National Service: Obama Wins Bi-Partisan Victory

Who cares. Just another Bill I'm sure no one took the time to read.

bOnG!

I'd like to read that bill to make sure such service is voluntary and will not become mandatory at some point, such as making it a school currriculum item o a prerequisite to getting welfare or Social security... I just don't trust Obama or the libs in charge of our government, the worst ever.

Being bi-partisan on this bill is rather small potatoes in light of all that ail's our country.
But anything to be able to say BI-PARTISAN is something anyway.

OMG!!! How will FOX NEWS spin this??......

I agree with Audrey.

What do we get for the $5.7 billion. Is the program loaded with overpaid executives and cronies running it or large administrative staffs like so many of the national charities. Instead of donations we are using taxpayers dollars and in many of the large charities less than 40% of the money actually goes to benefit the people the money is intended for. Volunteerism is wonderful and should be encouraged but so should fiscal responsibility when it comes to the agencies those volunteers are helping.

So, he has to spend almost 6 billion dollars for a program that appears to be a worthwhile project. But where does he find billions of dollars for his programs? Where is his fiscal discipline? When does Obama finally sign a bill on something that makes money or saves money for a change? The government is not a bottomless well of money. President Obama is no different than a rich kid with wealthy parents. Neither of them have any concept of the value of a dollar...because they spend money that is not theirs.
Economics was supposed to be Obama's area of expertise...everybody seemed to agree he had the best economic plans when he was campaigning. Now, it appears that he is just as weak economically as he is on foreign affairs. He is propably the least experienced and the least knowlegable on foreign affairs than any president in history. His choice of Leon Ponetta as the head of CIA, is a prime example of his lack of knowledge in the area of national security. On his European tour and his visits to the Middle East and South America, he embarrassed himself and the U.S. There is no question that he is internationally admired by our allies and unfriendly nations alike. However, where they "love" Obama, they respected and even feared President George W. Bush.
Where they cringed at VP Dick Cheney, the just laugh at VP Joe Biden. Make no mistake, those who hated George Bush also hate Barack Obama.

SPacificGrove11:54AMApr 21st 2009 wrote
OMG!!! How will FOX NEWS spin this??......

No spin, if your over 18 you will serve.

when is Obama going to fulfill his promise of putting bills online so we the people can read them before they vote?

Compensation funded by the taxpayers for public services rendered. If anyone thinks this will make a positive difference just remember that Congress fits into that category.

Waterboarding is not torture. They use it to train our soldiers how to resist when captured. Ask a NAVY SEAL. The USA is much weaker now thanks to Apprentice Obama. With these damn liberals in charge Uncle Sam should bend over and grab his ankles and wait for Osama and his boys to have their way. We are screwed.

They should call this the Political SPIN Machine.

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This is a slippery slope toward socialistic, MANDATORY service (if it is not already in this bill -- Michelle Bachman says it is). If people want to volunteer to help their communities, fine. But we do NOT need government helping us do it.

The G.I.V.E. Act that passes, HR 1388, had a section 6104 in it making "volunteering" mandatory, but was removed a few hours before it went to vote. A new bill, HR 1444 (section 4 item (6)), now contains the section removed from 1388. As usual, most, if any, in congress haven't read the bill.

HR 1444

This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Introduced bills and resolutions first go to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills and resolutions never make it out of committee. [Last Updated: Apr 6, 2009 8:59PM]
Last Action: Mar 11, 2009: Referred to the House Committee on Education and Labor.
Related: See the Related Legislation page for other bills related to this one and a list of subject terms that have been applied to this bill. Sometimes the text of one bill or resolution is incorporated into another, and in those cases the original bill or resolution, as it would appear here, would seem to be abandoned.

