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Obama Pardons a Turkey, Pastor Spares a President (Coincidence?)
Perhaps they are fitting signs that the season of good will is at hand. President Obama pardoned a turkey, and Pastor Wiley Drake said he'd stop praying for Obama's death.
Wiley, a Southern Baptist pastor from Southern California who gained notoriety (and a Secret Service visit) last June after announcing on a Fox News Radio broadcast that he was praying for Obama's death, says he has changed his mind. Now, Drake is praying for Obama to live -- so that he can be put on trial for treason and executed.
"I am calling for all of God's people and prayer warriors to cease the imprecatory prayer, and pray for Mr. Obama's PROTECTION until he can be properly tried for treason," Drake said in a recent statement. As he explained to Religion News Service on Nov. 24, "We want him alive so we can prosecute him and then give him the death penalty."
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Well, I guess that's a start, but Drake's explanation of his epiphany may raise other questions. According to Drake, a former second vice president of the Southern Baptist Convention who was the vice presidential running mate in 2008 to Alan Keyes, his change of heart resulted from watching a Nov. 18 video sermon by James David Manning, pastor at ATLAH World Missionary Church in New York.
"I have asked men everywhere please do you no harm," Manning said in remarks he addressed to "Barack Hussein the long-legged mack daddy Obama," according to the Associated Baptist Press. ("Mack daddy," as ABP notes, is slang "for a slick womanizer or conspicuously successful pimp.")
No word from the Southern Baptist leadership on Drake's latest take, but even the White House turkey got a no-hard-feelings trip to Disneyland along with his pardon. And that's just a few miles down the interstate from Wiley's church. (Coincidence, or providence?)
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Wiley, a Southern Baptist pastor from Southern California who gained notoriety (and a Secret Service visit) last June after announcing on a Fox News Radio broadcast that he was praying for Obama's death, says he has changed his mind. Now, Drake is praying for Obama to live -- so that he can be put on trial for treason and executed.
"I am calling for all of God's people and prayer warriors to cease the imprecatory prayer, and pray for Mr. Obama's PROTECTION until he can be properly tried for treason," Drake said in a recent statement. As he explained to Religion News Service on Nov. 24, "We want him alive so we can prosecute him and then give him the death penalty."
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Well, I guess that's a start, but Drake's explanation of his epiphany may raise other questions. According to Drake, a former second vice president of the Southern Baptist Convention who was the vice presidential running mate in 2008 to Alan Keyes, his change of heart resulted from watching a Nov. 18 video sermon by James David Manning, pastor at ATLAH World Missionary Church in New York.
"I have asked men everywhere please do you no harm," Manning said in remarks he addressed to "Barack Hussein the long-legged mack daddy Obama," according to the Associated Baptist Press. ("Mack daddy," as ABP notes, is slang "for a slick womanizer or conspicuously successful pimp.")
Drake took Manning's charitable counsel to heart, and issued a statement the next day "calling for all of God's people and prayer warriors to cease the imprecatory prayer." Imprecatory prayer is essentially praying for "bad things to happen to bad people" (as this RNS story explains), and it draws on some Old Testament traditions, such as David praying to God to vanquish his enemies. Imprecatory prayer is rarely used today -- or at least few want to admit to it, much less boast about it -- and Southern Baptists leaders last June rejected Drake's Christian fatwa."I do not want to see anyone attempt, dream about, think about or ever discuss assassinating you," Manning continued. "It is most important to you and to my savior Jesus that you live, and that you live a long life, but that you live that we might be able to bring you to trial. You see if someone does you harm, and you are not able to be brought to trial, then we lose the opportunity of proving our statements that you are not the president of the United States of America. You are not. You are an illegal alien, a usurper."
No word from the Southern Baptist leadership on Drake's latest take, but even the White House turkey got a no-hard-feelings trip to Disneyland along with his pardon. And that's just a few miles down the interstate from Wiley's church. (Coincidence, or providence?)
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gnmk09
2:52PM Nov 27th 2009
The attitude of this so-called Pastor is just disgusting.
You don't pray Obama out of office...you vote him out...2012 is around the corner!!!
You don't pray Obama out of office...you vote him out...2012 is around the corner!!!
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bonbon
3:12PM Nov 27th 2009
GOD what a joke.
the writer, the so called pastor, and the president. included.
any minister or church memeber who prays for someone's death or is happy when thousands die, screaming GOD DAMN AMERICA and anyone who sits there and believes every word, and hears all that is said and one, who participated on a daily basis for over 20 years and counting, are assholes all around,
no matter which side they are from.
PERIOD
and anyone who thinks pardoning of a turkey which is done every year, making this one no different than any other year thus far , a coincidence because the bird is headed to a location near that pastor, needs a reality check. they have nothing in common.
but I guess you think this is funny, sorry the humur is lost.
but I am sure Little jr, Goofy the pseudo christian and their minions will see the humur in t, as it fits them to a tee.
But the pastors change of opinion has nothing to do with a change of heart, more likely from pressure to tone it down.
and he simply is seizing the growing momentum of the cry for impeachment, and using it as his platform.
GOD HELP US ALL
the writer, the so called pastor, and the president. included.
any minister or church memeber who prays for someone's death or is happy when thousands die, screaming GOD DAMN AMERICA and anyone who sits there and believes every word, and hears all that is said and one, who participated on a daily basis for over 20 years and counting, are assholes all around,
no matter which side they are from.
