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Meritocracies are brutal. You should know, since you yourself practiced a kind of meritocracy. As a child, you were bigger than the bug. Splat! Too bad for you, bug. How dare you exist.

In the adult world, however, distinguishing between a true meritocracy and a prejudicial pattern of hiring is not so clear cut. In the last couple of weeks the Internet has been rippling with controversy over "The Daily Show's" lack of women -- "The Daily Show's Woman Problem," by Irin Carmon on jezebel.com, "Outrage World: How Feminist Blogs Like Jezebel Gin Up Page Views by Exploiting Women's Worst Tendencies," by Emily Gould on slate.com. Also "Hiring Inequality Through The Daily Show" by Amanda Hess on washingtoncitypaper.com, which dissects the so-called "fawning" response from the women who work at "The Daily Show."

Hess ends her column with a rule of thumb for sniffing out sexism:
"If you haven't considered the societal forces and ingrained prejudices that may contribute to gender disparities in your hiring practices, your hiring practices are probably sexist. And if you respond to suggestions that your hiring practices may be sexist with a letter signed by all the women on your staff dismissing these claims out of hand, then your hiring practices are almost certainly sexist. That, or men are just better than women."
Better? No. Funnier? Maybe.

As much as I hate conforming (even to the label of non-conformist) I have to disagree with this Greek chorus. I believe the reason we don't see more women on "The Daily Show" is because they're not that funny.

Of course, there are exceptions. Samantha Bee is a treasure, but even she falls flat half the time -- as does everyone on "The Daily Show" (except John Oliver). Why aren't women as funny as men? No one knows. Humor is as fragile and inexplicable as love. It clicks or it doesn't.

Perhaps women's natural gift for empathy is to blame. You can talk "Mean Girls" all you want, but the fact remains that nine out of ten murderers are men.

Comedian Rick Reynolds said in his 1993 stand-up show, "Only the Truth Is Funny," that there are only two types of people in this world, creeps and a*******. You'll know which you are by your response to a cruel, tasteless joke. Did you groan in discomfort? You're a creep. Did you laugh? Then you just might be a comedian in waiting.

To be funny, you've got to go for the jugular, and the truth ain't pretty. Chris Rock's 1996 breakout show, "Bring the Pain," (mature readers, watch a clip here) richly deserves every invective you can throw at it . . . except boring or humorless.

The BBC produced just 12 episodes of "Fawlty Towers" in the 1970s, but it looms so large in the field of comedy you'd think there were hundreds. "Fawlty Towers" featured two women (including co-writer Connie Booth), but they were mostly set-ups for the brilliant John Cleese and his pompous, dyspeptic Mr. Fawlty.


Australia's satiric "The Chaser's War on Everything" is, if anything, even more male dominated than "The Daily Show." Hardly a woman to be seen, and I dare you to watch their take on the best-selling phenomenon known as The Secret without laughing.

Beginning to see a pattern?

That's not to say women are never funny. The legendary Canadian show, SCTV (Second City Television), began broadcasting in 1976, boasting the talents two of the finest comediennes ever born, Catherine O'Hara and Andrea Martin.

The men -- Dave Thomas, Eugene Levy and the late, great John Candy -- are today giants of comedy, but in their SCTV era, the women who performed with them were not just eye candy or foils. A true ensemble, the women and men worked together to produce some of the most memorable comedy in history, often by eviscerating American icons. Even now, as both disco and Perry Como are fading in public memory, SCTV's all-star skit, "Perry Como: Still Alive," is still a classic.

On SCTV, O'Hara and Martin pulled their weight, and then some. Martin's signature character, Edith Prickley (watch a clip here), has entered the public lexicon, with 16,700 hits on Google. Tammy Faye, the dethroned queen of 1980s Christian broadcasting, is no longer with us, but she lives on in O'Hara's ad for industrial-strength mascara.

How I wish I could find a video of Catherine O'Hara as Helen Keller and Andrea Martin as an Anne Sullivan who bears a remarkable resemblance to the wise-cracking, leopard-skin-wearing character Prickley, and teaches O'Hara to look, dress and talk just like her.

And then there's the all but forgotten 1937 film, "The Awful Truth," starring the all but forgotten Irene Dunne.


In this scene Dunne is crashing the party of estranged husband Cary Grant, pretending to be his sister. Throughout the movie, Dunne was all graciousness and sophistication, but here she's putting on an act for a bewildered Cary Grant, in hopes of discouraging his new girlfriend. Rumor has it this scene was mostly ad libbed. Cary Grant may have been the big star, but in this movie it's Irene Dunne pulling the cart.

There are many other examples of screwball comedies in which the women absolutely dominated the men in wit, timing, you name it. Mira Sorvino was little known in 1995, but she won an Academy Award for her performance as a part-time porn star in Woody Allen's "Mighty Aphrodite." Her screen time was short, but she's about all anyone can remember in that film (watch a few highlights here).

