Nothing in this bill lowers health care , nothing , notta , zilch . Why can't they work on lowering the cost ? WTF

This bill helps no one but the government.It provides cover for their financially broken programs(Social Security,Medicare,Medicaide)Bad for everyone but those who carry lady liberty's purse.

CBO just released new numbers, instead of saving $2,500.00 per family as Obama promised, the Senate bill is now estimated to cost an extra $5,000.00 per family. $7,500.00 swing.
Unions leaders are pushing this health care bill because many of their members are supposed to be covered in retirement and the money has been squandered.

Another problem if they pass it is that it will be next to impossible to undo. If Obama can take his time deliberating on whether or not to succeed in Afghanistan, a much more time critical situation, then why can't we take our time deliberating a gov't takeover of something that will affect everyone's lives and something that could potentially bankrupt America?

Premiums go up every year....no news there. Coverage goes down every year...no news there. What you are fighting against is yourselves. If a public option passes insurance companies will be forced to compete in states where they control the market.

This is just another lie put out there by the "progressives" to alienate voters against health insurance companies. Please do your research before you spread those lies. The health insurance industry earns approximately a 3% profit--and that is a fact! You want everyone covered, but you want "someone else" to pay for it! Health care is EXPENSIVE! The only REFORM we need is to get health care costs down. ObamaCare RAISES, not LOWERS health care costs for everyone. It truly costs over $6 TRILLION per year, and will DESTROY our country.

My poor dear, your anger ("Momsmad") has short-circuited your reasoning ability. If you had any knowledge of the healthcare industry, business in general, and the current existing government healthcare systems (e.g., Medicare, VA) you would know better than to make the comments you spouted.

It is a fact that health insurance companies make an after-tax profit of between 3 - 5%, a very low percentage in comparison to many other industries, especially when you consider the liabilities for which they are at risk and the government regulations that are piled upon them. Yes my poor dear, government already heavily regulates the insurance industry and do you not realize just how much all that government "hands on" costs you the policy holder and now you want to add more on top of what already exists (thinking that costs will as a result decrease)??

Evidently you have not read much of the bills being proposed, for if you had you would realize that the democrats in congress and Obama are "cooking the books" when it comes to their cost projections. First, they are proposing of cutting upwards of $500 billion from Medicare, and then shifting more of that cost burden over onto the states - many of whom which have the largest Medicare-eligible population are already in perilous financial straits. Second, senator Reid's proposal would kick in the revenue stream from added taxes and penalties beginning next year (if passed), yet the system would not go on line as fully functional until 2014. So when they talk about their "deficit savings" over the next 10 years remember they are factoring in ten years worth of revenue stream yet offsetting it by only 6 years of expenses! Any business endeavor can show a profit or debt reduction with that type of accounting.

You rail against those big bad insurance execs who deny people their coverage or procedures. I have a news flash for you - Medicare (remember, that government-run health care system) denies more procedures than any private health insurance company ever has.

In addition you probably also believe in that number the democrats are bandying about of just how many Americans are without health insurance - the purported 52 or so million. Here's another news flash for you - that number, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics has broken that number down and it consists of several million illegal aliens, young people who could have coverage but opt not to, etc until you get down to around 12 million or so without coverage - roughly 4% of the population. Of those, many will be without coverage for less than a year, reducing that number to an even smaller amount who are perpetually without coverage.

Let me also point out that insurance coverage is not a "right" - try reading the Declaration of Independence and our Constitution; you won't find it anywhere near the rights described in those documents. The proposals would force citizens to either buy insurance that they may not want or pay added penalties, taxes and possibly go to jail for not "playing along", all of which is totally unconstitutional. If you would like some reading along what are our rights I would recommend the following blog site: http://anantifederalist.wordpress.com.

I'd also recommend for your reading an editorial in Friday's Washington Post by Pulitzer Prize winner Charles Krauthammer: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/25/AR2009112503607.html?sid=ST2009112503662

IMHO Charles Krauthammer is the best journalist of our time. He is also very independent in his writing.

And your answer to the so called corruption is to let politicians in charge of it. Even your boy Obama has said there is 50 billion of corruption in Medicare. Look at what they did to Fannie Mae - Broke.
Post office - broke. FDIC - broke. Social Secirity - broke.
Why would anyone trust politicians with health care. And there only answer will be, MORE TAXES.

Lonnie, I agree with you. Let's add one more and that is to throw out the bum doctors. By that I mean those who have lost seven or more malpractice lawsuits. If these so called doctors were thrown out it is my belief that malpractice premiums would be reduced 50% and patients will get better care.