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Pentagon's 'Don't Ask' Survey: Soldiers in Afghanistan Are Just Not That Interested

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David Wood
Chief Military Correspondent
Combat troops in Afghanistan had less opportunity than those at home to weigh in on the potential repeal of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell'' law on gays and lesbians in the military, Defense Department officials acknowledged.

The Pentagon, under pressure to repeal the law from President Barack Obama, Congress and its own top leadership, this summer launched what spokesman Geoff Morrell described as a "scientifically supported'' effort to survey "a large representative sample of our force'' to determine how they felt about allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly.

That outreach included e-mailing detailed questionnaires to 400,000 service members, holding dozens of closed-door forums with troops, and opening anonymous online comment and chat-room sites. The e-mail surveys contained 103 questions about each recipient's job satisfaction, unit morale and how unit cohesion and combat readiness would be affected if gays and lesbians were allowed to serve openly.

The surveys, which were designed and distributed by a private contractor, are being forwarded, together with recorded and collated information from the chat rooms and forums, to a military task force headed by Army Gen. Carter F. Ham and Jeh Johnson, the Pentagon's general counsel. The task force's findings will be critical in determining how the Defense Department will respond if Congress repeals the law barring open gays and lesbians from military service, as well as its 1993 interpretation, "Don't ask, don't tell.''

Ham said last month that people who received the surveys were demographically selected on the basis of age, rank, service, military specialty, marital status and other data to ensure the responses came from a broad cross-section of the force. Half the surveys were sent to active-duty troops, and half to members of the National Guard and reserves.

I've just returned from a month in the combat zone, where I was embedded with soldiers from three different battalions in northern, central and southern Afghanistan.

In conversations with hundreds of soldiers, I met one -- only one -- who had received the e-mail questionnaire. "Oh, yeah, I think I got it a few weeks ago -- haven't really looked at it,'' this young lieutenant said.

Given the heated passion this issue has aroused on both sides, I was a little surprised at his ambivalence. On second thought, though, I realized that it made sense: in a war zone, the range of things you care about is narrow: risk, food, comfort. On the few bases with dining-hall TV service, I've watched a Fox News broadcast playing on a big-screen TV with a crowd of soldiers eating and joking and paying no attention to the news.

That tracks generally with the Pentagon's final tally of returned e-mail questionnaires. Of the 400,000 surveys mailed out, only 109,883 were returned by the Aug. 15 deadline -- just over 1 in 4.

David Segal, a military sociologist at the University of Maryland and director of the Center for Research on Military Organization, said that rate of return is pretty good considering that people in military service tend to be focused on the job at hand -- especially in a war zone.

"It's also the case that they simply don't see 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' as an issue,'' Segal said.

Still, none of the approximately 100,000 soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines serving in Afghanistan was invited to express his or her opinion in the 77 closed-door town hall meetings held by Pentagon officials this summer. Those were reserved only for "garrison'' troops, those who are not deployed in the war zone. In these sessions, held at military posts across the country and in Europe, 20,325 people voiced their ideas and opinions.

The Pentagon felt that holding these meetings in the war zone "would be a distraction'' from combat, said Pentagon spokeswoman Cynthia Smith. The Pentagon does not know how many e-mail surveys were returned from military personnel serving in Afghanistan or Iraq, she said.

In my own conversations with soldiers, most looked baffled when I asked if they'd had a chance to let Pentagon leaders know how things would change for them if openly gay or lesbian service members were allowed to serve.

"It wouldn't be a big deal,'' shrugged one infantryman to whom I promised anonymity. He said he knew several gays in high school and had served in the Army alongside a gay soldier, and not given it much thought.

Another soldier, a cavalry scout, said he was concerned that allowing openly gay soldiers to serve in a combat unit would expose them to danger. "I'd be afraid they'd get beat up in the shower,'' he said. But he added: "Maybe that's just me. I grew up in a place where we didn't know any gays. Personally, I'd be OK with it.''

Defense Department spokesman Morrell said last month that the Pentagon has made every effort to capture opinions like these.

"We're not playing games here, guys,'' he said at a Pentagon briefing for reporters. "We're trying to figure out what the attitudes of our force are, what the potential problems are with repeal, what the potential opportunities there may be available to us as the result of appeal. But we won't [get] any of that conclusively, scientifically, unless we get this survey done, unless there is full and active participation from those who it's been sent to, and unless there is not outside influence on their answers.''

The low participation of troops in Afghanistan, though, was seen by pro-repeal activists as evidence that the question is largely settled.

"It's not a question of whether people had a chance to weigh in or not. It's just not a priority. People are ready to change this policy, and the low response rate shows that,'' said J.D. smith, co-director of Outserve.org, an underground network of gay and lesbian active-duty service members.

But Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness and an outspoken activist for banning gays and lesbians from military service, said the low interest in the Pentagon's surveys and town forums was because "they never asked the question that really matters: Do you support retention or repeal of the law?''

The Pentagon "deliberately excluded that question,'' she said, "and the message has gone out that the Department of Defense has taken sides, and they don't even care about the opinions of active-duty members who support the current law.''