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Mar 27, 2009 7:34 PM - Isn't mandatory service in direct violation of the 13th amendment? - Read Answers
Answered by a visitor on Apr 4, 2009 10:43 PM - Is this just poor language when they appear to be focused on community service for children of (non-adult) school age, rather than compulsory service as applying to anyone in some fuzzy "young" definition?
Answered by a visitor on Apr 6, 2009 4:06 PM - A man at James McDermott's office told me it wouldn't be slavery because the required participation would be compensated in some way. Wether it be shelter, food, money...something. He said he thinks it would be similar to the required military draft. Those who "serve the Nation" in some non-military capacity do not get the coice of what to do or where it will be done. Serving in other countries will take place if the Nation says so. He would not elaborate on what the penalties for refusal to participate would be.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-1444


HR 1444 IH

111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 1444

To establish the Congressional Commission on Civic Service to study methods of improving and promoting volunteerism and national service, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

March 11, 2009

Mr. MCDERMOTT (for himself, Mr. MORAN of Virginia, Mr. RUPPERSBERGER, Mr. KENNEDY, and Mr. VAN HOLLEN) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Education and Labor


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A BILL

To establish the Congressional Commission on Civic Service to study methods of improving and promoting volunteerism and national service, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ‘Congressional Commission on Civic Service Act’.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

Congress finds the following:

(1) The social fabric of the United States is stronger if individuals in the United States are committed to protecting and serving our Nation by utilizing national service and volunteerism to overcome our civic challenges.

(2) A more engaged civic society will strengthen the Nation by bringing together people from diverse backgrounds and experiences to work on solutions to some of our Nation’s major challenges.

(3) Despite declines in civic health in the past 30 years, national service and volunteerism among the Nation’s youth are increasing, and existing national service and volunteer programs greatly enhance opportunities for youth to engage in civic activity.

(4) In addition to the benefits received by nonprofit organizations and society as a whole, volunteering and national service provide a variety of personal benefits and satisfaction and can lead to new paths of civic engagement, responsibility, and upward mobility.

SEC. 3. ESTABLISHMENT.

There is established in the legislative branch a commission to be known as the ‘Congressional Commission on Civic Service’ (in this Act referred to as the ‘Commission’).

SEC. 4. DUTIES.

(a) General Purpose- The purpose of the Commission is to gather and analyze information in order to make recommendations to Congress to--

(1) improve the ability of individuals in the United States to serve others and, by doing so, to enhance our Nation and the global community;

(2) train leaders in public service organizations to better utilize individuals committed to national service and volunteerism as they manage human and fiscal resources;

(3) identify and offer solutions to the barriers that make it difficult for some individuals in the United States to volunteer or perform national service; and

(4) build on the foundation of service and volunteer opportunities that are currently available.

(b) Specific Topics- In carrying out its general purpose under subsection (a), the Commission shall address and analyze the following specific topics:

(1) The level of understanding about the current Federal, State, and local volunteer programs and opportunities for service among individuals in the United States.

(2) The issues that deter volunteerism and national service, particularly among young people, and how the identified issues can be overcome.

(3) Whether there is an appropriate role for Federal, State, and local governments in overcoming the issues that deter volunteerism and national service and, if appropriate, how to expand the relationships and partnerships between different levels of government in promoting volunteerism and national service.

(4) Whether existing databases are effective in matching community needs to would-be volunteers and service providers.

(5) The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.

(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

For full text: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1444



(section 6 here reads a lot like section 6104 of the HR 1388 bill.)

Finally, the party of NO says YES. Keep it up and maybe the GOP won't become irrelevent.

This should be known as The Obama Brownshirt act. Soon after their indoctrination under ACORN and full understanding of Sol Alinsky, these little helpers will be able to fulfill his America haters New world order socialist agenda. Yes, Obama is subverting from within with Soros pulling his strings. At least Soros is doubling down against America making money hand over fist to subsidize this radicals agenda.

lol
you guys on this blog..you guys are so negative ..everything obama does..most of you guys can only find some negative to say,,

i really think that you guys a racist ,ignorant people on this blog ..not all of you guys ,but the majority..
i never saw you guys so upset when bush was doing some terrible things to this country,,you guys bent over and took it with a smile..
give obama a chance to prove himself,,he has to clean up all of bush's mess before he can enact his agenda

Thanks neil,

More proof that any criticism of President Obama will brand those criticizing the President as Racists. Play your race card.