And speaking of Sorvino, who was even funnier in the 1997 chick flick, "Romy and Michele's High School Reunion," you can't talk about women of comedy without bringing up Lisa Kudrow. She's known for a lot of things, but sadly not for her magnificent 2005 HBO series, "The Comeback."

The show was created by Kudrow and Michael Patrick King, best known for "Sex and the City" (watch a trailer for "The Comeback" here). "Entertainment Weekly" put it on its end-of-the-decade, "best-of" list, saying, "Starring the superb Lisa Kudrow as a washed-up sitcom actress, this comedy may have lasted only 13 episodes, but it's the most brilliantly brutal satire of reality TV ever captured on screen."

Brilliant. Brutal. Many women are brilliant. Brutal, not so much. While it's true that female comediennes lag behind their male counterparts, I'm chalking that up to their big hearts. I can think of worse traits to have.

As for "The Daily Show" men-versus-women skirmish, perhaps it's time to move on. Women are still getting sentences of death by stoning in some parts of the world. Check out the Violence Against Women Facts page on Amnesty International. Jon Stewart and "The Daily Show" are the least of our problems.
Filed Under: Humor, Woman Up, Culture, Internet

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mrymrf

Do any of these male comic writers know as much about horticulture as Dorothy Parker?

July 14 2010 at 10:09 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
pttypinkley

Yeah, but what about women like Betty White! She rocks! NO?

July 12 2010 at 1:13 PM Report abuse +2 rate up rate down Reply
nowafewthoughts

1. Comedy is about making fun of people in power.

2. Men still hold more positions of power in public life in the western world. (Women are maybe 10-15%?)

3. When women acquire more power, more comediennes will get the job making fun of them.

Some women have held power as mothers, based on at least the initial physical bond of the baby growing inside the mother's body, but this does not get made fun of as much for some reason (of course the father often ranks higher than the mother so she doesn't really have the root power); I think mother "power" should be made fun of more.

July 11 2010 at 8:51 PM Report abuse +2 rate up rate down Reply
Anita

Let me rephrase this so as to make it more acceptable to the censor: Why is the adjective "lame" seen as an all purpose put down? There are people who limp and lurch and wobble and wheel their way through life who don't enjoy who don't enjoy this. Men and women.

July 11 2010 at 8:28 PM Report abuse +3 rate up rate down Reply
munky999x

I don't know about making such far sweeping generalities as "men are funnier than women", because you can't prove that objectively. Ever.

But I would suggest that a show as liberal as The Daily Show probably wouldn't have a "no women" mentality. I imagine it just has more to do with the caliber of men applicants vs women applicants.

Think of the funniest male comedians that have come through there (Stephen Colbert, Steve Carrell, Rob Riggle, Lewis Black) and compare them to the best female comedian that has been on the show (Samantha Bee). The best women correspondents so far haven't been on the same level as the best male correspondents.

July 11 2010 at 7:03 PM Report abuse +2 rate up rate down Reply
jrd000000001

want more women on there? i say get lisa lampinelli.... perfect for the daily show...

July 11 2010 at 6:35 PM Report abuse -1 rate up rate down Reply
dianee271

You know what I would *love*?? I would love for Joan Rivers to read this column and post her comments!
Personally, I loved Gracie Allen. There's never been anyone since her who did that kind of screwball verbal humor.

July 11 2010 at 3:38 PM Report abuse +4 rate up rate down Reply
rokdoc3

The truth is most humor is barely-concealed or differently-channeled anger, with a target. Women traditionally have been far more nurturing, and honestly I don't think most people find an angry woman to be that funny (see Wanda Sykes, Jeanine Garofalo). There is of course situational humor which women are superbly capable of, like Lucy, Carol Burnett, etc. And observational humor a la Ellen DeGeneres. But that cutting, sarcastic, bitter attacking humor just doesn't seem to play as well coming from a women. People are more used to men being aggressive and jerky so it's more of a natural extension. One guy's opinion

July 11 2010 at 1:06 PM Report abuse +4 rate up rate down Reply
jn61385

My first reaction is to recoil from this idea, but it does seem that our collective humor trends toward poking fun at another person to entertain. This does not take much creativity. But men domseem to be better at this, perhaps because of reduced empathy- nothing to be proud of. In fact humiliating others to please the audience is on the continuum of hurting and perhaps killing others. so what does this say about the direction our culture is taking. I do not enjoy listening to others targeting fellow humans just to make a living.

July 11 2010 at 9:56 AM Report abuse +6 rate up rate down Reply
rlmiller12

two words....Gilda Radner

July 10 2010 at 11:59 PM Report abuse +10 rate up rate down Reply

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