Even as President Obama was finishing his speech in Cairo this morning -- urging everyone in the region to look past their hatreds and take concrete steps toward peace -- three American soldiers were killed when their convoy was ambushed in Afghanistan.
First reports said the convoy struck an IED just north of Kabul and was raked with gunfire, a common insurgent tactic.
Obama's rhetoric this morning was sober and thrilling, capturing the hopes of millions that the agony of decades of war, of unspeakable atrocities in the deliberate targeting of civilians, could be ended.
The morning's deaths in the baking heat of Afghanistan, in a clash between extremists burning with inexplicable rage and young American volunteers perhaps innocent of such passions, is the reality to Obama's rhetoric.
The rhetoric is easy. Not so easy is the work given to the 54,000 American troops and hundreds of American civilians trying to help create some stability in Afghanistan -- not peace, just a little stability.
They're not getting enough help in this practical work, the departing US commander in eastern Afghanistan, Maj. Gen. Jeffrey Schloesser, told me.
While Obama travels the Mideast, it's been another rough week in Afghanistan. Four Afghan policemen were shot to death at their posts by Taliban insurgents. Four other American soldiers were killed when their convoys struck IEDs and six Afghan civilians were killed by a suicide bomber, according to officially recorded violence.
That was just on Monday, a typical weekday in Afghanistan. The rest of the week got even worse, with hard fighting by American and allied troops across much of the country's east and south, and suicide bombers and Taliban assassins hard at their grisly work.
During their tour, the soldiers of the 101st Airborne lost 178 killed and 810 wounded, "some grievously," Schloesser said in a teleconference with reporters at the Pentagon this week.
He said violence in his sector is 25 percent higher this year than a year ago, and that a year ago it was 40 percent higher than the previous year. In short, Afghanistan's violence is worsening.
Schloesser and his troopers have tackled this problem with a combination of relentless old-fashioned fire and maneuvering – continuing their pursuit of insurgents through the winter's howling blizzards, for instance – and the critical work of helping to expand local government and security forces.
This is America's exit strategy: to enable Afghanistan's army and police and its national and local governments to manage the country's future. The U.S. military can help by building roads and schools, training Afghan soldiers and cops, and providing a few advisors for local government.
But what's really needed is a "civilian surge'' of American experts into Afghanistan, Schloesser said, including engineers, educators and experts in law who can help train local prosecutors, judges and government administrators.
I pressed him on this point, recalling that commanders in Afghanistan have for years been demanding more U.S. civilians and not getting them. He responded diplomatically:
"As you note, we've – for a long time I and my peers have been asking for and calling for civilian skill sets that we just do not have inside the military.
"And in some cases,'' he said carefully, "some of the calls have actually been fulfilled.''
One practical impact: most small towns and district centers don't have a working judicial system to arrest, prosecute and try criminals. Where there are rudimentary courts, they are often corrupt. And that means local folks often turn to the Taliban, who hand out harsh but effective judgment and punishment.
That's the huge gap between Obama's rhetoric and the gritty reality in places like Afghanistan. Earlier this year, the President endorsed a new Afghan strategy and authorized 21,000 additional troops. Most of them are already there.
Policy makers and counterinsurgency experts long have recognized that America's goals in Afghanistan can't be reached without a "surge" of civilians.
Hearing Limbaugh's anti-Obama rhetoric, especially his "I want him to fail" and the recent audio diatribe from Bin Laden regarding Obama's visits to the Middle East, I fully expect American Right-Wingers to soon admit they share common-ground with the AQ and the Taliban.
The recent shootings of Dr. Tiller in church and of the two soldiers outside a recruiting office is proof that America's enemies without share a common goal with America's enemies within.
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Tim
3:14PM Jun 4th 2009
Are you saying that right-wingers want to kill Americans? That we want to shoot our own military? What a bonehead. No coherent thought in that post. More "I hate Amerika" speech from someone that I deployed overseas to defend "its" right to say it. Get a job, puke.
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usc35
3:20PM Jun 4th 2009
I'm sure Osama felt right at home among his Muslim Brethren !
