Why are the Democrats so against Tort Reform with Caps on Lawyer Compensation?

Rose, I agree with you. Libs can't handle being told no.

I'm from Minnesota and during the RNC convention, we had liberals throwing rocks through store windows, dropping bricks off of freeway over passes, and they also were throwing urine bombs at the police.

Where was Pelosi, Read, Obama, and the rest of the buffoons during this Un-American behavior? When Michelle Bachmann called Obama un American, the media was all over it trying to make her loose her re-election.

The DNC/DFL is our modern day Titanic. All Aboard!!! Ha!

Tort reform is not the answer. Texas has enacted reform with caps, guess what, doctors are getting away with murder. In the usa almost 100,000 people died from medical errors, in states with tort reform they not only lose a loved one but they face financial ruin because of the laws.

I guess the Botox has effected Nancy's remaining functional brain cells. Where was Nancy when the Gay Protestors clobbered an elderly woman at her church? Where was Nancy when Obama made his negative comments about the Police Officer who arrested his friend, Professor Gates? NANCY, YOU MAKE ME WANT TO VOMIT! Let Nancy and the Obama Administration utilize his health care for 2-3 years and come back and let us know how they are doing!

Boy, I never thought I would type this. I think Biden might be more normal than Nancy aka Botox Pelosi!

So I'm sure those disruptors at those town hall meetings are there to make sure that other Americans are not 'out of touch', right, Rose?

http://splashinthepacific.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/why-you-just-cant-trust-any-of-the-bs-on-the-health-care-initiative/

The health care reform being discussed is just that at this point - a plan which needs to be honestly discussed. We do not need people shouting anyone down - we need talk, quesitons answered, rational discussion. We do not need any more Palin or Limbaugh half-truths or outright lies. We need to ignore all this madness about "government run health care"! Guess what: Medicaid and Medicare are both government health care - the government does not run it - the government just pays for it. It works; so lets expand it to cover all uninsured American citizens old and young.

BOTH SIDE DESERVE TO BE HEARD. ONE SIDE SHOULD NOT SHOUT DOWN OTHER CITIZENS WHO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT HEALTH CARE. THESE MEETINGS SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL FOR ALL SIDES SO EVERYONE CAN LEARN. I THINK THIS IS WHAT PELOSI MEANT. THE HATE SIGNS AND NAZI TALK SHOULD STOP

To Richnet:
I agree that both sides need to be heard, and I agree that the Health care insurers must be more tightly regulated. Medicare is a prime example of a government-run health care system, as you state. The problem is that the waste, fraud, and abuse that riddles most government programs siphon a significant percentage of the money paid into Medicare away from Health care, into other government programs. That is the real danger of a public option. This will almost certainly increase the cost of care and be less efficient at the same time, resulting in decreasing the quality of care.

If you're honest with yourself, you'd have to admit that, if you have to be sick, you'd rather be a privately-insured sick patient in America than a publically-insured sick patient in Canada or the UK. Bipartisan plans have been proposed that would enact true health insurance reform without resorting to the wasteful bureaucracy of government control. Those plans have been ignored by our reigning leaders in the Democratic party.

I feel strongly that this plan should be scrapped and restarted with a more reasoned approach, and I expect all Americans to fight for MY right to say it, just as I'll fight for your right to state your opinion, even if I disagree with it. That's what America's about, or have we forgotten?

Actually, it's the libs and the Obama followers who are staging the problems. Take a good look at the videos. Listen to who is saying what.
Listen to Obama pleading with his minions to show up and get in peoples faces.
This is what he was, this is what he is, this is what he does. You can take the community organizer out of Chicago, but you can't keep him from returning to his roots when things just don't go his way.

HeyPismo1

Republican Lynch Mobs Try to Destroy Healthcare Reform
http://www.politicususa.com/en/GOP-Healthcare

What's this I hear about Republicans tryin' to kill progress? Haven't they heard that progress is now a verb, ala Sarah Palin? Don't they want to progress this great continent? Sadly, it seems the Republicans got off the progress bus and onto the propaganda bus. And we all know that propaganda isn't American and it most certainly isn't Republican/Fox News.

A leaked memo reveals what’s behind the crazies claiming "they don’t want no socialized medicine" at recent Town Halls. Republicans are coordinating an assault and harassment campaign of Democratic leaders’ Town Hall meetings in an effort to kill Health Care Reform and fool lawmakers into believing there is wide-spread opposition to the notion of human beings in a civilized nation being given access to health care.

