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That said, I probably agree with some 80 percent of the traditional feminist platform without aligning myself with the term whole-heartedly. What I find particularly amusing about Sarah Palin et al.'s embrace of the word "feminist" is that her philosophical foremothers have spent the last four decades ripping the term apart. I discussed this in this past weekend's WomanUp video.What is tragic in the writer's example is that an unmarried mother of 4 could not keep her legs shut...
June 17 2010 at 1:51 PM Report abuse Permalink +2 rate up rate down ReplyTo start, I feel shasted by this article. I read it to view this authors idea on abortion, it seems all I got was a small paragraph, a common paragdim when I read most mainstream pro-choice blurbs.
Abortion in itself is tragic, there is absolutely no two-ways about it. A woman who has a medically needed abortion, could've lost a wanted and loved child, if that's not tragic; I don't know what it. In your unrealistic and stretched scenario unlikely to happen in the real world, I agree with the comments that the woman should really understand what causes babies and what doesn't. I would question the ability of a single parent of 4 children who was neither financially or emotionally stable to raise a 5th child. It seems to me the differences between 4 and 5 are just splitting hairs. Say she has an abortion, the world is seeminly unchanged. A child did not come into the world. One life was altered, no one cared about that soul, about that life force that every living creature has. Say she gives birth and give her child to a childless couple, the world is enriched! The world shines a little brighter with a happy and well taken care of child to add their mark into humanity. So should we really be praising the abortion gods for creating such a "wonderful" medical procedure and making it available to us? Either scenario, in the case of abortion a woman has lost a child to death, something I've been through a multitude of time. When that act has become completely stoic and pointless to humanity as a whole is a time when I no longer want to be part of it.
To be technical, the woman giving her child away for adoption is also her losing the child, but she's losing them to a better life she can't provide; which is nothing short of a miracle.
A human life was lost, there's no disputing that. There are LAWS against killing a fetus because it is a valued member of society. For those who inevitably will react to the first question of this paragraph, riddle me this; What is a woman pregnant with? Because if you answer she's pregnant with an undead, non-human alien of a non-being, a clump of useless cells (which is all any human is), or an unthinking shred of stem cells (a scientific study reported on July 16th, 2009 proved that a fetus has a memory and can retrieve that information that happened a month before); I simply won't believe you.
"What is much more tragic from my perspective is the situation of a pregnant, unmarried, mother of four who, for lack of access to abortion, brings yet a fifth child into the world."
From MY perspective is the fact that this hypothetical woman hasn't figured out what the PROBLEM is here. She is a breeding machine. What's TRAGIC is that she doesn't practice BIRTH CONTROL. Lacking that, perhaps she should practice CELIBACY. Besides, if she didn't abort the previous 4 kids, why would she want to abort the 5th? Secondly, what you are saying is that any woman who is pro-life CANNOT be a feminist. The litmus test for feminism in your world is abortion. Abortion defines a feminist. Wow. That's so intellectually dishonest that I pity you. By the way. If you actually KNEW HOW TO RIDE A HORSE, you'd know that it isn't logical for men to ride side saddle. The reason women rode side saddle is that in the old days, when the horse was a means of transportation, women wore dresses. They couldn't straddle the horse with the dress on, so rather than wear pants, which women didn't do, they sat side saddle, rather than have the dress hiked up to their waist, exposing themselves.
Well said! My thoughts exactly!
June 16 2010 at 4:41 PM Report abuse Permalink -1 rate up rate down ReplyWithout any religious convictions I would agree abortion is murder. However if I believed in a loving Jesus I would have to assume the unborn victims go straight to paradise for eternity. Now isn't that better than having to struggle for survival and end up going to hell to burn in eternal fire etc.??