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Wish Belkin
3:43PM Jun 4th 2009
"And in some cases,'' he said carefully, "some of the calls have actually been fulfilled.'' __________________________________________________________________________ Some day we'll learn that you can't politicize a war with any hope of winning it. We've been doing it since Korea and haven't won one since. (The first Iraq war was a push, only because Bush senior was smart enough to listen to his generals)
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ProPalin
4:53PM Jun 4th 2009
Who cares about this stupid useless money-wasting trip! He is a disgrace to the office held by 43 former Constitutionally elected Presidents. BO so far...
1. Has Lied and broken more promises than Bill Clinton did in 6 months in just the first 100 days; 2. Just let 266 pages of nuclear sites and stockpile locations out for the world to see, but won't let Americans see his ONE PAGE HOSPITAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE. 3. Has apologized to the world for what our nation has been doing to rightfully protect itself and our Constitution. 4. Is now trying to place the most liberal woman possible (a now confirmed La Raza member and supporter) on the SCOTUS. THIS TRIP IS A WASTE OF TIME.
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Rheinhart Moxon
5:08PM Jun 4th 2009
Rheinhart Moxon 2:14PM Jun 4th 2009 Hearing Limbaugh's anti-Obama rhetoric, especially his "I want him to fail" and the recent audio diatribe from Bin Laden regarding Obama's visits to the Middle East, I fully expect American Right-Wingers to soon admit they share common-ground with the AQ and the Taliban.
The recent shootings of Dr. Tiller in church and of the two soldiers outside a recruiting office is proof that America's enemies without share a common goal with America's enemies within. RATE THIS COMMENT:Vote UpVote DownBad (-1)
Tim 3:14PM Jun 4th 2009 Are you saying that right-wingers want to kill Americans? That we want to shoot our own military? What a bonehead. No coherent thought in that post. More "I hate Amerika" speech from someone that I deployed overseas to defend "its" right to say it. Get a job, puke.
------------------- Dr. Tiller wasn't an American?
All those killed by Timothy McVeigh weren't Americans??
All those lynched by the Klan weren't Americans??
All those killed by bombings in the South weren't Americans?
MLK wasn't an American?
Face up to it - You guys have been killing Americans every chance you could get.
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Stud
7:39PM Jun 4th 2009
Not much to argue here. Right wing gun totin' Neocons controlled the Republican party for 8 years under Bush/Cheney. Now that Karl Rove and the GOP corruption machine has rusted, the Republicans are weak, and afraid to reinvent the party and regroup.
There is little question that the right wing gun militia types in this country are FAR more of a threat. Thanks to George W. Bush the Mexican drug cartels are setting up shop in the USA along the border and we are less safe from those two threats FAR more than any muslim boogeyman that the right wing creates to justify runaway defense spending and Halliburton billions.
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Truth
7:55PM Jun 4th 2009
WhineFart Toxin,
Didn't Tiller abort 60,000 fetuses, including many late term abortions? Many consider that murder.
An American Muslim, not Obama, killed an army recruiter a few days ago.
Bill Ayers belonged to the WeatherUnderground. They bombed the Pentagon and Police stations, killing people.
Leftist morons bombed a campus building in Madison Wi and killed a grad student.
Ira Einhorn, leftist environmentalist killed his girlfiend.
Every year thousands are murdered by loyal Democrat voters, aka black street gangs.
You're a talking hemmoroid, Whinefart.
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Rheinhart Moxon
9:01PM Jun 4th 2009
Even the Aryan Nation would think you too stupid to be asked to join.
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Pete
8:03PM Jun 4th 2009
Many on the left have criticized the War in Iraq unaware of what happened to the Russians in the 1980's in Afghanistan. The Russians spent 10 years in Iraq being ambushed and bled to death. The mountainous terrain with numerous caves and decades old tunnel systems HEAViLY FAVORS insurgent terrorist ambushes, JUST AS THEY DID against the Russians in the 1980's.
When Bush announced "mission accomplished" in Iraq Osama Bin Laden was quoted as saying "The third world war is raging in Iraq." Thousands upon thousands of terrorists left their defensive positions in the caves and tunnels in Afghanistan, WHERE THEY HAD EVERY ADVANTAGE, to fight in the open desert WHERE WE HAD EVERY ADVANTAGE. If terrorists give away their position in Iraq, they are toast. In the desert it is easier to surround your enemy to prevent escape. Tunnels are hard to make and easy to destroy in the desert. In the desert there is no place to run, no place to hide. More often than not terrorists taking pot shots or ambushing US troops resulted in them being hunted down cornered and taken out.