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I'm sorry, but neither soldiers nor the military in general have any right to make policy or to make political decisions. That would be allowed in a military dictatorship. The military is and shall always be under the authority of the civilian government. If upwards of 70% of the civilian population supports the repeal of DADT, then just make it so. Stop stalling and stop making excuses for institutionalized discrimination. The rest of the civilized worl has no problem with gays in the military. Let's just get on with it. We say that we fight for freedom, liberty and democracy. Let's also show it with our actions.

August 25 2010 at 11:27 PM Report abuse -1 rate up rate down Reply
Rogell

We're making far to much out of this issue. I say we repeal the existing law and move on. If I were on active duty again and was in an untenable situation and depending on someone who was gay, that person's agenda would be the last thing that would pop up in my mind. My interest in that person next to me would be something along the line of, "I certainly hope he or she can shoot straight," or "I hope he or she doesn't miss." I believe Admiral McMullen, Chairman, Joint Chief's put it best several months ago, in suggesting the repeal of don't ask, don't tell.

August 25 2010 at 11:31 AM Report abuse -2 rate up rate down Reply
jeriestes

How sad to ask someone to lie about who they are. Let's give credit where credit is due! Gays are welling to fight and die for their country. How many supporters of Don't Ask, Don't Tell'' are welling to go to Iraq and Afghanistan? The hell gays have to go though in every day society should make them great soldiers. The Capital in part was not attacked on 9/11 because a gay young man lead the charge "Let's roll" !!! God bless him and his brave fellow passengers who died fighting back!

August 25 2010 at 12:42 AM Report abuse -7 rate up rate down Reply
JOHN

The basic problem is in the President having power over the military, including the ability to fire Generals who won't go along with what he wants. There is no "democracy" in the ranks of officers because they have to respond in a manner that protects their jobs instead of how they really feel. The same holds true with the FBI, the CIA and other federal law enforcement agencies. Everybody is afraid to do what is right instead of what Obama wants done.

August 24 2010 at 11:51 PM Report abuse +7 rate up rate down Reply
nowestmo

Ms.Donnelly consistently comes off as having a huge case of sour grapes. The Liberals and the Military-who are heroes unless the right disagrees with them- are in cahoots, denying the true patriots who hate teh ghey the proper opportunity to voice their disapproval of the sinning Islamofascist Socialist Commies who've stolen the country and all their sinful ways, when the fact of the matter is most of the country, military and civilian, just don't care what their fellow citizens' sexual preferences are. Plenty of opportunity has been given for everybody to voice their opinion, pro or con, on this subject.The right continues to rail, and lie, because they know they're becoming increasingly isolated on the issue of gay rights.

August 24 2010 at 11:30 PM Report abuse -8 rate up rate down Reply
jancf

What an almighty fuss; just end dadt and let them all serve. We will be lucky to have them. I feel sorry for those whose ignorance and/or smallmindedness causes them to embrace stupidity. There will be no difference in our fighting ability, and a big benefit if we can get back some of those linguists.

August 24 2010 at 11:22 PM Report abuse -5 rate up rate down Reply
snosnake18

The day you let men and woman shower together then I wont mind showering with a gay guy fair is fair and thats what this is about being fair.why do people think its ok for gay people who like the same sex to live in close personal quarters with that sex ,but not straight people to live with members of the sex they like

August 24 2010 at 11:09 PM Report abuse +3 rate up rate down Reply
ccaron8959

I wish to express concern about the DoD trying to get feed back from members of the military about this issue. Would we want someone willing to serve their country to be subjected to this idiotic survey. Who cam we can ourselves a nation of tolorence when we can't get over this stupid issue . It has no wartime relevance and I am pretty sure that most of the guys in Iraq and Afganistan would welcome to be save from death by anyone they serve with.This issue is an attack on the constitution of our great nation. We are a nation of liberties enforced by that document and the proceeding bill of rights. If someone did not hire a gay person because they were gay then that would be a illegal hiring process and all the equal opportunity rights that our goverment is more than happy to enforce. But why is our armed forces exempt from this law? Who are the joint chiefs and the generals of our armed forces to tell gay people they cannot serve. Are you kidding I think they should be welcomed with open arms no less.I chose not to serve myself.But I would be hard pressed to find any fault in people who fight for my right as a human being and all other person of humanity. I mean there are extremist don't get me wrong I am not looking through rosecolored glasses but at our current military status people willing to serve and able to defened this great nation should be allowed to regerdless of their sexual orientation . this is a choose they have made and to still want to serve after this law get repealed or not should be allowed this great country was built by all who came before us I think we should try to hold it together for our children and all children of the nation to follow. Thank you to all who serve you should fell pride in what you do and keep up the great work you soldiers do. The Nation owes you all. And I hope with a;ll my heart someday we pay you the honor and respect that our veterns absolutely deserve.

August 24 2010 at 9:51 PM Report abuse -5 rate up rate down Reply
calhounrules

I dont care if gays want to join the military. However if they do Im sure we will be forced to listen to some gay sensitivity class.

August 24 2010 at 9:26 PM Report abuse -9 rate up rate down Reply
jbahllywd2

Young people are often exposed to and more tolerant of what older generations are unable to wrap their minds around or even comprehend that "change is healthy for the spirit."

August 24 2010 at 8:52 PM Report abuse -7 rate up rate down Reply

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