The right wing is working (paid for by your tax dollars) with lobbyist-run groups Freedom Works (of Teabagging Infamy) and Americans for Prosperity (Orwellian names, no?) in their national socialist style effort to kill health care reform. Yes, they’re even busing people in to the Town Hall meetings, giving them Machiavellian War Tactics to follow. Heck, maybe the C-Street guys were right about Hitler being a good role model, ‘cuz this crap would surely do Hitler proud, and we all know what a great proponent of democracy Hitler was:

“– Artificially Inflate Your Numbers: “Spread out in the hall and try to be in the front half. The objective is to put the Rep on the defensive with your questions and follow-up. The Rep should be made to feel that a majority, and if not, a significant portion of at least the audience, opposes the socialist agenda of Washington.”

– Be Disruptive Early And Often: “You need to rock-the-boat early in the Rep’s presentation, Watch for an opportunity to yell out and challenge the Rep’s statements early.”

-Try To “Rattle Him,” Not Have An Intelligent Debate: “The goal is to rattle him, get him off his prepared script and agenda. If he says something outrageous, stand up and shout out and sit right back down. Look for these opportunities before he even takes questions”

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/31/recess-harassment-memo/

NRCC, National Republican Congressional Committee, has endorsed these tactics and proudly crowed the days of civil town halls are now “over.”” I can only assume the NRCC also endorses the use of the pronoun "him" in reference to all of our representatives. I'm sure we can forgive the good old boys who brought us glass shoe breaking Sarah Palin as the New Face of Patriarchal Power (er, "Feminism") for this teeny, tiny oversight in what amounts to a gross misuse of their power.

Why did the Republicans feel a need to draft a memo telling their paid workers that they should rattle the Democrats to "make sure there is no intelligent debate"? I should think by now the Democrats, indeed, the nation, are well aware of the inability of the Republicans to engage in an intelligent debate. No need to rattle us, peeps. We done plenty rattled after 8 years of the synthetic cowboy and his posse.

Republican Lynch Mobs Try to Destroy Healthcare Reform
Submitted by SJones on Mon, 08/03/2009 - 18:39. HealthcareRepublican PartySarah JonesU.S. Congress
‹ previous1418 of 1510next ›What's this I hear about Republicans tryin' to kill progress? Haven't they heard that progress is now a verb, ala Sarah Palin? Don't they want to progress this great continent? Sadly, it seems the Republicans got off the progress bus and onto the propaganda bus. And we all know that propaganda isn't American and it most certainly isn't Republican/Fox News.

A leaked memo reveals what’s behind the crazies claiming "they don’t want no socialized medicine" at recent Town Halls. Republicans are coordinating an assault and harassment campaign of Democratic leaders’ Town Hall meetings in an effort to kill Health Care Reform and fool lawmakers into believing there is wide-spread opposition to the notion of human beings in a civilized nation being given access to health care.

The right wing is working (paid for by your tax dollars) with lobbyist-run groups Freedom Works (of Teabagging Infamy) and Americans for Prosperity (Orwellian names, no?) in their national socialist style effort to kill health care reform. Yes, they’re even busing people in to the Town Hall meetings, giving them Machiavellian War Tactics to follow. Heck, maybe the C-Street guys were right about Hitler being a good role model, ‘cuz this crap would surely do Hitler proud, and we all know what a great proponent of democracy Hitler was:

“– Artificially Inflate Your Numbers: “Spread out in the hall and try to be in the front half. The objective is to put the Rep on the defensive with your questions and follow-up. The Rep should be made to feel that a majority, and if not, a significant portion of at least the audience, opposes the socialist agenda of Washington.”

– Be Disruptive Early And Often: “You need to rock-the-boat early in the Rep’s presentation, Watch for an opportunity to yell out and challenge the Rep’s statements early.”

-Try To “Rattle Him,” Not Have An Intelligent Debate: “The goal is to rattle him, get him off his prepared script and agenda. If he says something outrageous, stand up and shout out and sit right back down. Look for these opportunities before he even takes questions”

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/31/recess-harassment-memo/

NRCC, National Republican Congressional Committee, has endorsed these tactics and proudly crowed the days of civil town halls are now “over.”” I can only assume the NRCC also endorses the use of the pronoun "him" in reference to all of our representatives. I'm sure we can forgive the good old boys who brought us glass shoe breaking Sarah Palin as the New Face of Patriarchal Power (er, "Feminism") for this teeny, tiny oversight in what amounts to a gross misuse of their power.

Why did the Republicans feel a need to draft a memo telling their paid workers that they should rattle the Democrats to "make sure there is no intelligent debate"? I should think by now the Democrats, indeed, the nation, are well aware of the inability of the Republicans to engage in an intelligent debate. No need to rattle us, peeps. We done plenty rattled after 8 years of the synthetic cowboy and his posse.



While the days of civilized town hall meetings are over, the days of the Republican Clown Show are clearly not even close to over. Get thee patriotic self to a town hall near theeself soon, take pictures of the Propaganda People, and speak up for your rights. Oh, and you might want to leave your flag pin at home, lest you be mistaken for a authoritarian nationalist trying to overthrow democracy. Jusy sayin'.

