I allowed as how that makes no sense to me. Surely, whether I believe that abortion should be illegal has nothing to do with who sits in the Oval Office or controls Congress that year. The Pew folks asked their poll participants to tell them why they'd changed their minds, but got very few takers. So I asked you if you had shifted positions lately. And if so, to share the reasons. I even created a special e-mail address for people who didn't want to monkey with our comments system.
More than 120 comments and e-mails later, I have some answers. But not many. By my generous count, exactly five people responded to the actual question. Most of the comments merely rehashed the same arguments about abortion that have been kicking around since at least Roe v. Wade.
A few of the other responses were at least interesting, and I'll share those, too. Two people asked a pretty good question: How do we know that people have actually changed their minds? After all, the pollsters don't call the same people year after year.
That goes to the heart of poll-taking. The assumption is that a properly drawn, representative sample is likely to tell us something about the opinions of the millions who didn't get the call. So a large enough shift in answers to the same question asked the previous year is supposed to indicate a shift in the general population.
That's the point of the error rate cited by scientific polls. It's usually presented as something like "plus or minus 3 percent." But what's left out is the front end of the entire statistical assumption, which runs something like "we have 95 percent confidence that this poll is accurate, plus or minus 3 percent." Which means that they figure the error will be larger than that just 5 percent of the time.
Maybe this poll was one of the unlucky unlikelies? It's possible. But this isn't the first time that public opinion about the legality of abortion shifted several percentage points in polls taken a year or so apart.
So let's assume that some folks really have changed their minds. Why is that?
I only got one answer that totally played by the rules -- someone who clearly stated that his or her opinion had shifted recently, along with some reasons:
"5-6 years ago I was pretty hard in favor of abortions, even to late-term abortions. Today I think a woman should have unlimited access to an abortion in the first five months of pregnancy, [conditional] abortions up to the seventh month, and after the seventh month abortions only when it critically threatens the life of the mother.
"I'd like to think that my change has been one of sophistication; basically coming to terms with the understanding that abortion isn't an absolute right and that once a woman has reached the final trimester she's essentially made her choice to have the baby. I'd probably sum it up as a slight compromise to my principles; a woman has a right to control her own reproduction but that right isn't limitless . . . just as the right to speech doesn't allow shouting fire in a theater.
"Ultimately tho I can't think of a single thing that's really changed my opinion. It's been much more gradual."
If I could give an award to this person, I'd do it. Thoughtful, responsive and civil. Brava!
Another responder didn't give a time frame, but made a point that was echoed by several others: "When I changed from pro-choice to pro-life: When I taped my firstborn's ultrasound to the fridge."
Here's another succinct and highly personal response without a time frame: "Had cancer, made a choice. Otherwise, my child would have been an orphan. What would you have done?"
Here's a long answer of the sort that leads me to think this person didn't shift position recently:
Top Ten Reasons I Changed on Abortion
10. I've found that many people so vocal about animal rights are strangely silent on unborn humans. 9. No one ever explains what happens to the fetuses after; sold for parts? or used in research? Trashed? 8. Stats say greater numbers of women who abort have breast cancer issues than those that don't. 7. Stats say only 1% of the procedures are for rape/incest; the other millions are for inconvenience. 6. Flushing away human life for being inconvenient reflects badly on an already self-centered, throw-away society. 5. The economy, stupid. From schoolbooks to housing, to stockings to the stock market, EVERYONE's prosperity depends on other people buying their products; without families reproducing, there is no market. Aborting a generation leaves a diminished customer base. 4. I would love to be a grandma myself someday. 3. It provides an easy out. Requiring a man or woman to face their parental responsibilities is sometimes the only way they will ever grow up and mature. 2. I truly don't believe God approves. And ironically, the number 1 Top Ten Reason I am against it now is: I experienced abortion myself 25 years ago and regret it to this day. It was painful, traumatic, permanently severely damaged my organs, and I still miss that child that never was. Listening to "friends" instead of my own heart, resulted in something I wouldn't wish on a dog. But then that's just me. And you asked.
Here is another person who appears to have changed her mind a while ago:
I'm one of those people who changed my mind about abortion.
I used to think it was ok and it was a woman's choice what she can do with her own body, it was her decision. I have seen too many people use abortion as birth control, as a bargaining tool, as a political statement.
As for me, and my opinion only, I believe abortion is morally wrong and I regret the abortion I had as a teenager.
I killed a child, and for that I am deeply grieved.
Here is a bit of speculation from someone whose position has not changed about why others have:
I am surprised that you have not recognized the influence that Sarah Palin had on the abortion issue in the past year. Sarah Palin is a woman who chose life and belongs to a group called Feminists for Life.
Sarah Palin not only talks the talk of a feminist for life but also walks the walk. Her example has spoken to women in a way that you will most likely never understand. . . .
My 25 year old daughter and most of her friends are prolife. So it is possible that our young people are having an influence on their parents.
