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I think there are some shows . . . I wouldn't put him on 'Jerry Springer' either, right? . . . It is different, a little bit. But look, I think the president of the United States has to go on serious shows. And 'The View' is -- you can make a case that 'The View' is a serious show -- but also rocks and rolls a little bit. I'm not sure he has to go on 'The View' to be open to questions.
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