A few LTTE about the Republicans adoration for the good old days, you know, before the Revolutionary War, wouldn’t hurt, either. Oh how the Republicans long for the good old days, back when you and I didn't have - and weren't even entitled to complain about it -- representation. When the privileged could just do whatever they wanted and tax us without even listening to how we think our tax dollars should be spent.

Sometimes, when you love someone, you just have to say no; we wouldn’t want another WMD on the Republican’s already blood-stained hands and I doubt the MSM will be reporting any of these distasteful facts. So, it falls to you, again, my fellow patriot.

A good American's work is never done, it seems.

mkw737, you and CJ are making this about the GOP/Republicans. There are plenty of Dems at these protests, also. Plenty of Democrat elderly have questions about this train wreck healthcare "reform". They have read this bill and have come with questions and don't appreciate being ignored. Or written off as senile and ready for a pine box. Plenty of Democrats, young and middle aged, have questions.
Screecher of the House Pelosi is a scary scary lying corrupt woman and both she and Reid need to GO. Sheeit, the whole administration stinks. You won't see THEM on this health care! Nooooo way! This is typical liberal response...if you don't agree with them, you're un-American.

ProPalin - you said "This is typical liberal response...if you don't agree with them, you're un-American." That is hilarious since it was GW BUSH who stated "YOU ARE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US" and of course his favorite line of all time "GOD DAMN THE CONSTITUTION IT IS JUST A PIECE OF PAPER" so you are preaching to the choir on that one.

BTW - as a business owner (who provides insurance to her employees) and as the children of an elderly parent and grandparent (on my husbands side) my husband and I ARE WATCHING THIS BILL VERY CAREFULLY as it develops but since there is not yet a formal bill, we refuse to blindly follow either side and we will not cave to the right's fearmongering.

For the record let me tell you about the insurance company that my father paid into all of his life (he spent 30 years at the same employer). Through the years his insurance premiums continued to rise and he continued to pay them and except when my sister and I were little kids with typical childhood issues and annual physicals for himself (he and my mother divorced when my sister were adults)he never once filed an insurance claim. When my father was diagnosed with Lung Cancer, this wonderful insurance company that he had been giving money to weekly for most of his adult life, decided that since he was a SMOKER, the cancer was his own fault and they REFUSED TO PAY FOR any of his treatment (NOT ONE PENNY) a decision that by the way came directly from the insurance in house "decision board" for lack of a better term. He died a year later at home where WE took care of him - and let me tell you what it is like to watch your FATHER dying before your very eyes, trying your best to make him as confortable as possible and knowing that there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO FOR HIM and the insurance company cannot be bothered. My sister and I paid for the round the clock nurses and all doctor and hospital visits because the insurance companies after him handing them money weekly for 30 years REFUSED TO DO SO and to add insult to injury CANCELLED his policy because he DARED to get sick`. Do you want to know how devasted he was in the last year because he felt like he was a financial burden on his girls because his INSURANCE COMPANY took him money for 30 years and then when he needed it and them the most, they literally turned their backs on him while counting their cash.

So do I believe that the health care system is BROKEN - your damned right I DO and do I believe that it needs to be fixed - your damned right I DO and do I believe that the insurance companies are raking in the cash at the expense of those they are suppose to protect who have dutifully PAID their insurance premiums and then seen their claims DENIED - your damned right I DO and do I believe that the democrats and the White House are working on it - Your damned right I do - do I believe that it is going to be a perfect plan - absolutely not, there is no such thing as a perfect plan, however, if YOU or YOUR PARTY OF NO have an idea for a better plan that DOES NOT PROTECT THE RICH WHILE SCREWING THE REST (which is the republican solution), please feel free to share it with us. We will be waiting.

What are your talking about? All the media other than the internet has surely talked about this. Also what tactics are your referring to, concerned American citizens using their Constitutional right to protest. Let me ask you you a question, what do you think about the union members for the health care bill putting a peaceful conservative speaking out against the plan in the hospital? I know many people that are not for this plan, obviously including me, and it is just insulting that we are being called manufactured. Let me put this in perspective...It took President Obama 6 months to choose his dog, but he wants to pass this health bill in as little as three weeks. This is a major reform and will change our country forever, I think spending some time talking about it and getting it right is worth the effort. Lets not bankrupt our country in the name of reform. Yes, our healthcare system might need some work, but lets do it right; lets not rush it like our last 700 billion dollar stimulus bill.

Also if you are against these people that are organizing than you must be against the anti-war activists during the Bush admininstration, but wait a second...than it was okay, now if you you say anything contrary you are just un-American.

magic... it is the fact that the disruptors will not allow others the right to ask a question. That is un-american denying others THEIR free speech. What is the purpose to stop discussion other then a bully tactic to spread even more disinformation. Why do you fear the questions from american citizens.