Sarah Palin changed peoples' minds? Really? I get no sense that her appeal has ever gone much beyond those who were already inclined to agree with her. And it's the young folks leading the way? Here's another bit of speculation that spins the age influence the other way:
When we become older, suddenly we find out "we act and speak and voice our opinion as our mom." It's me, I'm my own mom now and don't forget the famous quote "in your 20's, you [have] no heart if you're not a liberal, in your 40's you have no brain if you're not a conservative." I regret a lot of things I did when I was young and I still live everyday with the consequences. [Life] goes on, I move on, but I was a Miss "know it all" now I'm a Mrs. "learn it all." All I said "I wish I'd not done that." You know what I mean.
One more interesting guess:
Could it be the healthcare debate? Could it be that people don't want to pay for other people's choice to abort? I mean, they might think it's okay for you to have a choice but don't want to have to pay for your reproductive plans/birth control/ whatever you call it. I think that made more a difference than moral objections. $ always wins in America.
So that's what we got. As Spencer Tracy once said of Katharine Hepburn in "Pat and Mike" : "Not much meat on her, but what there is, is 'cherse.' "
Anybody else who wants to explain why you changed your position recently, the comments light is always on.
People do change their opinions as they age. Experience allows them to see other sides of issues however, I am 54 and still think a woman should have the right to choose what is right for her.
Any choice we make at a specific time might not be the choice we'd make 20 years later but we must live with our choices (regarding anything). That choice was right at that time in our lives.
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kathy
5:32AM Oct 9th 2009
Well Jeffrey, good Article. Interesting it is!
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pmhmerc
6:43AM Oct 9th 2009
An interesting choice of subjects and a good article. The one thing that I thought when I read the article is what if these polls are right and the initial poll was the one that was off? Is that a possible solution? Although I believe polls can be off some, I also believe if a poll is taken fairly insuring no bias (choosing questions carefully that do not lead the respondent in any specific direction and actually asking the question you want an answer to without extrapolating and choosing people totally randomly) etc., it should be pretty accurate overall for the group at large for which the statistics are needed wouldn't you think?
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Cutie
7:17AM Oct 9th 2009
When I was young the idea that a woman would have to have a child that was created by incest or rape was unthinkable and legal abortion was enacted into law. I never dreamed that women would get so careless about themselves that fifty million babies would be aborted because they didn't take the pill, abstain, use a condom, etc. You can call them anything you want zygote, mass, etc. but left alone this mass of cells would have been a child. Yes, there are extenuating circumstances why women have abortions but we don't do enough to teach young women how to protect themselves. People say they don't want them but I would rather put them up for adoption and take a few than see them thrown in the garbage.
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momsandyx6
7:32AM Oct 9th 2009
I think that there are various "thinking styles" and that only the most closed minded people don't potentially shift their thinking on such major issues as their life experiences add up.
For me personally, I used to take my stand as pro-life....but I have shifted. The pro-life movement is too rigid and full of people who are very judgemental as well as prone to condemn and not really help the situation. I would rather be remembered as a pro-choice person who lovingly offered hope to a person facing such a decision, hopefully encouraging them to avoid the "throw-away" escapist mentality others mentioned and that in the end they would choose to be inconvenienced for a number of months, have the child, and offer it for adoption ( or be supported while choosing to keep it if they really feel they should.)
Anyway, America is about choice, right? Should we not focus on individual choice?
Sandy
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Lynne
7:53AM Oct 9th 2009
I agree with you. It is about choice - the most difficult personal choice a woman has to make. She should be guided by her family, friends and church but the government should remain out of her private life.
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Chris Williams
10:29AM Oct 9th 2009
"Choice" is something you have when picking out something from the supermarket not when we're talking about life, and it is life we're talking about. A fetus is growing thing and anything that's growing, is a living thing. Even though we have choices, no law in a civilized nation would allow someone else the choice over another person's life.
People who are pro-choice often fail to realize that a person has the opportunity to make a "choice" regarding a certain action. However, after making that choice, a certain consequence or reaction comes with it. To make a choice with full knowledge of the possible outcomes and to complain about the consequence afterward is a symptom of a great sickness in an irresponsible nation.
For years, women have fought to make men take responsibility for the children they make. At the same time, women fight to the "right" to abandon their children with complete impunity. This is rather hypocritical.
At the same time, I can sympathize with certain people whose concerns of the safety of women who attempt self-abortion. However, the need is not for safer means of doing the same thing but rather challenging the mindset of a women who believe such a course of action is necessary. Even in a case of rape.
My great great grandmother was raped in the fields of the South Carolina in early 1900s but she gave birth to that child and my entire family. If she thought like some today, none of us would be here.
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Eva-Marie
10:44AM Oct 9th 2009
For myself, I have made the decision that I could not abort a child. I am strongly pro-choice, however. While I agree with momsandyx6, I don't think that America has arrived at a place where girls and boys are educated enough about the many ramifications of sexual involvement - physical, spiritual, emotional, financial. We certainly haven't reached a time or place where all babies who arrive are welcomed and treated the way they should be, as a genuine gift from our Creator. Until that happens, I have to support and applaud anyone wise enough to realize that they cannot or will not be the parent that every child should have as a right.