June 15 2010 at 5:02 PM Report abuse Permalink +2 rate up rate down ReplyMerle What you posted would be true IF the plight for those of us who live life were true. YES we will struggle in this world, we will hurt and be hurt. In short we will sin numerous times, but the same loving God that repatriates the aborted baby directly to Heaven, is the same God that sent his Son Jesus in the form of man to preach the Gospel of Gods intention for us, be persecuted, ridiculed, and finally crucified on the cross only to fulfill his prophecy and rise from the dead on the third. In doing this he defeated eternal death & separtion from a Just God and attoned for all sins past, present & future for any person that states with their mouth and believes in their heart that Jesus Christ is Lord, God & Savior. That he did indeed die on the cross and rise from the dead. Once this commitment is made the"burn in hell" part is negated by Gods Mercy. Additionally, Life is hard, it is a struggle, but it is also full of beauty, adventure, passion, & happiness. The aborted child never gets the chance to work with these circumtances and mankind never gets to experience the contributions that this child could have offered. The single aborted baby could have been the person who would save anothers life, lead a person to Christ & Salvation, find a cure for a disease, or just live a simple workmans life providing happiness to the many that come in contact. Merle I hope that you really do not consider life to just be a struggle for survival while waiting for eternal damnation, if so might I suggest you read Romans 10: 8-13 & John 3:13-18
June 15 2010 at 5:45 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI think that proves something - you agree & see that abortion is murder without any religious convictions. I've been blogging that this is not about "religion", since everyone agrees the "fetus" is a "living, developing human being" and therefore not religion, just a scientific fact...that it's just common sense, logical to know you are ending a human life. Thanks.
Yes, it's true, we Christians believe that they go directly to heaven. But....it's not our right to end that life --- only God as our Creator does and He has commanded we don't kill them & that should be the end of the debate.
Oh Bonnie, the last paragraph of your story was reprehensible. It is shameful that a "professional" writer would have the audacity to sum up the tragedy or lack of tragedy that Abortion creates in one short paragraph. Furthermore you surely use an example that is far in the minority of reasons why women in this country have abortions. Life is precious and the creation of life is an act that should be accomplished with great thought. The single Mother with four children & preganant with a fifth that you referance would seem to highlight a tragedy in itself that is not addressed in this country because of political correctness. I wonder if you are aware that for many years impoverished women had additional children out of wedlock because there were generous increases to the Government assistance these women received. President Clinton, to his credit, made this act more difficult with the welfare legislation that he signed into law. I think there is minimal creedance to your point when you address abortion in the world view, but what most pro-life activists concentrate their energy on is the mass abortions that are performed in the United States of America. When a singular spotlight is placed on this country it is near impossible in my opinion to draw the conclusion that lack of access to abortion has create far more tragedy than the abortions that have been performed. A fetus is a life in my opinion, regardless of the world that this child will emerge into. As a living being this child has a chance to grow-up from a troubled existance and become a person that changes the world for the better. When you compare this to the summary termination of a life in the womb your arguement really presents as lacking and that is tragic too.
June 15 2010 at 4:21 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyAgree. I had a theraputic abortion, tragic would have been leaving my husband with a 4 month old baby girl to raise because I would have been dead without the procedure. People who've NOT had abortions don't understand all the thought, trying to see if something else could be done. Much soul-searching goes on in the mind of a woman who's about to terminate a pregnancy for the most part. What's also tragic is all the laws making a woman who's going through the decision process have to view videos of the procedure as if she doesn't already know, that's just to appease people who can't understand people who NEED abortions
June 15 2010 at 4:00 PM Report abuse Permalink +4 rate up rate down ReplyTo hrhsheeba,
It was tragic that you had to abort your baby girl for medical reasons. But abortions done for medical reasons, represent a very small number of abortions done in this country. Abortion has become a method of birth control. What is tragic is that a life is taken because our society has become such a "me" society. The "unmarried mother with 4 children" needs to take some responsibily with her body. If she can't refrain from sex, then she should have her tubes tied. How sad this society is that believes human life is disposable.
hrhsheeba, Your abortion for medical needs is tragic in itself. To callously assert that when it came to the life of your fetus, it was apparently an easy decision is rehensible. A MEDICAL abortion to save your life is 10 to 1 supported by most pro-life people. I could ask many question as to why you were at a stage of pregnancy developing problems when you had a four month old, but it's really none of my business; however, a medically neccessary abortion and a woman who has no clue of her resources is a completely different picture altogether. There IS no help, no counseling that you could or should receive as far as prolonging your pregnancy in case of a medical emergency, but allowing the small percent of medical emergencies to compensate for the severe injustice to this country's future is an appalling idea.
Also, in my insurance; an abortion by choice is not covered; termination of a pregnancy in case of medical neccessity is. I pray I'll never need it, but there it is.
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