George Will: Time to Get Out of Afghanistan

Holy cow! George Will calling for an anti-republican action is akin to the Pope supporting abortion. I never thought I'd see the day. If our military is to be anywhere over there, it should be in Pakistan where Islamic extremists hide out in the open and the Pakistani government, our supposed allies, turns a blind eye to their presence.

The war was never designed to a war against Afghanistan. It's a war against terrorist who don't need an entire country to function. We should be going after the terrorists, not occupying a nation. And Afghanistan has had a history kicking out everyone who occupies it including the Russians.

listen george will is one of the smarest guys on the planet. he is reasonable and factual. i beleive he is partially right in this case. i would simply take all the troops home except for a few thousand. i would keep a well protected air force base there and all the troops in it. i would then start simply using drones and start secret bombings and straffings of people seen on the ground with weapons.i would monitor from the sky. night vision and drone attacks. this is simply reverse ied's. we can beat them at there own game. just think you could not go out at night in afghanistan with a weapon. i would bomb gaterings of support for the taliban.shoot cars up carrying them. we would have minimal causalities and they would be unable to form any knind of effective force.

I think I agree with Mr Will, here are my reasons. I can already see the same scenario playing out, as in the Vietnam war. We have an administration without the will to fight a sustained and intense action, that would bring about a victory. First I don't see a strong desire in the Afghans themselves, to fight for their country on a sustained and aggressive level, in most cases, the people are trying to ride the middle line, so as to survive after the American retreat, that they know in their gut, is coming. Secondly, On the border of the country in which we are fighting, we have a country that is it's self, fragmented and without the ability, or desire, to aid in the war on the Taliban, in fact a large segment of the Pakistan military, and intelligence apparatus, is conspiring with the taliban. We are not able to pursue and destroy the enemy, its command and control, or its supply and support, due to the inability of the Pakistan government to control it's own territory, and it's covert acquiescence to the Taliban, and their allies in the Tribal regions. If we are not willing to attack the Taliban on the ground in Pakistan, and destroy both the Taliban and their allies in Pakistan, and any other country, where the enemy can set up a protected area of supply, command and control, and a safe area of recruitment, Then WE CANNOT WIN, if that is the case, then we should leave before even one more American soldier is wounded or killed. One more point, and maybe the most important one for the United States Of America, the most dangerous enemy is in our midst, unrealized by a very large segment of our citizenry, our constitution and our form of government is being both undermined and in some cases openly attacked, by barely covert Marxist, and their Fascistic socialist allies. Just because This Marxist was elected under fraudulent pretense, doesn't make him any less an enemy to our Constitution, and our country! Bring our military home to protect and defend our Constitution, and our freedom!!

THIS IS OCLUNKERS DIRTY LITTLE WAR. HE NEEDS TO STOP KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE. BUSH WON HIS WAR AND GAVE THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ A FREE COUNTRY TO LIVE IN. OBAMA SQUANDERED THEIR FREEDOM BECAUSE HE HAS NO LEADERSHIP QUALITIES AND HAS SPENT HIS TIME IN OFFICE ATACKING THE HOME LAND INSTEAD OF OUR ENEMIES. OCLUNKER HAS EVEN TURNED HIS BACK ON HIS LIFETIME CHRISTIAN CHURCH AND HAS RETURNED TO HIS MUSLIM ROOTS AND PRACTICING THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO. HE IS NOW IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO DESTROY THE GREAT AND FREE COUNTRY OF ISRAEL AS WELL AS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA..

You cant fight a war against Terrorists because there are terrorists of differing ideologies all over the World..there are even terrorists right here in the U.S. who are labeled as "militia groups" "Hate groups" "Cults".The use of the term "War on Terror" was used as a propaganda term to get citizen support for going to War. American citizens like to have an enemy to rally against if they are going to go to war,so substitute Saddam Hussein for Hitler make Osama Bin Laden his chief of staff and create an Enemy for the people to hate and there you have it.We hated the Germans, then the Communists,now we hate Terrorists.But whats really ironic and hypocritical is all the right wing people who cry about all our "enemies" and socialism creeping up on us..they elected Republican officials who sold our country to a communist nation..China..go figure.The American people have been bamboozeled big time and it shows in the idiotic postings of some from both sides on these blogs.

