Capitol in Dispute Over God

Goldwater was right on about that--and so much more.

It is fine that those of faith stick to that faith, go to church, pray to their gods--but when they enter into trying to effect 'public policy' through their 'tax-free' pulpits, then it is, at the very least, time to revoke that tax-free status.

Those of us who do not believe in the God that ANY man-made religion subscribes to, should be free to live our lives without the fear of having religion thrust upon us through the ties of the Religious Right and our politicians.

We are not telling those who worship any god in any church, that they cannot attend the church and religion of their choice--we are telling them that we DEMAND that same choice in our 'lack' of religious beliefs, and all that our beliefs in NO god or church entails.

Nothing like a good old, pointless, time-wasting argument about God to provide proof that, as a nation, we're not nearly as close the precipice of total collapse as we were led to believe by this same group of idiots.

can i ask a simple question ? are you going to die someday
and who is going to defend you when you stand before
the judge of all the universe? heaven or hell is only
a heart be away for you and me. do not tell they dont
excist. science is always discovering new places
in our vast universe

Allow me to give you an answer Jewel.
Yes I am going to die. When I die I'm not going to be judged by any supernatural agency. Not by God. Not by Yaweh. Not by Allah. Not by Odin, Zeus, Osiris, or the tooth fairy. I will be dead.

However, there is a catch. I will be judged by those who will survive. Thus it is my obligation to make this life and the memories of others as positive as possible for me. However, the slow grind of time will eventually consign me, like it will consign all people, to oblivion.

There is a big difference between "Freedom of Religion", which the USA was founded on, than "Freedom from Religion". "Freedom from Religion" was started by those who are Anti-God trying to screw up the spiritual liberty that "Freedom of Religion" provides for us to choose which church we want to be involved with, or not. If you are not spiritually led to be a participant in some type of religion, you do have the freedom and right to choose not to. You do not have the right to interject a phrase like "Freedom from Religion", you merely have the right to refrain from a chosen religion if you wish. Don't try to twist the conditions this country was founded on. If you don't like God, I would hope you and the many other liberals like you would choose another country to enjoy.

LOL LOL That person was Barry Goldwater. If you were a real conservatives and not some extremist nut you might know who he was.

Please point out where in the consitition is says we are not allowed to work on sundays, where we can only worship a single god, where adultry is forbidden, where coveting is not allowed, and where icons god are illegal and I will entertain the notion that there is some basis for the bible as the origin of American law.

Of course if you'd rather educate yourself, look up English Common Law, which ALSO doesn't have a biblical origin.

Our legal foundation came from the Magna Carta an English document and it probably did mention God as England has a state religion. However, our founding fathers also made a point of creating a separtion of church and state because many of the first American came from place of religious persecution.

I went to law school and I know our legal system and code of justice is not based on the Bible. In fact, our legal system is based on the ancient Iraq Civil Code of Justice. Yes, the same Iraq Bush and fundamentalist Christians that are robbing the cradle of civilization.

I think you hit the nail on the head. If this country espouses "Freedom" of religion...doesn't that include "Freedom " FROM religion. I find it very offensive when someone of the Christian faith(?) insists I AM WRONG and only their god can SAVE me. If we are (their words) immortal souls, then our soul or whatever you want to call it or not call it, goes on. Or maybe not. But that is MY choice. Thank you for your post.

ACTUALLY YOU NEED TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH , OR YOU GET EXHAUSTED VERY EASILY , THE WORDS GOD AND JESUS , WERE INCLUDED IN , EITHER SINGULARLY OR PLURALLY IN EVERY ONE OF THE OATHS TO SERVE BY ALL THE FOUNDING STATES LEADERS . ITS EASY TO FIND .

And it still appears that you know nothing.

Funny how often the ignorant are thrown by appearances, isn't it?