Republicans Lay Down the Gauntlet on Bush Prosecutions

Then so be it,

its not a question of left or right, its right or wrong...

all responsible, and all who looked the other way, should be pulled down to the tiles over it...

Let it begin then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4vd0jKKQ0s&feature=related

If it guts congress, go for it!

Both the Republicans and the Democrats in Congress are clinging to any diversion that will take our attention away from the financial mess that both parties helped to create.

They know what we all know, Cheney is among those who conspired in covering up the illegal torture, as a means to get false justification for an illegal oil war...they should be fried & Convicted. http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2008/08/08/suskind/index.html

I'm all in favor of full disclosure of anyone who had anything to do with this regardless of party affiliation. Let it be!!! Americans don't torture, case closed. No exceptions, ever. I don't want my Government to think it is ever okay, and anyone that thinks its OK shouldn't get elected.

If this was not brought out now, in the future the GOP would just say that Obama was hiding important information that the public needed to know, and if some Dems go down with them , so be it... maybe the time for change is now.... both parties have added to the garbage we call our government over the last decade or more... maybe the "representatives" should do the right thing by the people, not just the ones who give them money, but trhe actual "people" the ones who live in our nation, but don't have lobby groups or corporate sponsors to ass-kiss for them.....

This witch hunt, is analogous to the Bolsheviks executing the Czar, and his family, in a basement immediately after the revolution, in Russia, These modern day Bolsheviks have learned their lessons well. But history, when it repeats it's self, doesn't go half way, These Socialists, will also be flushed into the drainpipe of history.

These Socialists, where?

Let the investigations begin. But lets not only look at the effects of torture on the tortured, but let us look at any evidence that torture may have given us some information that just might possibly have prevented another 911 type of attack. That may not be the case. But it sure would be nice to know. Probably not gonna happen though...

peaCe

Witch hunting on both sides will certainly help this country...in the meantime, obama's new friends are putting plans together to come here and bomb the fuck out of us....remember 911

We thankfully learned a lot about Presidential executive office abuse from the Watergate testimony followed by Cheney's Ford administration & Iran-Contra abuse trials long ago...

It will be great to see Dick defending Rep cronyism underoath, on the stand once again.

viva torquemada!

Here is the core issue on prosecuting a wartime President for torture. The relevant Supreme Court precedent is cited in this excerpt from an article on this issue
by Stuart Taylor Jr. in National Journal:
"Even terrorists are protected, on the other hand, by the U.N. Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. It protects everyone in the world, with no exceptions.

The Convention defines "torture" narrowly, as deliberate infliction of "severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental." And when the Senate ratified the treaty in 1994, the United States specified that torture included only such "universally condemned" methods as "sustained systematic beating, application of electric currents to sensitive parts of the body, and ... hanging positions that cause extreme pain."

The Senate was still more cautious in committing the United States to prevent "cruel, inhuman, or degrading" treatment (CID, in expert parlance) short of torture. It specified in a "reservation" that the U.S. promised only to prevent treatment that would violate constitutional due process rules against undue coercion or abuse of domestic criminal suspects.

Unlike the Constitution's rule against prosecuting a defendant based on evidence obtained through compelled self-incrimination, the due process rules do allow some coercive interrogation. How much? According to the most relevant Supreme Court precedent, Rochin v. California (1952), the test is whether the methods "shock the conscience," considering all the circumstances, including the importance of the information sought"

Read the last line, leftist lunatics. Read it again. Read it again. Got it through your thick, idealogue heads? The Supreme Court judged the methods based in part on "the importance of the information sought".

What a waste of time and money. Let's investigate what we already know, and have known for decades...

Sounds like a "shitting their pants" syndrome. LOL

Pitchfork, anyone? Yo! Who's got a spare torch? Is my guillotine 'cruel and unusual'?

P.S. Louis, you make me grin...)

Clinton should be prosecuted for torturing terrorists if Bush is. During his term he practiced what is known as "extraordinary rendition", which is the practice of abducting suspected terrorists off the street, in foreign countries, and whisking them out of that country to a prison in another country that uses extreme torture to interrogate. Clinton was practicing torture by proxy. He was having prisoners tortured with methods FAR worse than any coercive interrogation techniques Bush used.
So I guess now you liberals want Clinton prosecuted, don't you. I know you would never be selective, or heaven forbid, hypocritical. You are all against torture and want to prosecute Bush for it. Let's hear your condemnation of Clinton's skulking method of letting others do his severe torture, while he keeps his hands clean.
You liberals were so outraged at the lack of due process for Gitmo detainees, I expect the total absence of any rights whatsoever bothers you even more. Most of these people ended up in Egypt where they were imprisoned, interrogated, tortured, and with many staying in prison with no chance for freedom. These guys didn't get lawyers or ANY rights, and had no hope. It makes going to Gitmo look like a vacation.

After World War 2 the USA executed Japanese soldiers that waterboarded US prisoners. Shame on us, now we are one