Once More, With Feeling: Will Obama (Finally) Make the Moral Case for Reform?

bblakey78: Social Security IS NOT successful, it it almost BROKE. It is the biggest Ponzi Scheme on this earth! Go research this--enlighten yourself. I have been paying into SS for many years, but it won't be there for me when I retire--I don't even count it in my retirement plan. The Federal Government is pulling a Bernie Madoff on us.

Medicaid and Medicare are also going BROKE. Federal government CAN'T RUN an efficient program--not one is sound. The entitlement programs we have are in shambles, yet this administration wants to provide yet more? No wonder the seniors are outraged. They see themselves moved to the end of the line in this healthcare "reform". How anyone can call this "moral" is beyond me. LET'S FIX WHAT WE HAVE FIRST!

As for Barack preaching this as a moral issue, he might have some credibility with the Muslim Community, but he needs to stay away from Christians lest he appear hypocritical.

and Obama's "newest strategy" will be selling the MSM and, most importantly, the public on the idea that there is actually a NEW strategy in his ObamaCare

Medicare
Medicaid
Social Security
VA Hospitals

all but insolvent and ALL RUN and owned by our US GOVERNMENT

Tell Obama to fix them ALL FIRST!

You really don't know the history of SS do you? Lydon Johnson was the first President to take the SS fund and put it into the General fund so he could steal from the elderly who have been contributing to the fund all their lives. Its the Democrats who continually try to run their programs off the backs of those that work and contribute to SS. Illegal aliens? Give us a dam break, Democrats are stealing again, big shots giving our money to illegals for votes.

Allow all Americans to shop for insurance across state lines…GAME OVER.

Do you know how many insurance companies there are in this country? I will provide the answer…well over 1,000. The private market would drive down prices as this single move would enable “more choices and competition.” Insurance companies would be forced to compete on price to survive. It’s called capitalism.

The federal government and its oppressive mandates are the problem, not the solution. Do not buy into this “public option” garbage. The federal government is simply trying to strong arm its way into the revenue stream of the healthcare sector. This fork-tongued administration is pathetic. Their hypocrisy is both sad and disturbing.

The basic ideology of the left is counter-intuitive to any type of free-market system. The left is undoubtedly anti-capitalist. And yes, they are absolutely socialists. Quit believing the ridiculous lies of this administration.

Socialism sucks…look around the world.

"He is going to have to make the all-out moral case for reform".

The federal government has no right to impose morality. The purpose of the government is to protect and defend the states and the citizens. Morality is personal and should not be legislated.

even at its lowest historical points, the stock market still provides a greater rate of return than social security. it's an outdated program that we don't need anymore. the only reason it's kept around is because congress uses it as a slush fund.

Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital; that, in fact, capital is the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed; that labor can exist without capital, but that capital could never have existed without labor. Hence they hold that labor is the superior – greatly the superior – of capital. They do not deny that there is, and probably always will be, a relation between labor and capital. The error, as they hold, is in assuming that the whole labor of the world exists within that relation. A few men own capital; and that few avoid labor themselves, and with their capital hire or buy another few to labor for them..."

Abraham Lincoln, September 30, 1859

And as Galbraith said, conservatives are all about trying to find philosophical and moral (and religious) excuses for their own selfishness

juddty...so basically what you are saying is that you would prefer your daughter to die on the street rather than have a health care option because if she hadn't had medicaid she would be s... out of luck...only those that can afford health insurance premiums should have access to health care in the world you inhabit.
WOW!

“Organizing for America” Rally…

they can SHOUT/CHANT and DANCE ALL DAY for Obamacare but they can’t answer one question !!!

video
http://wadesayswhat.wordpress.com/

The main concern that I have with gov. programs is the sustainability in the long run. Our politicians have spent every dime, we have for S.S. and Medicare. They have bankrupted the postal service as well. I would love to see some kind of Health Care reform, even a kind of public option, but I cannot look blindly at how there is no fiscal responsiblity of our gov. France and England work (fiscally) because their gov. do not spend nor are they allowed to spend health designated money on other things. I just cannot trust our gov. with such a bad track record. They have bankrupted every social service program that we have in America, and now they want us to trust them with an even larger program....Help!

Social Security, one of the most successful government programs ever enacted, if considered today, would be condemned as the ravings of a tax and spend liberal socialist ......blah blah blaah
bblakey78
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and what makes you even imagine that even THEN,everybody stood up and cheered ? was recognized as socialist shyte back then and remains the biggest lie ever foisted on a free people.The government has absolutely no right to garnish your pay check for a nonexistent fund.

Thank god for that.

Melinda Henneberger wants Obama to make the "moral" case for reform, with "feeling" this time. Is it her hope that feeling will disguise facts? Probably, but Obama getting all wee-wee'd up isn't going to change most minds. Maybe Melinda just likes to get all wee-wee'd up herself, but if that's all Obama comes up with, he will fail.

There is a faulty premise in the argument that liberals like Melinda keep beating the dead horse with. Like nearly all liberals she is yearning for Obama to use some magically passionate rhetoric to convince the country of the need for reform, like Orpheus rescuing Eurydice from Hades with the unearthly beauty of his music. She wants Obama to be the Pied Piper, and lead the lemmings to Socialized medicine.

I don't think the teleprompter is up to it, but I digress.

We, as a nation, already agree that health care needs reform!!!! The logical disconnect in the liberal cry for reform is in the implication that it HAS to be reformed with Obama's Commie Care, and NOTHING else will do!!! This is a classic non sequitur argument. It does not follow that, because health care needs some reform, we need to destroy the entire existing system and start from scratch with Obama's Kevorkian Care. There are 10 million other potential solutions besides Obama's scheme, but the dogmatic, doctrinaire, ideologues who dance to Obama's tune refuse to hear of it.

If social securety is so successful, why is it going broke? What govt. programs aren't going broke? What govt. programs ever cost the American taxpayer less than what they say it will. From my experience every single govt. program ever concieved has cost me more than what Congress has promised. Why can't I just keep my money and use it to take care of me and my family like the founders of this country originally intended? And my final question," If a socialised society is so great, why do people risk their very lives to flee to capitolist societies like the one we used to have here in the USA?"

Our Government programs are the best in the World, for the most unthankful people in the World. Nothing is going Broke. As long as there is a Printing Press, we'll always have the money. Didn't we just bailed out Wall Street, that always told us to kiss it's ass? Now why is it so hard to come up with money to keep the best Social program known to man running? Some of you are talking like you hope it goes Broke, like you are so financial secured. Why don't you preach against having Unemployment Benefits why you are at it?

Social Security has paid for itself twice over, but the Congresses spent all the SS surplus money on unrelated Pork Barrels programs. Just pay Social Security back all the money that was robbed from it, and it'll be just fine. As for Obama keeping his "Cool", you had best be addressing those that attending the Town hall meetings about keeping cool. Some were walking around with guns, and others just acting like damn fools. With all the lay offs, I bet there are millions more now without any kind of Health Insurance. The Americans have lost all moral integrity.

Could the ridiculously high cost of health care in American have anything to do with why American firms are not hiring? Why is it Europe and Asia are increasing employment the news wires are saying today.........could it have anything to do with their universal health care?