The Backstory Behind the Decision to Try the 9/11 Plotters in N.Y.

Luette - The President wants to "stall" the investigation of Maj Nadal? Maybe that's the way Fox "news" spins it, and you are happy to repeat that lie, but the fact is, the President has asked Congress to delay it's investigation until after the military and local authorities have concluded their investigation. As for trying those responsible for 911, this is the best way to go. They are criminals; they have no legitimacy as a political movement or govt, and should be tried as the murderers they are, and nothing else.

Goppy is talking about George Soros, he is the one that buys and sells countries. Murdoch is just a businessman and has no hidden agenda. He just wins the business game. Soros keeps running at a loss just to supply the liberals with a propaganda machine that is sinking like the Titanic.

I've told Goppy before that he/she/it is just the other half of the problem. Now I will say it to anyone else who has bought into the two party farce deliberately designed to convince WE, The People that WE have sides to choose, something to stand for or that WE even matter at all. While you all bicker between yourselves, politicians in BOTH parties conspire to rob WE, The People with policies that funnel OUR money right up the food chain, right under our noses and into the pockets of the REAL enemy that WE, The People share.

The Big O is no different than the rest, huge deficits to fund huge conglomerates like Goldman Sachs and the entire financial industry, Organized labor, Organized Religion and now he is working on enslaving millions more customers [many of them unwilling] and granting exponentially larger profit margins to Public Enemy #1 - The Insurance Industry; you know, the AIGs of the world that got billions from US and billions more outside the TARP fiasco from the Feds? Who do you think has to pay all that back? Not THEM, but WE ... The People!

To show how little Liberals care about WE, The People just look to the first thing The Big O signed as president - The extension of S-CHIP coverage to 4 million additional children. On the surface it looks good, right? Unfortunately, it relies on millions of average Americans continuing to kill themselves with a $0.68/pack tax on cigs which falls mostly on the middle class - you know, that group he told would not see their taxes go up one dime? It was indirect support of the Tobacco industry from a president [who coincidentally smokes].

Question: Splash, How is taxing tobacco products a support of the Tobacco industry? I'm glad you asked. If the government is going to count on tax on tobacco to fund enslave children's at such an early age to government health care then they must insure the survival of the tobacco industry. THEY DON'T CARE IF YOU KILL YOURSELF BY SMOKING! In fact, the government hopes you do ... all the way to the bank! And when those children grow up, the government hopes that they smoke too.

And just look how much The Big O cares about WE, The People that he would wait until unemployment topped 10% with no sign of stopping in order to call a 'jobs summit': http://wp.me/pywxb-Mg

But let's not leave out the 'Modern Republican Party' as Goppy calls them. Put simply, the Rs are no longer true Conservatives like Goldwater and Reagan; They are spineless moderates infected by the Religious Right for no other reason than to get more votes; folks like W, and his daddy before or John McCain. You don't really think they want to save babies so they can grow on Liberal S-Chip and grow up to vote Democrat, do you?

Moderate Republicanism is the Price Is Right of politics -- as close to Liberal as one can get without going over. And thus, THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. And there is a reason for it. Politicians don't work for WE, The People. WE have proven time and time again that WE will reward them with re-election no matter what they do. Thus OUR politicians work for the special THEM [some of THEM you know, but most of THEM you don't].

Who Are THEY and what do THEY want? http://wp.me/pywxb-Kn

THEY are rich beyond OUR wildest imagination, they are ruthless and the only ones who can defeat them are WE, The People AND THEY KNOW IT!

So who powerful are WE, The People? http://wp.me/pywxb-JO

WE, The People showed how powerful WE can be last November when we took a nobody and made him president. WE showed it again this past August [actually starting back in March '08] when WE realized he was no different than the rest of them. Both times the power of WE, The People was divided against itself. To defeat our true common enemy, WE, The People will have to be UNITED! Divided WE will lose, but if WE unite then THEY don't have a chance in hell ... and THEY know it!!

We will be raising an army soon ... not an armed army ... it will be much better than that!

The Washington Post story was pure, reguritated propaganda, spoon fed by Holder to the Post, who then fed it anyone dumb enough to swallow it.

The reason Holder is insisting on the trials being held in New York is that he expects the intended consequence to be a character assassination of Bush. It is all about cynical political manipulation, and Holder is using the terrorists defense lawyers to "prosecute" Bush, while he prosecutes the terrorists. He may just be a little too cute for this nations own good.

Holder is gambling, as usual, with the well being of the nation, for the chance to attack Bush indirectly. It could backfire magnificently, especially if he fails to get convictions, or there is a terrorist incident in New York as a result of Holder's Machiavellian strategy.

It may have already backfired. Holder's suspicious decision follows Obama's attempt to delay any Congressional Ft. Hood investigation, which comes on the heels of his odd, inappropriate response to the Ft.Hood terrorist attack, and his curiously selective call to avoid a "rush to judgement". Obama isn't slow to judgement when he wants to be, even if he has NO facts, as proved in GatesGate. All of these choices by Obama and Holder add to the increasing questions of MOTIVE that people in this country are asking.

Everything Obama and Holder do is some kind of political theater, frequently with dual purposes.

Why does Obama want to delay Congressional investigations of the Ft. Hood terror attack? Is it because he wants to tamp down the feeling we are at war with radical Islam, so pulling out in Afghanistan won't be politically damaging?

Or, is there some directive he is responsible for that imposed restraints on the military, or FBI, that are based in political correctness, that will put the responsibility for Hasan not being kicked out of the military, or arrested, at his doorstep?

Why does he want to delay judgement on whether Ft. Hood was a terrorist attack? Is he afraid support for the war on terror will increase if there is a clear and obvious enemy?