Also, I'm curious why some commenters focus on women. While the discussion of choice should certainly center on women because the choice is and has to be theirs, the discussion of unwanted pregnancy should always involve the TWO irresponsible parties.
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Jen
1:08AM Oct 13th 2009
SO, your God thinks it is ok? If you sit back and do nothing, you are guilty too. (but I guess telling them to go ahead is alright). Oh, your Bible must have lost that line and the Ten Comandments. This is what has gone rong with America, you can't be a Christian anymore because, the so called Christians are sitting on their Bible and not reading it!
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chrishuff2
11:41AM Oct 9th 2009
Americans who so happen to be black in skin color already kill 40% of their unborn children; why would Obama NOT support unlimited abortion?
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Ruby
11:59AM Oct 9th 2009
Never would I want to go back to the days of back alley abortions that would result from making abortions illegal in the United States. But I also believe that women deserve better choices and more support by society and by their families and friends so that having the baby is also a viable choice. Abortion does not address the problems of poverty and lack of medical care that make a woman believe that her only choice is abortion. Women deserve better than abortion. For more information check out Feminists for Life: http://www.feministsforlife.org/
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michem55
12:48PM Oct 9th 2009
A rather morose suggestion: Darwinism. If those who have a belief structure that allows for abortion have more of them, they are less likely to have children, and less likely to teach that belief to their children ...... has enough time passed since we allowed abortions for this impact to show up in polls?
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Megan
1:50PM Oct 9th 2009
I am pro-choice for a simple reason. The people who chose to abort usually have no means to take care of the child, and I don't think it is fair that I have to support a country that can't provide for itself. Medicare is a prime example! Maybe all of the pro-life and other ignorant Americans should pay my taxes. Besides, all women should be allowed to decide for themselves since they will be raising the child!!
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dpelan2250
2:38PM Oct 9th 2009
I guess you have never heard of adoption.
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Jen
12:54AM Oct 13th 2009
You could move out! You realize you pay for abortions with that tax money and some do it over and over again. Plenty have medical implictaions later that you also pay for. I am an adopted person.... do you realy think is ok to kill a baby but, harm an animal in this country and it is jail time for sure. If people realized they actually had to be resposnible they would stop being so iresponsible. Maybe we should let ALL the murders out of jail! Why waist the tax money? Lets stop giving out traffic tickets, lets shut down the schools and heck empty all the jais. We'll save a fortune!!! All women should get to decide? No, God decides and God said "Thou shall NOT kill". Do you have any idea how many women have lost a baby and would give anythig to get them back? Grow up! The I am woman hear me roar attitude is not proven with abortion. Burn your bra, carry a hand gun, run for office, own a business, exercise free speach etc. but, don't be a murderer. If you stand by and watch and do nothing, you are a guilty as the one who did it. Praying for your change of heart.
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neokantian
10:25PM Oct 9th 2009
So Mr. Weiss, among the responsive comments you collected, did most changes move more pro-life, or more pro-choice, or was the distribution roughly equal? What were reasons given for any moves toward pro-choice? Thank you.
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Kate
8:08PM Oct 12th 2009
I was very pro-choice, although I had my moments where I questioned it. In college there was a chance to sign up to help walk patients to an abortion clinic, escort them, through the mob of protesters. I realized that I just couldn't participate in that, no matter how I felt about abortion being a right.
My next great brush with the question was when I found myself 23, unmarried and pregnant to a man that I didn't well know. I felt immediate remorse when I told the doctor that I was considering abortion. I knew as soon as the words left my mouth that I could never kill my own offspring. I immediately realized the regret that I would feel, that even if I became a mother later, I was saying an untimely goodbye to this child, who was special even though I didn't even know him yet. I also felt a yearning to know this baby and hold him in my arms. I still rationalized that abortion was not ok for me, but who was I to judge other women?
It took me some time and a lot of prayer on the issue, I came much more aware of the presence of a loving and forgiving God after having my son and marrying his father. I asked the Lord to clarify the question for me. The Lord gradually showed me some basic things that I was overlooking: 1. The child is as much yours as it is the father's--even if the father is an awful, hateful man that you regret knowing (and Jesus died for him too) 2. That a fertilized egg is a human life, and it is superstition/denial to believe otherwise. 3. Abortion is a decision that causes a woman deep sorrow for the rest of her life. It causes so many other problems. Making major life decisions based on fear is bound to cause regret. 4. God is always there, even in the darkest times, and Jesus meets us in the darkest times of our lives. God is perfect love and the remedy to all fear.
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The Chemist
8:28PM Oct 12th 2009
Megan, you are part of the problem, you sniveling brat.
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Jen
12:56AM Oct 13th 2009
Well said!
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zekemcc1
11:40AM Oct 14th 2009
When does life begin? Changing your answer to that question should be the only reason you change your mind at all...