And even though one of them is not a very good Democrat, she is the only one who doesnot view Team Obama's recent Fox News-bashing as mystifying, ill-considered -- and strategically speaking, very bad indeed.
The consensus among my companions, as on all the Sunday talk shows and in Washington as a whole, is that sending advisers out to challenge whether Fox is a "real,'' legit news operation has made the president look churlish, weak and distracted from Afghanistan and the caca economy. Doesn't he know that he's only elevating Fox at his own expense? (At this point, I'm guessing he's heard.)
My own reaction, on the other hand, was: Finally! And: How about saying some more true things, now that you're on such a roll?
On ABC's "This Week" with George Stephanopoulos, former Clinton chief-of-staff John Podesta described the attacks on Fox as a rare moment of giddy, "let the chips fall'' truth-telling from the White House: "[I]t seems to me they were overcome with that feeling of joy you get from telling the truth once in a while.'' (That "once in a while'' perhaps being a case in point?)
More likely, it was a bone tossed in the direction of those of us who wish the president would govern at least a little more like a one-termer, instead of worrying so excessively about winning a second four years that he might as well not have had the first.
With progressives impatient on multiple fronts, what's easier to deliver than health care reform? Why, Bill Shein's head on a platter. (Shein is Fox vice president who described his network this way: "We are the opposition.") What's a no-brainer compared to a decision on Afghanistan? I dunno, a war on the people who bring us the annual war on Christmas?
What White House Communications Director Anita Dunn said on Howie Kurtz's "Reliable Sources" on CNN is that "If we went back a year ago to the fall of 2008, to the campaign, that was a time this country was in two wars, that we had a financial collapse probably more significant than any financial collapse since the Great Depression. If you were a Fox News viewer in the fall election, what you would have seen were that the biggest stories and the biggest threats facing America were a guy named Bill Ayers and a something called ACORN."
On ABC's "This Week With George Stephanopoulos," presidential adviser David Axelrod chimed in that "the only argument Anita was making is that they're not really a news station if you watch even -- it's not just their commentators, but a lot of their news programming.
"It's really not news -- it's pushing a point of view. And the bigger thing is that other news organizations like yours ought not to treat them that way, and we're not going to treat them that way. We're going to appear on their shows. We're going to participate, but understanding that they represent a point of view." Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel repeated that message on CNN's "State of the Union," saying Fox is "not a news organization so much as it has a perspective."
I won't argue for the strategic soundness of the plan, but I do think I know who he was trying to impress, and it wasn't Glenn Beck fans. Nor do I believe he was raising the equivalent of "reasonable doubt" among less committed viewers; if Mr. "I keep it cool," has been "pushed over the brink" and is venting, it's not out of pique, but with a purpose in mind. Going after Fox News must have seemed like a sure-fire way to appeal to his own restive base. Which is not to say it didn't come with a cost.
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Wow. You're complaining that somebody broke the news about ACORN while the rest of the msm turned a blind eye? Holy moly.
You people make no sense. It's like you're all standing there watching the pretty sparks light up the night sky from a burning building while angrily lambasting people for hollering "fire!"
Do you think some of the more significant figures running the show aren't mired waist deep in the corruption surrounding ACORN? Do you think it's unrelated to the presidency? Yes, you do...apparently. Wow. All I can say is wow.
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lenny
2:17AM Oct 26th 2009
Why haven't the regular news agencies reporting how with President Obama's blessing millions of Government dollars went to ACORN after the Senate and Congress voted to stop founds. The money was from Home Land Security money and was for supposed fire detectors and fire awareness. How was Acorn going to do this after they themselves had stopped all active programs.
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Truth
3:57AM Oct 26th 2009
Progressives impatient? What a wonderfully euphemistic way of saying that Progressives are rapacious for power, and can't wait for Obama to ride roughshod over the desires of the majority, the constitution, and common sense to get his Orwellian Health Care Control.
Melinda, your comments suggest that you, and Progressives in general, want Obama to act less like an elected leader, and more like a conquerer, or at least successful revolutionary. Not surprising from the group that brought the world eugenics. Does ruthlessness and hubris come with the Progressive membership package, or are they prerequisites for membership?
Political power is the ultimate goal for Progressives, and you suggest that that goal is to be met regardless the means. What does that say about your ethics?