s24yd2e
11:53AM Sep 1st 2009
not generic american, STUPID american.
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11:55AM Sep 1st 2009
GenericMORON you need to do some study before tossing around terms like marxist. Just becuase you don't like President Obama doesn't make him the devil! You are an obvious right wing nut job and need to replace your tin foil hat ASAP . . . .------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh, did I let the cat out of the bag to early, you know, before the complete takeover? I'm sure you either voted for this Marxist or stood outside the polls with billyclubs, to regulate who or couldn't vote for this Marxist. You two wouldn't be from Philladelphia would you? Obama stated, that he always hung out with Marxist, he hung out and worked with a self admitted Marxist, and terrorist bomber, the church he attended was a "liberation theology" church, which has its roots deep in the Marxist theology. This Marxist has appointed self admitted marxist to be his czars, and have given speeches expousing marxist views, I won't bother hurling invectives at you two, you frame yourselves!

Why Obama continues to "murder women and children in the dead of night" in the vast toilet, Afganistan, is anybodies guess. Personally, I think it's simply a distraction...to take the focus off his own agenda...the dismantling of America in order to rebuild her..in his image..a wonderland of peacful bliss, where no one has to work, where drugs are readilly available and where you gladly go to the termination center, because it's for the common good....la la land.

Folks... it took twelve years to rebuild Japan after the second world war. Think about that for a second. Twelve years from the end of the second world war to the point where we stopped funneling money for reconstruction. We've had soldiers in Japan since the end of the war, not only securing the country but also to continue shaping Japan's country and culture.

Nation building is a huge undertaking. It is a gargantuan proposal. It literally transforms the culture in question. And in Japan's case, they weren't still shooting at us. England took centuries to nation build south Africa, the colonies, and India. This is why liberals like myself were so aghast at the attitudes in 2002 with the sentiment that we could simply remake Iraq and Afghanistan. It's why I denounced the killings in Darfur but never argued that we should try to 'nation build' the Sudan. It's a monumental challenge for any country to undertake.

The question then must be asked... does America honor its commitments? When we entered Afghanistan we did so with a promise to make the country better for its citizens. If our country at the time did not understand the scope and challenge of what we were attempting that doesn't change the fact that we started this process. So do we honor our commitments or not? Do we have the discipline to see things through when they become hard, or do we only act when we can thump our chests and say how brave we are to 'kill the bad guys'. Some one pointed out that our primary enemy in Afghanistan still possesses the means to recruit and arm fighters against us and the Afghani people. Yes, the challenge in great and still has much to be overcome, but do we quit simply because it is difficult?

Make no mistake. We can walk away. We always could. But before we do so perhaps we should consider just what it will mean. It will say to the world that America can not honor our commitments as a country. That we talk big but lack the discipline and will to see it through. That our power is largely superfluous and while we can blow up a penny from the other side of the world we can not make Afghanistan a safe and productive country. It will also mean conceding defeat to enemies who eight years ago successfully murdered more Americans in a single day than any other day in history. In short... it will mean the taliban will have won.

It's disappointing that George Will has sacrificed discipline for determination. I find it curiously ironic that a republican who for years advocated violence and occupation in the name of national security would now expose our country to greater harm by advocating withdrawal. How much better it would have been if, back in 2003, he could have advocated that America would be better served finishing the job in Afghanistan before moving on to wars of convenience in Iraq. But he didn't, and so now we much deal with the realities on the ground.

It is difficult to comprehend why Obama maintains American forces in Afghanistan. We are not there to "nation build". The people are too primative to comprehend Obama's socialist programs much less traditional American democracy. The terrorists can be controlled by Drones and missiles and war plane strikes with no need for Marines and the Army to be on the ground.
American lives and American dollars are being wasted. We need to focus more on our own nation and have our own military available to protect us from internal evil intentions including Obama.
Maybe that is why our President keeps the military overseas.

Cashman - your profound lack of any sort of knowledge or intellectual capacity and the absolute primitive nature of your thought based on your absurd and ridiculous comments - all you deserve is profanities...or baby talk.