Is the terrorist trial being held in Federal Court, in New York, a tactic to distract the nation, and keep the news media overwhelmed with the trials so they ignore other potentially bad news?

Is Holder putting New York in the bullseye of the terrorists again, and sweetening the pot by having the trial near the site of the evil murder of 3000 people? Is Holder even remotely aware of how the people who lost loved ones, or the citizens in general, feel about his decision?

Is Holder trying to destroy our intelligence apparatus intentionally? This trial will expose secrets best left secret.

Is Holder remotely concious of the fact that this gives the terrorist a victory by putting them in the media center of the world, instead of being tried in a military court, where the circus won't be tolerated? Or is he doing this in spite of, or expressly because of the circus that will ensue? Is it to really damage Bush, distract the nation, glorify himself, other reasons, or all of the above?

It will go down in history as an infamous decision that precipitated disastrous events that will inevitably follow.

PUNDIT you say it so eloquently, and so TRUE, they know the twofer is a coming.


start them thar WAR CRIMES TRIALS as your BURYING the ASSWIPE TERRORISTS at the same time..

you got that right chief, thats their worry.

you are so right obama just wants his buddies to get a chance to get away an than he wants congress to delay any investgation of ft hood i be worry america we have one right in the white house

It doesn't make sense to me that terrorists would return to the city it bombed just because some trials are going on. The terrorists abroad have more pressing objectives. I mean, if they had the trials at Gitmo, would the terrorists attack Gitmo. No.

Trying terrorists responsible for the worst attack in U.S. history in the same place they attacked is more like poetic justice since its more than likely they'll be found guilty. This stir about where the trials are held is just rabble-rousing in an effort to criticize the the current administration at any chance presented. I live in New York City and I'm not afraid at all.

I think Holder and Obama are right. Why not give these terrorist all the rights of a United States resident. Why not give them a chance at freedom again. Maybe they can be freed. I heard Holder say he was confident he could get a conviction. What is wrong with that? We need to abolish the Military Courst System the military lawyers don't get paid tens of millions of dollars to got to trial like the lawyers (on the taxpayer dollar) that will try and get these poor terrorist off. I think the terrorist have a right to speak to the world, the world stage will be good for all Americans. We have nothing to fear from these guys, right?

Luette, you, like others on this site are not only wrong, but LOUD WRONG.
a) The second worst terrorist attack on US Soil was the bombing of the Federal Building in Oklahoma City. A true terrorist attack against our govt for political purposes. An attack from the far right.

b) Obama is not asking to delay justice for Hasan, like Bush and Cheney did, delaying the trials of hundreds of real terrorists. The prosecution of Hasan in military court will continue, he just wants to delay a Congressional investigation because all the facts are not in. Nobody knows if this was a terrorist attack or the work of a deranged nut driven by a distorted view of his religion. Leiberman and his buddies will turn this into a circus for political gain and stir up further divisions in this country.
Terrorism has a legal definition. Hasan may be no more of a terrorist than a guy who walks into his job and kills his co-workers. We will know when we understand his motive and have the facts.
It would be a shame to dishonor the good people who lost their lives at Ft Hood by using their deaths for political gain. Lets take the high road
like our military leadership and our Commander In Chief and try this man and hopefully find the truth. Its amazing to me that the same folks who are blaming Obama for somehow "delaying" an investigation of the Ft Hood
incident are complaining about the 9/11 terrorists finally going to trial in Federal Court. Most of the people on this site care nothing about truth and justice and our American principals. Its all about politics.

I'm against the death penalty. Kill a person in a cage? sick sht! Build a prison on Mars so they can look out at the planet they tried to destroy?

Obama just won't take "guilty" for an answer. KSM was all set to plead guilty in a military court approved by Congress and be executed. We would have some closure and justice would have been served. But now, we will have a 3 ring circus. These terrorists love the limelight and Obama has given it to them on a silver platter. All of these barbarians have already admitted their roles in 9/11. I think Obama is still campaigning against Bush/Cheney, for whatever reason, and is hoping that the terrorists put up a defense of attacking the Bush administration policies that have kept us safe for so long.

So when our troops are captured by enemy forces they could face the same gruesome treatment?

You can't be the country who holds everyone to the rules but be the first one in line to break them. It shows that we are liars and not credible just like the people we're trying to stop. And the next time when we need help in bringing down our enemies, our allies would be more justified in questioning our intentions and sitting it out like Canada.

But wasn't Bush your successful attempt at embarrassing America??

He started a war, announced it was won...8 years later we are still fighting?

Inherited a surplus and left office with us holding the bag for his Great Recession.

Was so afraid of the Rule of Law he skirted it time and time again to spy on Americans.

So afraid of the Rule of Law that he did away with Habeus Corpus and made Torture as American as apple-pie.

Folks like daballsofdisease will always be the first to whine if folks do unto them what they do unto others.

Isn't utterly amazing how easily Republicans give up democracy in the name of security. I guess that is what happens when white-trash is the party base.

Ben Franklin would be horrified at how pathetic some Americans are.

Obama took the patriot act and tripled the intrusive nature of it. I was afraid that when they passed it the commies would get there hands on it and look what happened. The president has a hit list. Never trust a commie with a piece of wire.

Question: Did the waterboarding make you confess to anything that wasn't true.

Mohammed: No Dude, the waves were really ripping. Gitmo is a great place to ride the waves.

What would Obama know about military rule of law or the Uniform Code of Military Justice. HE NEVER HAD THE GUTS TO ENLIST! And he thinks working as a community organizer is the same? HA,HA,HA!!!!!!