Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity Channel Saul Alinsky: So What?

Hannity knew what he was talking about two years ago with Obama, now he is proven to be correct. Hannity is pretty good.

Truth is a very hard thing for Obama to do. I think that Palin is more truthful than any politican I have heard in a long time. Look how the far left has tried so hard to hurt her and her family. There was a guy on O'Riley show, hostessed by Laura Ingram on a Friday night a week ago (he worked on the Obama campaine) that was so ugly against Palin. I always thought that gay men were the nicest men on earth, they are always a gentleman and very polite. This one gay guy had his fangs out. And I am not saying it because he is gay but because he was ugly acting and all the gay men I have ever talked with is so nice.

If this writer is trying to say something, why doesn't she just say it... I have no idea what she is writing about and after a couple of paragraphs, I frankly didn't care. Can't they find someone who can communicate? I guess two bachelor degrees and a master's just isn't enough.

To Truth: Thank you for your well written response to Melinda. You have spoken eloquently for many of us. Melinda had ample time to develop her carefully worded commentary, delivered with the intent of deceiving and impressing those who read it. She writes with disdain about those who are asked to comment extemporaneously about complex issues and gut feelings. She could not do this, without having had time to write and re-write. Those opposing this tremendous intrusion of government into our private lives have not had years of training, days of preperation, teleprompters, etc., and still, they have made our Legislators take notice. These are the majority of Americans who have worked hard, followed the rules, took responsibility for themselves and their families, built this country, and now find that they are faced with what appears to be a total dismantling of all they believe in. She is an "elitist" far removed from mainstream America, and she will not hesitate to distort the truth as a means of persuading others to follow her Leftist tendencies. It takes a great deal of practice to be so misleading with the words they speak. The ordinary people have never had enough free time to develop this kind of expertise in deceit.

Just another liberal apologist trying to explain why their shiiiit doesn't smell.

You should revisit your understanding of socialism, it could use some work.

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Let me begin by saying you are neurotic, not very smart and given to hasty conclusion . I'm sorry to begin ad hominem, but in light of your incapacity, I find it necessary to outline the playing field.

So I'm dumbing things down accordingly.

First, socialism: government ownership and distribution of wealth according to the whims of the state.

It differs from Marxism, but both generate a classless society, and endless class struggle in pure and applied forms.

I know a lot about socialism and social democracy, and their historical varieties in the last century and a half, and I have no problem arguing either that we ARE or ARE NOT a socialist state.

Like I said, it's just rhetoric designed to take extremely neurotic people in. Fools, if you will.

If your brain is more attuned to American Idol as I'd suspect, the republican party is just your political speed - .5 tortoise, approximately....

That's some of what I know. You, on the other hand know what some corporate pimp has fed you.

Here's one of your quotes:

we don't trust government to do ANYTHING efficiently,

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again, this is either your neurosis, your stupidity or you're lying.

You trust the American Soldier to do the best job possible. You trust the government to provide them with the best health care in existence.

This sort of just plain slipshod thinking runs through every post you write.

The rest of your post is gibbering idiocy. Don't waste my time if you can't actually outline an issue. I don't need to talk to dittoheads. Bring me your master.

Wow...could Ms Henneberger be just a bit more tedious and prolix? I kept reading and reading and hoping for the end and it just wouldn't scroll into view..."I thought I was gonna die!" (Roseanne Rosannadanna dixit)

Now that she vacations on Cape Cod, perhaps she hasn't internalized the Alinsky rule that tactics which go on too long are a drag...and so are blog posts.

She thinks the man who confronted Arlen Specter was inarticulate (why am I not surprised?); she thinks he didn't use his cable spot wisely to lay out a 5-point health care reform plan. He blurted something about "31 czars." And the woman who "quiveringly" complained about the "dismantling" of the country was similarly aphasic in Ms. Henneberger's view. And yet with those two sound bytes, they spoke volumes to millions and millions of ordinary citizens who understand a power grab when they see one...and the proposed HR 3200 is a political power grab of Gargantuan proportions.

That Ms. Hennerberger and her lefty ilk don't get it speaks volumes as well...and explains why with 90% of the public covered by medical insurance, and 80% satisfied with their plan, and solid majorities against Obama on this lurch toward government-directed health care, the Left is getting trounced.

That yahoo in the picture is definitely a disciple of Rush "The Cysto Kid" Limbaugh. "Think for myself? Heck no! Ah let's Rush do that. Ditto, Rush. You said it, Rush." Town meetings, indeed. The writer and philosopher Ayn Rand said that we exist in our minds, which thought echoes the proposition of the French philosopher and mathematician Rene Descartes: Cogito ergo sum. (For Bushbots and fans of Limbaugh, that's Latin for, "I think, therefore I am.") If one believes lies, one is like a prisoner of war. If one refuses to free his mind, one is like a prisoner of war who refuses to try to escape. Bushbots and Limbaugh lemmings are moral cowards.

The president is drowning and you putting down normal Americans for not being well spoken pundits when they get on TV is down right insulting and disingenuous...

when the president can be specific then we can talk but as of now he threw the left wing of his party 'under the bus' - Nancy got stuck out there when Obama, smooth as silk, changes his mind...

