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Pelosi Was Cool With Waterboarding...
...when waterboarding was cool.
Well either that, or she just wasn't paying attention, as Pete Hoekstra implies here:
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Well either that, or she just wasn't paying attention, as Pete Hoekstra implies here:
I think reasonable people can argue whether waterboarding is torture. It creates pain and unpleasantness, and the Wikipedia article is worth reading, but even more so the discussion. All in all it's not something I would like us doing, but if the alternative were if lives were at stake in another 9/11 style attack as Dick Cheney asserts, and all other options were fruitless, I personally would sign the go-ahead, and so I won't second guess the decision then.
But since it is admittedly close to the line, it shouldn't be done without approvals all the way up and down the line on both sides. And that's apparently exactly what was done. As Hoekstra writes in a WSJ editorial:
It was not necessary to release details of the enhanced interrogation techniques, because members of Congress from both parties have been fully aware of them since the program began in 2002. We believed it was something that had to be done in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks to keep our nation safe. After many long and contentious debates, Congress repeatedly approved and funded this program on a bipartisan basis in both Republican and Democratic Congresses.
I'm going to be very interested if she continues to double down on her being in the dark statement, or she modifies it in some way. It seems like the type of thing that would be very easy to prove one way or the other and Hoekstra acts like he has the goods.
And if he's right, Pelosi's statement is either partisan hackery that we can dutifully ignore, or she was incompetent then. I pick the former, but madam speaker can pick her own poison.
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sharpshooter
6:09AM Apr 24th 2009
sure i was told about it
but i was also told it was top secret
so i didn't tell myself about it
i don't even think i was there at all
what was the question?
but i was also told it was top secret
so i didn't tell myself about it
i don't even think i was there at all
what was the question?
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Voice of Reality
6:26AM Apr 24th 2009
"Did you know anything about this Harry"??
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(0) Georgia
6:54AM Apr 24th 2009
Of course she knew and she lies so easily, why even ask her. The democrats will do anything now to take attention away from the horrible way they are destroying our government. They know the American people are already tired of what they voted into office, so look for a lot more mud slinging. At the same time, they are inviting more attacks like 9/11 and they probably will be coming soon.
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(0) Jay
6:57AM Apr 24th 2009
Liberalism is a mental disorder and Pelosi is a perfect example of that fact.
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(1) Sue
7:04AM Apr 24th 2009
Not only was I never mayor of a city -- I was never even President of the P.T.A..............
I was never governor of anything -- much less one of the 57 States in the U.S....
I never had a real job..............
I've never been responsible for balancing a budget or turning a profit..............
I never owned a business.....but.....I was once a community organizer...............
I was a do-nothing senator in one of the 57 states for awhile -- (elected after getting all my opponets disqualified)...............
SO,......... I was wondering if you folks are amazed that enough ignorant Americans would actually vote me into office as President of The 57 Divided Socialist States of Nobama Nation?..............
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(0) Streit Rhoades
7:12AM Apr 24th 2009
Wrong Dave! "Reasonable" people do not argue whether waterboarding is torture or not. Our own history of prosecutions, US law and International law are all very clear on the subject. There is no legitimate debate about the legal or moral disposition of waterboarding. It is 'torture'.
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(0) Susan
7:14AM Apr 24th 2009
Rpublicans have lied like a damn dog! You clowns have no crediblity, NONE! So, why in the hell should America believe anything that comes out of your mouth?? I side with the Speaker, she has more crediblity in her little finger than everyone of you clowns put together!!!
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(-1) Linn
7:36AM Apr 24th 2009
THE REAL TORTURE IS DEMOCRATS HOLDING OFFICE !!!
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(1) cjjanis
7:47AM Apr 24th 2009
Here we go now the walls are coming down, and the republican cockroachs are trying to find a way to spread the blame. Well it won't work, being brought up to speed on a program is not giving your ok. Being told this is what we are going to do is not the same as having a choice in the matter. The GOP controled both house's at the time, and for Pelosi to run to the press would be treason. Even though shame on her, it was her duty to do something.