In Afghanistan the mountainous terrain allows terrorists to much more easily set up "Kill zones". Our huge advantage of air power is somewhat negated in Afghanistan because of the mountainous terrain. Unlike Iraq, in Afghanistan terrorists can duck into caves and tunnel systems and escape from the any US counter attacks, in effect "melt away".
In Iraq Osama Bin Laden terrorist troops were suckered out of their caves and tunnels to fight OUR fight in Iraq in the open desert of Iraq where WE had every advantage.
Today I am afraid we are fighting Osama Bin Ladens' fight. In the mountainous terrain of Afghanistan the terrorists of al-Qaida have every advantage. The Russians know this all to well as they spent 10 years in Afghanistan, gave up and left.
Sadly we will soon learn killing terrorists in Iraq was MUCH EASIER and LESS COSTLY in lives than it will be in Afghanistan.
Respectfully, Pete
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Rheinhart Moxon
9:06PM Jun 4th 2009
Sadly we will soon learn killing terrorists in Iraq was MUCH EASIER and LESS COSTLY in lives than it will be in Afghanistan.
------------- Indeed we will - thanks to Bush snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in that country, in order to have his war in Iraq and become an "Heroic President."
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Pete
8:10PM Jun 4th 2009
CORRECTION
I the first paragraph
"The Russians spent 10 years in Iraq....."
SHOULD READ
"The Russians spent 10 years in Afghanistan...."
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Pete
9:36PM Jun 4th 2009
Rheinhart Moxon
"Indeed we will". WE AGREE!!!!
"Thanks to Bush snatching defeat from the jaws of victory......"
Was it not DEMOCRATS, before the surge, said 'all is lost in Iraq', called General Petraeus General BeTray US, and opposed the surge. Most people, even Democrat politicians, believe things have "turned around", "greatly improved", called the surge a "success" and believe Iraq is on the road to becoming a self-sustaining Democracy.
Please Rheinhart PLEASE.....make a complete FOOL of yourself, reveal your far leftness for all to see, by explaining the "Thanks to Bush snatching defeat from the jaws of victory........" statement.
I eagerly await your reply.
Respectfully, Pete
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Rheinhart Moxon
12:30AM Jun 5th 2009
heinhart Moxon
"Indeed we will". WE AGREE!!!!
"Thanks to Bush snatching defeat from the jaws of victory......"
Was it not DEMOCRATS, before the surge, said 'all is lost in Iraq', called General Petraeus General BeTray US, and opposed the surge. Most people, even Democrat politicians, believe things have "turned around", "greatly improved", called the surge a "success" and believe Iraq is on the road to becoming a self-sustaining Democracy.
Please Rheinhart PLEASE.....make a complete FOOL of yourself, reveal your far leftness for all to see, by explaining the "Thanks to Bush snatching defeat from the jaws of victory........" statement.
I eagerly await your reply.
Respectfully, Pete ---------------- Pete - Apples and Oranges. Bush in AFGHANISTAN snatched defeat from the jaws of victory - we had the Taliban fully on the run and were close to getting Bin laden before our Special Forces closing in on him were pulled out and sent to Iraq.
We may have always prepared to fight two wars at a time but military history shows time and time again you better finish one war before you start another - and you certainly don't leave a country that is run by war lords without any central leader who either has all their supporter is strong enough to demand it.
As for the surge: Adding some 30 to 40 thousand extra troops certainly helped turn things around - and if Bush and his cronies hadn't mismanaged the war from the get-go a surge would not have been needed since they would have been there from the start. Don't forget, General Shinseki warned during the run-up to the attackt the we would need more troops to keep the PEACE that were being sent... and you know what happened to HIM!
Keeping Rumsfeld for as long as he did was a major mistake of Bush's - the surge could not happen until he was gone. Selecting Gates to replace Rumsfeld was the smartest thing Bush ever did! Gates was and still is the right man for the job. Hence Obama keeping him.
