Birther Defense Not Working for Army Doc Who Refused Afghan Duty

An interesting side note is that Kagan represented Obama on his citizenship lawsuits prior to her become a Supreme Court Justice? Kind of ironic, isn't it?

@Philip One thing money can't buy you is a "way back" time machine so that you can post a birth announcement in the Hawaiian newpaper the day you were born.

chief251a2:08 PM Sep 4, 2010 (0) vote this comment up (0) vote this comment down To become President, you MUST be born on American soil. I am American by birth but I am not eligible to become President because I was born in Germany. My parents were both native born American citizens living overseas in the service of the United States and my citizenship is derived from them, but I am not legally considered to be "native born". John McCain was born in the Canal Zone, which was legally US soil at the time. He is without doubt "native born". Obama, IF born in the state of Hawaii, is native born under the law. If born in Indonesia (or Kenya), he is American by "dint" of his American mother but not - NOT - native born under the laws governing who may become President. I personally have no opinion either way - with enough money, you could "prove" that George Washington was a Martian! And - both major political machines have that much money and both are sufficiently corrupt to try. But exactly where Obama was born DOES MATTER! And I do believe that his birthplace should be determined beyond a shadow of a doubt.'''''''''''''''' WRONG, first McCain was born outside the Zone. 2nd you could run. it states ((Natural Born)) meaning naturalized like Arnold can Not run...but to be Natural born only require s 1 Parent be citizen at time of Birth. so even though McCain was foreign born he can run

Considering all the challanges to Obama's birth and qualification to hold office by much higher courts than this, I think that would be presedent enough and considered a fact. When a presedent is set by a court decision, subsequent cases that cite that presedent don't require all the evedence that was considered in making the initial decision. This is no different. Believe me, President Obama is not my President of choice, but as a US citizen and a military retiree, just like all others, he is my President and will remain so until replaced. If you don't like it, get over it and work on getting your canadate of choice in office in 2012.

Wow. I posted a quote of Hawaiian law which describes the difference between a Certification of Live Birth, and its Certificate of Live Birth. Apparently, that isn't allowed here, because it hasn't shown up, though others' posts subsequent to mine have.

That's just silly.Civil courts have penalties for frivilous cases. I hope this court does as well.

Boy, the "hate-mongers" are really digging hard to try to discredit the Prez. Why not look at the big picture: He is a man. The Congress consists of men and women. All together they are a big part of our government. Most of it. But one person alone cannot do or cause all the ills attributed to this one man by so many, led, I gather, by FOX. Think, people. One man.

Since when does the Chain-of-Command EVER stop at the Pentagon? The Pentagon is the organizational head of the Military, but the people who run the Pentagon take their orders from our duly elected “civilian” President. The Pentagon has no authority to act without this civilian leadership. If Judge Lind continues to stonewall and push the Court into believing the Pentagon, not the President has the final Chain-of-Command authority to issue orders then Judge Lind herself should have no authority to prosecute.

Here's the thing...I'm pretty sure when you run for president that your qualifications are checked pretty thoroughly, like any high level government office. I really don't think he would have ever been allowed to run if he could not prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he met the constitutional requirements. Besides, he's shown his birth certificate, end of story. Also, I could be wrong, but I think his mom was a citizen when he was born. That being the case, it doesn't matter where he was born, he was born a citizen through her. If people have a problem with his policies, then they should attack those. This inane argument about his status just takes focus off of the real issues.

He should have his medical license revoked permanently, period.