This subject is getting hotter by the hour, now it seems the reason for the torture was not to get new intel. The reason for the torture is the age old reason most people use torture, to get a false confession. The Bush/Cheney white house want these top terrorist to confess that there was a link with Saddam/Osama and 9/11. An after the fact justification for their illegal war when it seemed the fact that there was no WMDs as they knew.
This subject is getting hotter by the hour, now it seems the reason for the torture was not to get new intel. The reason for the torture is the age old reason most people use torture, to get a false confession. The Bush/Cheney white house want these top terrorist to confess that there was a link with Saddam/Osama and 9/11. An after the fact justification for their illegal war when it seemed the fact that there was no WMDs as they knew.
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(-1) Stupid little Susan
7:53AM Apr 24th 2009
Here's Absolute Proof That The Left Is Insane
Susan7:14AMApr 24th 2009
Rpublicans have lied like a damn dog! You clowns have no crediblity, NONE! So, why in the hell should America believe anything that comes out of your mouth?? I side with the Speaker, she has more crediblity in her little finger than everyone of you clowns put together!!!
Susan7:14AMApr 24th 2009
Rpublicans have lied like a damn dog! You clowns have no crediblity, NONE! So, why in the hell should America believe anything that comes out of your mouth?? I side with the Speaker, she has more crediblity in her little finger than everyone of you clowns put together!!!
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(0) Susan
8:21AM Apr 24th 2009
Stupid little Susan7:53AMApr 24th 2009
Here's Absolute Proof That The Left Is Insane
Susan7:14AMApr 24th 2009
Rpublicans have lied like a damn dog! You clowns have no crediblity, NONE! So, why in the hell should America believe anything that comes out of your mouth?? I side with the Speaker, she has more crediblity in her little finger than everyone of you clowns put together!!!
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Go away child, facts scare the hell out of you clowns
Here's Absolute Proof That The Left Is Insane
Susan7:14AMApr 24th 2009
Rpublicans have lied like a damn dog! You clowns have no crediblity, NONE! So, why in the hell should America believe anything that comes out of your mouth?? I side with the Speaker, she has more crediblity in her little finger than everyone of you clowns put together!!!
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Go away child, facts scare the hell out of you clowns
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(-2) bob
8:06AM Apr 24th 2009
Democrats are dumb as rocks. If they are poor, they elect people to keep them poor. If they aren't poor, they elect people to make them poor, taking care of the poor.
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(0) matt
9:22AM Apr 24th 2009
the President of the United States Of America disclosed classified, confidential papers to the world.... to the terrorists.... this act was absolutely unforgivable and he will regret what he has done, he has tied the hands of our United States Service Men & Women, The CIA , and The FBI it is unprecedented and unforgivable. Obama has made a grave error in judgement, and he will forever be responsible for it's outcome. Obama will go down in history as the most corrupt President and the most inept President to have ever been elected to this office.
the puppets masters MoveOn.org and the rest he is in bed with have Obama dancing for their own monetary gain at the risk of the American people's safety ......unforgivable...
the puppets masters MoveOn.org and the rest he is in bed with have Obama dancing for their own monetary gain at the risk of the American people's safety ......unforgivable...
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(0) Stupid little Susan
8:52AM Apr 24th 2009
Pelosi is one big embarrassment to this country
Pelosi lies about Water Boarding
Pelosi lies about Catholicism and abortion
pork-barrel pelosi finds something new to lie about - the auroran sunset
Pelosi lies about wanting to clear up congressional corruption.
Pelosi lies about supporting the troops.
Pelosi bribes US officials to support the war aims of our enemies.
Pelosi gives aid and comfort to a dictator that is supporting those killing our troops, against the expressed wishes of the Commander-in-Chief.
And now Pelosi is pretending to be a diplomat by lying to Assad, Israel and the world about what Olmert and Assad have been saying:
“HOUSE SPEAKER Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) offered an excellent demonstration yesterday of why members of Congress should not attempt to supplant the secretary of state when traveling abroad. After a meeting with Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad in Damascus, Ms. Pelosi announced that she had delivered a message from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that "Israel was ready to engage in peace talks" with Syria. What's more, she added, Mr. Assad was ready to "resume the peace process" as well. Having announced this seeming diplomatic breakthrough, Ms. Pelosi suggested that her Kissingerian shuttle diplomacy was just getting started. "We expressed our interest in using our good offices in promoting peace between Israel and Syria," she said.