Attacking Iraq was a folly of epic proportions and we are going to be paying for that piece of idiocy for a long, long, time, both in men, materiel and money. Add that to the geopolitical damage the war has caused, the damage to our reputation, the resurgence of Iranian influence in the region. And let us not forget that Iraq became a training ground for terrorists - who had not been there before we arrived.
Bush and his cronies are the best recruiting tool Bin laden could have wished for.
The fighters in Iraq did not hide in the desert. They hid in the cities, planting roadside bombs, increasing sectarian divisions, and using suicide bombers to make our occupation of Iraq unsuccessful. Meanwhile they used many aspects of the war in Iraq as recruiting aids to draw in new fighters. I dont think we won the contest of whether they would recruit more jihadists or us suck more jahadists into Iraq and kill them by our invasion of Iraq. If our strategy was to give the terrorists lots of recruiting aids so they could recruit lots of jihadists and send them to Iraq to be killed, this was a stupid strategy. A better one would have been to give them as few recruiting aids as possible so they would have fewer militants to send.
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Pete
12:24PM Jun 6th 2009
Rheinhart
It has been several days since I have been able to get any blogging time please excuse the delay in my response.
I must say after your "out there" "Thanks to Bush snatching defeat from the jaws of victory", which BTW, is a phrase generally used to describe Democrats "Cut and Run" strategy from Iraq, I was pleasantly surprised by your rational, albeit flawed, response.
Apples and Oranges?? Iraq and Afghanistan are, today, two fronts in the same war. The WMD controversy that led us into Iraq is spilled milk that DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR so lets not go there.
Yes OBL escaped at Tora Bora. SO WHAT?? Yes it would have been a political coup for Bush to get OBL. Do you believe the thousands of terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan would have put down their weapons and went home because OBL was killed in Tora Bora?? I don't think so. Missed opportunity, maybe maybe NOT.
OBL is quoted as saying "The Third World War Is Raging In Iraq." OBL moved thousands upon thousands of his terrorist troops from their caves and defensive positions in Afghanistan, were THEY HAD EVERY ADVANTAGE, to the open desert of Iraq WERE WE HAD EVERY ADVANTAGE. EVERY top leader OBL sent to Iraq was killed or captured.
Were they suckered from their caves in Afghanistan to the open desert of Iraq to fight OUR fight?? OBL sending his terrorist troops from Afghanistan to fight us in Iraq we be seen by history as a HUGE mistake. Few but our modern day Copperheads will dispute the number of terrorists we killed in Iraq would have cost MANY MANY more American lives had we fought them in Afghanistan, climbing up a mountain and chasing these people through caves to kill them.
I suggest reading up on General Dan Sickles. Sickles was a politician who was given a military commission, as was typical of the time. At the battle of Gettysburg Sickles was posted in the Union line at the top of Cemetery Ridge. For some inexplicable reason, probably ignorance of military tactics, Sickles moved OUT OF his defensive positions and DOWN off the high ground, as OBL did, to open terrain, again as OBL did. Sickles was routed by Confederate forces. Had Confederates forces be able to exploit the gap in the Union line at the top of Cemetery Ridge, abandoned by Sickles, Confederate forces could have peeled the entire Union Army from Cemetery Ridge and won the battle of Gettysburg.
Lincoln appointed Union Generals who got their asses kicked and their heads handed to them by Confederate forces for 1861, 1862 and most of 1863. With defeat after defeat Lincoln had tremendous political pressure from Copperheads to end the war, sound familiar?? Lincoln found a General in US Grant who got the job done. What history remembers today is NOT the Copperhead political discourse but the men who got the job done!!
Yes Bush made mistakes, he may have stuck with Rumsfeld longer than he should have. Like Lincoln when Rumsfeld did not get the job done Bush fired him and found HIS US Grant in Gates and Petreaus who DID get the job done. I get the sense comparing Bush with Lincoln has you chocking and gasping for air.......are you OK??....................Deep breathes.......................OK?
Today history remembers Lincoln, with TREMENDOUS political pressure from Copperheads to "cut and run" as the president who "stayed the course" to win the Civil War in spite of many mistakes.
Todays poll watching Copperhead Democrats and the mistakes that were made will fade with time. History will remember Bush, like Lincoln, by DEEDS and results, 7 1/2 years without a terrorist attack and turning around the war in Iraq to a successful conclusion.