You endorse Obama's attacks on a news organisation, but provide no argument that justifies the unprecedented abuse of power. In fact, you seem to disappointed he hasn't been more aggressive in "saying some more truth things". Perhaps you should prove he has said ANY "truth things", since neither the Whitehouse, nor any other legit media source has provided a scintilla of refutation on the Van Jones, ACORN, NEA, or Anita Dunn stories.
Isn't it incumbent on Obama to defend himself with facts when criticised, instead of trying to isolate and bully the media source that has brought a story to light? How is it that you, who are supposedly a journalist, are not bothered by apparent media suppression tactics by a belligerent administration that isn't respecting our constitutional protection of free speech?
Podesta provides some unintended and ironic honesty when describing, accurately, the rarity of truth telling by the Whitehouse. I submit that Obama's "truth telling" left him with a feeling more akin to nausea than giddiness. The Whitehouse has no stomach for truth.
Why doesn't the Whitehouse discredit Fox News with FACTS if they aren't a legit news operation? It should be easy.
You used to work for Newsweek and the NY Times. Why haven't they discredited Fox by providing some "truth telling" on the stories Obama is having a hissy fit over? Aren't they real news operations, or are they real corrupt news operations? Imagine how giddy the Whitehouse would be if they proved Fox wrong, yet, all we see is them attacking the messenger because they can't handle the message. So far, the truth is on Fox's side, and it seldom appears on the teleprompter.
You seem as uncomfortable with truth as the Obama administration, and it shows with your clumsy wording and unintended ironies. Truth isn't political retaliation. It isn't talking points, or something you can spin. Truth is apprehended, not controlled. The Whitehouse is extremely gifted at lying. As long as they are lying, they are in control of their favorite tool, but they can't find the handle on truth.
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Goppy
7:23AM Oct 26th 2009
Really, Tammy?
Holy Moly?
LOL ... The Modern Republican Spin Machine can actually create something from nothing ... ... cracks ... me ... up.
I would bet that most Modern Republicans wouldn't even know what ACORN was ... thinking ... as FOX Skews tells them ... that it's some plot by black people to take over the world.
Y'all are just so funny.
LOOK ---- we all know why Modern Republicans hate ACORN ... it's a community outreach program. ONE PORTION of their mission is to REGISTER VOTERS.
And ... as a testament to the elemental Moral Vacancy of Modern Republicanism ... FOX and their Lemmings ... fight against this.
WHY?
Because The Modern Republican HATES OUR DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM.
In point of fact, the "Scandal" of ACORN amounted to two 'undercover' kids ... who went around to numerous ACORN offices ... pretending to be a Hooker and a Pimp ... (ain't that made to order for FOX) ...
These two were kicked out of numerous ACORN offices ... some offices even called the police ... and these two kids had to beat a hasty retreat.
Finally, they found one ACORN representative who went along with them.
And THAT'S what FOX Skews used to build the Red Herring.
----------------------- Now ... this is important ---------------
This is how Modern Republicanism's Propaganda Machine works. ... Rush .. Glenn ... Savage ... Coulter ... FOX ... they ALL use the same technique.
For any issue the Modern Republican is opposed to ... they exhaustively research some anomaly ... anything they can get their hands on that they can then RE-PACKAGE ... and sell to their gullible audience ... that validates their paranoia ... a paranoia that was already instilled in them.
It's a nice little device.
It's a Morally Vacant device.
But it's quite effective.
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But please listen ... this device is what points to the elemental Moral Vacancy of the Modern Republican.
They become OUTRAGED at ACORN ... in their attempt to REGISTER VOTERS.
But if informed that 50 MILLION Americans have no Health Care Insurance ... and CAN'T GET Insurance ... they yawn.
That ... my friends ... is pure Moral Vacancy.
I'm not saying it's immoral.
I'm saying ... there is NO Moral Foundation ... what ... so ... ever. .
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toxinmd
9:13AM Oct 26th 2009
ACORN is a moral organization. I donate to it. The FOX video is typical of an intellectually bankrupt fake news organization. Just like the Tea Party rallies were nothing but FOX and conservative business supported commercials, so was the ACORN video. I think its time to write another $1000,00 check to ACORN!
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mdarezzo
9:21AM Oct 26th 2009
Tammy, YOU ARE RIGHT ON!!! Some Of The Main Stream Media Should Start Doing Their Job And Report The News Un-Biasedly Instead Of " GETTING A CHILL UP MY LEG" When Obama Or The White House Speaks, NBC,CBS,ABC,ETC. Are All In The Tank For Obama.