I think people there are some people who are opposed to Obamas health care plan for practical reasons like costs but most are just silly Bible thumping wing nuts who faced with the undeniable fact that their guy and his guys were corrupt idiots who very nearly lost the war they started and destroyed the economy are pointing fingers and calling names mostly because they dont have anything to offer.
They place their faith in the same greedy corporate morons who are resonnsible for economic crisis and incidentally a lot of the reason health care is so screwed. Really, all this paranoid raving about government death panels would be better suited to late night sci fi. None of you wing nuts seems overly worried about bean counting corporate HMO execs who make the same kind of decisions based next months bonus...Obama may not always have been right but at least he is doing something...Not just stupidly smiling and mangling the English language as he destroys the nation with inaction and hubris ...for the record the president has nothing to do with abortion policy and who cares ......economic regulation is good and only and the cowboys who stripped it down are partly responsible for the way things are.....and I am so sick of people who have no idea what a marxist is constantly using that word to describe anyone who doesnt suck the ass of every corporation that makes a campaign contribution

Melinda Henneburger : As the poet said "You are entitled to your own opinion but not to your own facts." Your "Brooks Brothers" comment shows that you have no idea of the facts and circumstances concerning that incident in Florida. The "Brooks Brothers" crowd were not trying to stop the re-count as you stated. In violation of Florida law, the poll officials went into a seperate room to conduct the re-count. That room did not allow for poll watchers to come in and observe the re-count. The "Brook Brothers" types were protesting the fact that the re-count would be done without adequate supervision. Shades of Daley's Chicago!

. The "Brooks Brothers" crowd were not trying to stop the re-count as you stated

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they most certainly were and they were sent there to do precisely that job. That's not even disputed anymore. Why lose that argument yet again?

If you want to know about your world, you have to stop believing corporate pimps who want your money, or stop being one.

They used the same brown shirt tactics being employed today and we all saw it on live television. over and over and over again.

Talk about orchestration! they already had their 'sore loserman' signs printed up from the first moment!

The only people that fools are abysmally stupid, neurotic or extremely gullible in any mix you choose.

You're lying about poll watchers doing the recount too, and if the truth be told, Boies' argument before the Fla SC should have been decided by summary judgment since closing the recount the way Harris did it was a violation of statute.

The SC had NO jurisdiction and their justification of action is probably the worst in the history of American jurisprudence, scalia saying it would be a 'hardship on Bush'.

No, that's not politics, that institutionalized stupidity, and it taints the entire corporatist movement.

It's hard to respect corporatists since their objectives include destruction of America and outsourcing it to foreign corporations who regard us as an exploitable natural resource. They have an entire political party of Judases to git 'er done, too, and I'd say you are one of them.

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No wonder Dick(less) Morris has an axe to grind against President Obama. Like most of the other harers, they can't get laid.

On August 29, 1996, Morris resigned from the Clinton campaign after reports surfaced that he had been involved with a prostitute. A New York tabloid newspaper, the Star, had obtained and published a set of photographs of Morris and the woman on a Washington, D.C., hotel balcony. News of the impending publication broke during the third day of the 1996 Democratic Convention. The Electronic Telegraph reported unverified claims that in order to impress the woman, S. Rowlands, Morris invited her to listen in on his conversations with President Clinton. There were also stories of foot fetishism and sexual roleplay between Morris and Rowlands, specifically that Morris had proclivities for toe-sucking and regaling Ms. Rowlands with a rendition of "Popeye the Sailor Man" while clad in boxer shorts..[7][8][9]

Morris resigned on the same day that Bill Clinton spoke and accepted the nomination at the Democratic National Convention. In his resignation statement, he said that "while I served I sought to avoid the limelight because I did not want to become the message. Now, I resign so I will not become the issue."[10] In his response, President Clinton praised Morris as a "friend", and thanked him for his years of service. Privately various aides to Clinton were furious that in his resignation statement Morris credited himself with helping the President "come back from being buried in a landslide" and that Morris ended by comparing himself to Robert Kennedy.[11]

Morris was featured on two consecutive covers of Time magazine. The September 2, 1996 issue, which was released before the prostitute story broke, featured Morris as "The Man Who Has Clinton's Ear."[1] The following week, the cover featured Morris and his wife, Eileen McGann, and the headline read "The Morris Mess: After the Fall."[11]

Until the media told me how wonderful Saul Alinsky was, I only knew what I read about him from the history books - he was a radical socialist revolutionary who prompted his disciples to adopt Leninist, bolshevik, tactics in order to usurp power. Its good though that the media tells me what I need to know about a topic so I can form their opinion. thats why Fox news, with its evil presentation of both sides of an issue, is so dangerous. Undirected thoughts lead to opinions which are dangerous to the regime. cant have that. I mean, its like glorious socialist father Stalin said (after he murdered another even 10 million people) "ideas are more dangerous than guns. we would not allow our opponents to have guns, why would we let them have ideas." thank you, Alinsky, father Stalin, and lord savior Obomo for correcting our mistaken thoughts.

No chit Sherlock! When will people stop grabbing their ankles for the insurance companes?

The health care reform compromise that centrist Democrats and several Republicans have indicated they'd support has shown an inability to effectively lower premiums for consumers, a newly resurfaced government study shows. In recent days, a slew of lawmakers, notably Sens. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) and Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), have begun a renewed push to establish health care insurance cooperatives as an alternative to a publicly run insurance plan.

Rush Limbaugh is full of crap. If he knows so much about politics then why does he not run for President. Let him see how it really is to gets your policies passed thru the House & Senate.

Now let me see. If I understand those opposing health care reform, everything would be great "If we didn't have that black man as President." These people want us back to segregation days when the only black to see the inside of the White House was a black servant. And the constitution they so worship is one in which only white,fundamentalist MEN could vote. The US has always had a lunatic fringe lead by crazy fundamentalist preachers. It was ever thus...and unfortunately, may be the future(turn-back).