY President would spend more than three minutes with him.
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(0) Annie
12:25AM Apr 10th 2009
Crystal:
LOL..Have you seen some of the looks that Obama gives him. Sometimes I think he'd put a hit out on him if he could get by with it.
LOL..Have you seen some of the looks that Obama gives him. Sometimes I think he'd put a hit out on him if he could get by with it.
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(0) Crystal
12:42AM Apr 10th 2009
Annie12:25AMApr 10th 2009
Crystal:
LOL..Have you seen some of the looks that Obama gives him. Sometimes I think he'd put a hit out on him if he could get by with it.
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Slow as you goooooo, Ooooooooo must curse the day he appointed Joe but he got what he deserves.
Joe "I can sum it up in three letters, J-O-B-S" Biden. lol
Crystal:
LOL..Have you seen some of the looks that Obama gives him. Sometimes I think he'd put a hit out on him if he could get by with it.
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Slow as you goooooo, Ooooooooo must curse the day he appointed Joe but he got what he deserves.
Joe "I can sum it up in three letters, J-O-B-S" Biden. lol
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(0) Crystal
12:43AM Apr 10th 2009
bonbon, still around?
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(0) catquick
12:51AM Apr 10th 2009
Carl sais Rove is a liar? Didn't Biden have to apologize for stealing(plagarizing) former Brittish P.M. Neil Kinnick's speeches a while back? Why yes, and there were others also. He denied and denied til he had to back out of the primaries in 88' because of this. You do know he's "gone round the bend" don't you? He'll go back in mothballs til they need a distraction again. Its called being a "useful idiot"
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(0) mahalapril
10:35AM Apr 10th 2009
Forget Joe Biden , is already senile. This is the long term effect from his brain aneurysm surgery 22 years ago.
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(0) G peppers
1:15AM Apr 10th 2009
Well, he's would be very foolish indeed to tell this lie because I have been in the Oval office and know first hand that logs are kept concerning all visitors and their length of stay. If anyone is really interested , they could probably request the information through the Freedom of Information Act. Secret Service may have it classified as a national security exception though.
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