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Silent Josh
9:53AM Oct 26th 2009
Truth 3:57AM Oct 26th 2009 Progressives impatient? What a wonderfully euphemistic way of saying that Progressives are rapacious for power, and can't wait for Obama to ride roughshod over the desires of the majority, the constitution, and common sense to get his Orwellian Health Care Control.
I hear Republicans say things like this a lot. All I have top say is, if Republicans are the supposed majority, why were they soundly beaten in the election? Republicans aren't the majority anymore. A poll done by (an obviously right leaning) AOL does not show the national majority. As a matter of fact, every national poll I've seen (except the ones on FOX News, go figure) have the majority WANTING the health care reform. And don't even start on the Constitution, it was Bush who used the Constitution as toilet paper in his entire presidency, what with arresting people for disagreeing with him, wiretapping phones, etc, etc. The way I feel about FOX News is this, if FOX says one thing, and EVERY other news organization I watch/read (ABC, NBC, CNN, BBC, Reuters) says the exact opposite, then logic dictates that obviously FOX is untrue.
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wanagiakicita
10:16AM Oct 26th 2009
I find it amazing that you faux fans and faux Patriots spend so much time on ACORN and how terrible you believe it to be, when you claim to be the Party of fiscal conservatism but left behind the BIGGEST national debt ever. Would you like to explain that?
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MaggieMo
10:20AM Oct 26th 2009
Josh....the article does not claim that Republicans are in the majority. Conservatives.....conservatives are in the majority. The two are not necessarily the same thing. In fact, more than ever, these days they are definitely not. That's why it's so amusing when liberals cheer and shout about the comatose state of the Republican party. It's the conservatives who have driven in the stake, not the democrats. The real challenge to the right next fall will be to keep the conservatives and Republicans from splitting the votes of all those disenfranchised, disappointed, and disallusioned Obama supporters who are now flocking to the right. As for health care reform, yes, a majority of Americans want healthcare reform, but those polls, when taken a step further, show that a majority of Americans want no part of any package currently wallowing through Congress, especially the public option. The currrent Congress ignores this caveat at its own peril.
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pmhmerc
10:26AM Oct 26th 2009
No one said liberals had to make any sense (and as a rule, they don't). Actually I ask people about news I have seen on Fox, and you know, the "real news" stations don't cover most real news. I guess they are too busy getting the white house health care propaganda out (like trying to convince people this is a done deal and all is well). Out of all the news media, Fox is the only news source that is brave enough to actually take advantage of their first amendment right to act as whistle blowers, so to speak, on our government, so the voters know what is going on and not just the rheteric presented by our elected representatives (she said in jest since they have now taken on a life of their own irrespective of those folks who put them in Washington. Our elected officials are too much into what is good for themselves and getting rich at taxpayer expense. I get that these folks in Washington are into everything for what it will do for them and DO need to be watched, but many Americans haven't really figured out that the taxpayer is going to get the short end of the stick every single time (no matter the promises made to get oneself electred), and we will also keep paying more for less until we all stand up to Washington politics as usual.
Fox at least gets that we are a constitutional republic and the Bill of Rights means something.
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doug
10:30AM Oct 26th 2009
Tammy - no one is complaining about ACORN coverage. What is being exposed is how Fox "news" ignored Bush's 2 failed wars, Bush's failed economy, and the Bush bailout of Wall St. autos, and AIG. Even those on the right should be able to prioritize events in the correct order.
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pmhmerc
10:40AM Oct 26th 2009
wanagiakicita said 10:16AM Oct 26th 2009 "I find it amazing that you faux fans and faux Patriots spend so much time on ACORN and how terrible you believe it to be, when you claim to be the Party of fiscal conservatism but left behind the BIGGEST national debt ever. Would you like to explain that?" ...................................................... Response: You apparently aren't getting much news. The current administration has spent 3 times what any other administration in the history of our country has spent and in spite of the rhetoric, because of the Obama printing of money and deficit spending, we are in deep do-do and will probably experience some very high inflation along with as many taxes and as high a tax rate as Obama can jam through Congress so he can continue to spend money in large quantities and foolishly.
And as far being patriotic. I am. the pledge of allegiance says....."I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." I owe allegiance to my country and my country has my allegiance; it does not say allegiance to this president, or any other president, who is trying to destroy our republic and our constitution.