PERIOD
and anyone who thinks pardoning of a turkey which is done every year, making this one no different than any other year thus far , a coincidence because the bird is headed to a location near that pastor, needs a reality check. they have nothing in common.
but I guess you think this is funny, sorry the humur is lost.
but I am sure Little jr, Goofy the pseudo christian and their minions will see the humur in t, as it fits them to a tee.
But the pastors change of opinion has nothing to do with a change of heart, more likely from pressure to tone it down.
and he simply is seizing the growing momentum of the cry for impeachment, and using it as his platform.
GOD HELP US ALL
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(1) sara2u2
7:35PM Nov 27th 2009
Sounds like Pastor Drake doesn't know what he want 2 do as a minister,I wonder if thats waht he was taught in seminary school,or did he attend? and what kind of a conguation he has what i do know is there is a lots of kooks out there, some are in the church 2.Pastor Drake sure seems 2 have some issues with himself/soul
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(1) David
4:21PM Nov 27th 2009
It's things like this that reinforce my non-belief in any superior being. Well, let me amend this. Just about any being (from cockroaches on up the food chain) are superior to this "pastor."
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(-1) bonbon
6:26PM Nov 27th 2009
doesn't it make you wonder if he and Wright may have gone to the same seminary,
seems they both seem to take pleasure in other peoples deaths.
and I always believed a person who devoted themselves to a church, or to God was supposed to believe in and teach peace and love. not murder nor racism and hate mongering.
to David
myself and my husband very much believe in God, we do not however believe in ORGANIZED RELIGION
such as Tammy Faye and Jim Baker, Billy Gtaham, Jimmy Swaggart, Jerry Fallwell or the dozens and dozens of TV evangelist.
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(-4) altollew
4:53PM Nov 27th 2009
almost a year into his first year and obama finnaly makes a decision
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(3) bonbon
6:08PM Nov 27th 2009
what decision, it was an act, one every president has done for many years now,
but it is something he is good at, acting that is,
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but it is something he is good at, acting that is,
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(7) gvpal52
1:39AM Nov 28th 2009
I thought his saved or created joke was in very poor taste under the cercomstances. Thousands of jobs where lost in the time he took to make fun of jobless claims. Sick stuff!
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(7) gvpal52
1:41AM Nov 28th 2009
I think Obama should be the one asking for a pardon one of these days, soon!
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(10) gvpal52
1:57AM Nov 28th 2009
I have prayed for God to disarm my enemies and protect me from them or to change someones angry heart to one that is filled with peace. I would fight in a war to protect people from an armed aggressor that I believed to be evil in there intent. That might not even fly at the gate but that's just me.
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(3) gvpal52
2:44AM Nov 28th 2009
maggie, I went I read it and all I can say is that the congress better step in and get this to the courts. He is going to do it! He wants us pinned down by radicals, and he wants to feed the bad actors tools to hold us down. Everyone should google this and read it.(Copenhagen Consequences for American Sovereignty). Very serious business and if he signs it he should be considered an enemy upon return. He should be arrested and charged with treasonous acts and forfeiture of our constitutional rights. There has to be a way to stop him!
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(1) jack
11:25AM Nov 28th 2009
lets all vote in 2012 we can pardon him when we vote him out of office cant wait
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(6) maggie
12:32PM Nov 28th 2009
CAN'T WAIT is right! This country of OURS cannot continue on the course b.o. is taking it. Three more years of this just AINT gonna cut it! We are banding together more and more. We need to search and read and understand our rights more than ever at this time. Also, read and search and understand the rights b.o. DOESN'T have! His administration, also.
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(6) ruben
2:09PM Nov 28th 2009
Plain detractors are dismayed that she is not about to vacate the public stage. Good it will be the kiss of death for her lunatic conservative movement.
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(-8) jdmoon49
4:15PM Nov 28th 2009
count me in . i'll pray for comrade obama. psalm 109:8
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(3) mstrpaul1
4:40PM Nov 28th 2009
Lets pardon congress for being jerks and not fixing the bad bills they have written.. Take ERISA a law the wrote with more loopholes than swiss cheese, and allows insurance companies to cancel long term disability insurance polices after a short period ot time, becuase they can since the law has no guildelines and allows them to write whatever they want and to be judge jury and denier. Go to youtube and see the video's by disabledvictim and learn the truth!
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(2) Uncle Eddy
6:39PM Nov 28th 2009
How's this for a Debate: the great Rev. Drake and the wonderful Rev. Wright. It would be interesting. In Las Vegas and Atlantic City they can wager who has God on their side.
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(2) Uncle Eddy
6:41PM Nov 28th 2009
The Republicans think Sarah Palin is up for the job.
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(2) Charles Carter
9:39PM Nov 28th 2009
Obama lied when he said it was the first turkey he pardoned. He pardoned all those Democrat tax dodgers and socialist America haters.
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(2) gvpal52
10:23PM Nov 28th 2009
It is good to know and I don't think the senate will chance it right now, so this could be good news. They have to start saying no one of these days or we will lose the ship! Where the hell are these so called Blue Dogs and New Democrats?
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