The Ten Top (or Bottom) Moments of the Health Care Debate

Once the negative impact of the health care deform bill, on both the quality of care and our ballooning federal deficits, becomes obvious, I expect Melinda to tell us that it was all Bush's fault.
Does anyone remember when journalists reported facts, rather than their own biased interpretations?

Thanks Bob... took the words right out of my mouth. You saved me 2 minutes of my time....!

Ditto that Bob, you are now on the way of becoming PD public enemy #1.

You'd better take gary402's heed. The next thing is, they will start deleting your posts--because anything of a conservative viewpoint is ruled "offensive" to them. The truth hurts the "progressives".

This MODERATELY Conservative PD site is NOW far less profane, exhibiting far better article depth and quality (Generally) than it's predecessor Political Machine ever was, thanks to Melinda's keen insight and pragmatism!

As for .000 truf's false claim of censorship explained via PARANOIA while always forgetting to hit REPLY, then followed by the return key or even noticing how posts cascade DOWN, that poser has never recovered since losing his virginity to Falwell...

Removing your remaining intelligence from the toilet BEFORE you flush next time, may be less embarrassing RWERZ..

So it's basically like all media coverage. We can't get a fair synopsis of what happened because of their bias. Stating, in quotes things the journalist obviously disagrees with as though it's ludicrious...and praising the dems. Same old story. That's why no one watches the regular news networks or CNN or MSNBC and also why Obama doesn't want us to watch Fox. Fox gives both sides...CNN and MSNBC indoctrinate. What conservative is ever on those networks? Fox has regular contributors who are liberal democrats. Fair and balanced.

Well, I guess Obama is going to have to put me in prison because I want to be free. When this health care mandate finally passes I am going to refuse to sign up for it, and refuse to pay the fine, and then I will be sentenced to prison for nothing more than a desire to be free and independent from big government. I don't want health care. I want to take care of myself. But now I am not allowed that freedom. Now for the first time in history I will be forced to participate in government and forced to comply with the will of the government no matter what I do to be free and independent. November 7, 2009 was the day the "free country" of America died. It's over. Obama will have me hunted down and put in jail because all I wanted was to be free and independent. No more freedom and independence America. We must all submit to the will of government or go to prison. I can't believe some of you are giddy with joy over this fact.

LOL... Carey ... REALLY?

Obama is going to put you in jail?

Cracks me up ... you sound like my son ... when he was 6 ... ... after he broke a cookie jar...

"Well, I guess mommy is going to put me in da jail."

"What for son?"

"I broked the cookie jar."

"Do you think you deserve to be put in jail?"

"I guess so ... my friend says that when people do bad things they go to jail."

"Well son ... wasn't it an accident that you broke the cookie jar?"

"Yes ... "

"Why don't you go out to play, son ... you're not going to jail."

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Carey ... why don't you go out to play ... you're not going to jail.

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LMAO Goppy 6:33 PM!

But hey if Carey boosts some cars, gets busted, becomes imprisoned... and then 'by law' gets free food & Health Care...

Then everything turns into a Valid Nostradamus foreseen; de ja vue...

...Negating the bad karma of illegally not noting any of many VALID "Scientology, Poverty, etc.", exceptions to mandated Health Care participation, as are always available.

The lord works in mysterious ways Goppy (The Gamblers Tennessee Williams).

NY23rd was a GOP MORTAL LOCK, but.....AMERICA STILL REJECTS their lying, BS, cowardly clown leaders. Only ass backwards GOP supporters see losing a seat they had for 100 years as a WIN. Healthcare reform passed the HOUSE with 220, they needed 218..subtract the 2 SEATS they lost LAST TUESDAY, and the ONE repuke and you have ....drum roll please.........217.
HAAAAAAAAAAAAA....SUCKERS.

I can see bob doesn't pay for his insurance.

Bob,

Perhaps it was because the Republicans acted like mentally-challenged children during the "debate" and as usual brought no substance to the conversation. Much like your post.

Your Welcome!

First what do you mean that you're saving the Republicans 2 minutes and the Democrats 8? Are you saying that the Democrats will actually take the time to read the article and the Republicans only scan it? What I walked away with from your comment is that, like most on the right, you expect that those who side with you will take your word for the content and not be persuaded to read the article. Thus Hannity, Limbaugh, and Beck make their livings by responding to the need of the right to not trouble themselves to actually examine anything and be "ditto heads." It's about time that you all become a little better informed by taking in the information for yourselves. Of course if you were ready to do this, lie like 'death panels' and the 'birther' movement's basic premise wouldn't be able to gain popularity.

OMW the statement was pretty straightforward and you just proved that it was right on the money. You read all sorts of stuff into my post that wasn't there. And you're a Democrat. Which is why it takes you 8 minutes to read something that shouldn't take anymore than 2.

Craig,

Of course I pay for my insurance. It comes out of my paycheck every week. You and the others who support this bill would like me to pay not only for mine, but yours as well. Because to you, that's fair. That others pay for your health insurance because you haven't the wherewithal to provide your own.

I used to be self employed and self-insured and the costs got undoable for me. Instead of whining about it and insisting it wasn't fair and insisting the government do something about it, I got myself a job that allowed me to pay a lot less. I made changes because they ultimately worked out to my benefit, even though at first they weren't ideal.

There's nothing novel about that. That's how you get along on life. You don't wait around until the Democrats get the majority and then give you all sorts of stuff, only to have it taken away when more rational people take their place. You take care of yourself, you take care of your family and you do what you have to do to get by. If more people who CAN do that actually did it, there'd be more resources for the people who actually can't do it.

This is the mentality these days. I want to do this, I don't want to be told I can't do this, it's my right to do this and if this doesn't work out the way I want it to somebody (aka The Government) needs to step in and make it work out for me.

Take charge of your life. Grow a pair. Stop being an adult baby.

LOL ... EVERYONE that disagrees with the Modern Republican is ... an O-bot!!

Funny how EVERY Right Wing FOX watcher says the EXACT same thing ... ... as if they are programmed ... ... like ... ... ROBOTS!!

LOL .... I swear ... I think that foreigner ... Rupert Murdoch ... has rotted your brains!
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Lay off the FOX ... it's bad for your mental health.
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If the House healthcare bill becomes law, small businesses and the wealthiest, most productive Americans can expect to pay massive new taxes.

The bill also includes hidden fees and excise taxes that will fall heavily on the elderly.

Under the Pelosi bill, citizens reporting income more than $500,000 and married couples earning more than $1 million would be slapped with a 5.4 percent surtax on all income above those thresholds.

The Wall Street Journal notes that, “after taking into account the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, those people would face a marginal tax rate of 45 percent.”

Small businesses also will suffer.

Very small companies — those with payrolls of less than $500,000 — will be exempted. But others will be slammed with new taxes — up to 8 percent of their payroll – if they don’t offer insurance as dictated by the Pelosi bill.

The Joint Committee on taxation says that the surtaxes will raise $460.5 billion over 10 years, with almost a third of that amount coming from small business.

The Washington-based Americans for Tax Reform outlines other taxes the will result if the Pelosi bill is passed:

Employer Mandate Excise Tax (Page 275): If an employer does not pay 72.5 percent of a single employee’s health premium (65 percent of a family employee), the employer must pay an excise tax equal to 8 percent of average wages. Small employers (measured by payroll size) have smaller payroll tax rates of 0 percent (