“Only one problem: The Israeli prime minister entrusted Ms. Pelosi with no such message. "What was communicated to the U.S. House Speaker does not contain any change in the policies of Israel," said a statement quickly issued by the prime minister's office. In fact, Mr. Olmert told Ms. Pelosi that "a number of Senate and House members who recently visited Damascus received the impression that despite the declarations of Bashar Assad, there is no change in the position of his country regarding a possible peace process with Israel." In other words, Ms. Pelosi not only misrepresented Israel's position but was virtually alone in failing to discern that Mr. Assad's words were mere propaganda.”
Meanwhile, in a further example of treasonous idiocy, Pelosi is giving support to Assad’s violent interference in Lebanon, ignoring the UN, US policy and common sense:
“We can thank the US speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, for having informed Syrian President Bashar Assad, from Beirut, that "the road to solving Lebanon's problems passes through Damascus." Now, of course, all we need to do is remind Pelosi that the spirit and letter of successive United Nations Security Council resolutions, as well as Saudi and Egyptian efforts in recent weeks, have been destined to ensure precisely the opposite: that Syria end its meddling in Lebanese affairs.”
Amazing how much stupidity she manages to cram into one trip!
How did a fool like Pelosi ever manage to rise so high?
There is more than enough evidence here to impeach Pelosi on treason charges. There are also other possible charges:
“The Logan Act makes it a felony and provides for a prison sentence of up to three years for any American, "without authority of the United States," to communicate with a foreign government in an effort to influence that government's behavior on any "disputes or controversies with the United States." Some background on this statute helps to understand why Ms. Pelosi may be in serious trouble.”
Meanwhile, this adds to the list of recent Democratic Congressional corruption linked above. It seems Feinstein siphoned off billions of dollars of military funding to her husband’s companies while she was chairman of the military appropriations sub-committee. She has resigned, but as she’s a Democrat, it looks like that’s going to be the extent of her fall from grace.
This must be that “culture of corruption” thing Pelosi and Reid pretended to be against in order to gain control of Congress.
Pelosi lies about Water Boarding
Pelosi lies about Catholicism and abortion
pork-barrel pelosi finds something new to lie about - the auroran sunset
Pelosi lies about wanting to clear up congressional corruption.
Pelosi lies about supporting the troops.
Pelosi bribes US officials to support the war aims of our enemies.
Pelosi gives aid and comfort to a dictator that is supporting those killing our troops, against the expressed wishes of the Commander-in-Chief.
And now Pelosi is pretending to be a diplomat by lying to Assad, Israel and the world about what Olmert and Assad have been saying:
“HOUSE SPEAKER Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) offered an excellent demonstration yesterday of why members of Congress should not attempt to supplant the secretary of state when traveling abroad. After a meeting with Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad in Damascus, Ms. Pelosi announced that she had delivered a message from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that "Israel was ready to engage in peace talks" with Syria. What's more, she added, Mr. Assad was ready to "resume the peace process" as well. Having announced this seeming diplomatic breakthrough, Ms. Pelosi suggested that her Kissingerian shuttle diplomacy was just getting started. "We expressed our interest in using our good offices in promoting peace between Israel and Syria," she said.
“Only one problem: The Israeli prime minister entrusted Ms. Pelosi with no such message. "What was communicated to the U.S. House Speaker does not contain any change in the policies of Israel," said a statement quickly issued by the prime minister's office. In fact, Mr. Olmert told Ms. Pelosi that "a number of Senate and House members who recently visited Damascus received the impression that despite the declarations of Bashar Assad, there is no change in the position of his country regarding a possible peace process with Israel." In other words, Ms. Pelosi not only misrepresented Israel's position but was virtually alone in failing to discern that Mr. Assad's words were mere propaganda.”