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cjjanis
10:55AM Oct 26th 2009
pmhmerc Yes Republican messes are very costly! What would you have done? I mean a complete meltdown of the banking system and the economy? Obama didn't come up with these plans, economist did and yes they where both republicans and democrats. Do nothing and what the world slip into another depression and cost billions of lives and trillions of dollars, and like the last started a world war. Seems with the markets bouncing back and the banking system now on sound footing, the plan is working. sure there's more work to be done and you know we are not done spending. Just remember some spending comes back as saving latter on and some like war spending only cost more as time passes.
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Bonnie
12:30PM Oct 26th 2009
You see......while you are busy concentrating on Acorn, thousands of innocent lives are being lost in two "ridiculous and senseless" wars, Americans are dying because they can't afford healthcare that they need, they are losing their lives to a swine flu that is just now hitting record-breaking pandemic proportions, millions are losing their homes to foreclosures, citizens of this "once great" Nation are losing their jobs daily......and you want to know more about ACORN??? What kind of a fool are you?
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dtenore
1:16PM Oct 26th 2009
Where was the outcry when, for their full terms, Reagan, GHW Bush, and GW Bush were unfairly - and incorrectly - bashed by CNN, ABC, and later MSNBC?
He has taken ownership of GM, he's trying to take ownership of the insurance industry... now President Obama wants ownership of the media.
Will his followers ever notice?
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cjjanis
1:30PM Oct 26th 2009
Yes ACORN is a large group with hundred of thousands of members, and like any large group there will be some rotten apples. With thirty plus years of working for the poor ACORN is still a great organization with good standing. The simple fact that ACORN has protested Republicans has earned a spot on the GOP hit list. Its real simple republicans don't like people have the right to vote, they understand that the more votes cast the less likely it will benefit them. While the GOP screams about voter fraud, that ACORN is signing up thousands of fake voters, the simple truth is there was not one case of some one voting with a fake name. Now if you want to scream about voter fraud then look into vote cagging, and what Rove and Tim Griffin did to our service personal.
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jrotced02
1:37PM Oct 26th 2009
Tammy 1:43AM Oct 26th 2009
It was [...] like you, who turned a blind eye to the fact, that the very same day, 42 employees from American Airlines were arrested for smuggling cocaine into this country for over nine years, yet no one dennounced AA as a "criminal enterprise." Why? because every large organization has bad employees. You also failed to admit that the Bush administration, despite Karl Rove's war against them, gave ACORN ofer $13 million during HIS administration, including $1.7 million last year. If Acorn is "corrupt," then it only proves my point of how INCOMPETENT the bush andministration was, to give that much money to a "corrupt" organization.
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blckblt96
2:26PM Oct 26th 2009
To: Bonnie
Bonnie said: "Americans are dying because they can't afford healthcare that they need, they are losing their lives to a swine flu that is just now hitting record-breaking pandemic proportions"
We have only just hit 1000 deaths for swine flu for the year. That is about 100 per month. The regular flu kills about 30,000 people per year in the USA. That would be about 2,500 per month. So the swine flu is 1/25th as bad as the regular flu. I see you are one of the ones who has fallen for the old bait and switch tactic. "Let's get the people to focus on some BS story so they do not see what we are really trying to do." Real nice lib tactics. Seems to work on a decent amount of people.
Do a little research and start thinking for yourself. Please! Your country is counting on you and others like you to do this. While at the same time the libs are counting on exactly the opposite.
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christophish6
9:29PM Oct 27th 2009
OK..Fine.. Fox is a right leaning opinionated network.. WOW! Big news... I have no problem with Team Obama stating the obvious.. But why didn't they add that CNN, MSNBC, etc, etc... Lean far left and are just as opinionated a "news" shows?? I guess spinning the news is just fine as long as you toe the Team Obama line...
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bolo5000
2:12AM Oct 26th 2009
What a load of horse pucky Melinda.CNN has the same type of game going on and that idiot that works for ABC actually bowed to Obama or at least genuflected. I am no fan of O'Reilly,Beck or Limbaugh nor Matthews,Garafolo or Howard Stern but they are not breaking any laws by saying what they think or trying to further their political agendas. If they actually slander someone, let it go to court. If you want to help your country, demand the truth from both sides and suffer no liars or truth stretchers from either party. Demand honesty and integrity from all public officials and don't watch TV programs that twist truth by distorting facts. Please, don't say that one side started it because that will only prove that you have the intellect of a six year old.