Meanwhile, in a further example of treasonous idiocy, Pelosi is giving support to Assad’s violent interference in Lebanon, ignoring the UN, US policy and common sense:
“We can thank the US speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, for having informed Syrian President Bashar Assad, from Beirut, that "the road to solving Lebanon's problems passes through Damascus." Now, of course, all we need to do is remind Pelosi that the spirit and letter of successive United Nations Security Council resolutions, as well as Saudi and Egyptian efforts in recent weeks, have been destined to ensure precisely the opposite: that Syria end its meddling in Lebanese affairs.”
Amazing how much stupidity she manages to cram into one trip!
How did a fool like Pelosi ever manage to rise so high?
There is more than enough evidence here to impeach Pelosi on treason charges. There are also other possible charges:
“The Logan Act makes it a felony and provides for a prison sentence of up to three years for any American, "without authority of the United States," to communicate with a foreign government in an effort to influence that government's behavior on any "disputes or controversies with the United States." Some background on this statute helps to understand why Ms. Pelosi may be in serious trouble.”
Meanwhile, this adds to the list of recent Democratic Congressional corruption linked above. It seems Feinstein siphoned off billions of dollars of military funding to her husband’s companies while she was chairman of the military appropriations sub-committee. She has resigned, but as she’s a Democrat, it looks like that’s going to be the extent of her fall from grace.
This must be that “culture of corruption” thing Pelosi and Reid pretended to be against in order to gain control of Congress.
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(2) Stupid little Susan
9:03AM Apr 24th 2009
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(0) lulu
9:09AM Apr 24th 2009
I'm amazed that Pelosi's botoxed face hasn't crack from the lying...she was not only given a tour of one of the CIA's black sites but was also briefed about waterboarding during the same tour.
I cannot imagine the outcry from citizens if they found out that the CIA had a major terrorist in captivity who knew that Los Angeles was being targeted for destruction, and sat by and did nothing but read him his rights. There would have been calls for impeachment, and everyone on this board knows it!
I cannot imagine the outcry from citizens if they found out that the CIA had a major terrorist in captivity who knew that Los Angeles was being targeted for destruction, and sat by and did nothing but read him his rights. There would have been calls for impeachment, and everyone on this board knows it!
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(0) lolabull
9:11AM Apr 24th 2009
Here's an interesting fact: Liberals have no problem killing innocent babies via abortion, but they have a problem with getting information from terrorists who want to kill Americans? I guess down is now up, up is now down, right is now wrong, etc....you get the picture.
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(0) eyeswideopen911
9:18AM Apr 24th 2009
PROSECUTE THE OBAMA AMINISTRATION FOR GIVING THE ENEMY ARE SECRETS.THESE POLITICIANS DON'T CARE ABOUT US THEY HATE AMERICA. WHY WOULD ANY ONE GIVE UP SENSITIVE DATA TO THE TERRORIST??????? HOPE AND CHANGE I DON'T THINK SO. BUSH KEEPED US SAFE I DON'T FEEL SAFE NOW.WE HAVE TO GET THESE HATES OUT OF OFFICE.
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(0) Susan
9:46AM Apr 24th 2009
Stupid little Susan9:03AMApr 24th 2009
Facts:
Obama the Documented habitual liar and hypocrite
http://www.obamawtf.blogspot.com
Enjoy
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Facts?? Nothing but your opinion and spin again child go away get some education
Facts:
Obama the Documented habitual liar and hypocrite
http://www.obamawtf.blogspot.com
Enjoy
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Facts?? Nothing but your opinion and spin again child go away get some education
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(0) matt
9:33AM Apr 24th 2009
Jane Harman, Pelosi and Haim Saban (who happens to be a major donor to Democrats and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, for which the lobbyist worked - went on giving to both the congress woman Jane Harman and to Pelosi.... lets see what the Obama "justice" system does with this one.
Nazi Pelosi knew nothing ..saw nothing... in this little scandal either? really?
Selective memory?
Nazi Pelosi knew nothing ..saw nothing... in this little scandal either? really?
Selective memory?
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