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There's more to the story, of course. Durbin has called for more oversight of for-profit colleges such as the one Mahan attends. The hearing was intended to look at complaints that such colleges entice students to take on massive debt while failing to deliver on their promise of jobs that pay enough for graduates to pay back what they owe.Umm, yea, state colleges' students NEVER find themselves in debt after attending college paying out of control tuition, huh? Just another wink and a nod to public unions.
September 07 2010 at 9:05 PM Report abuse Permalink +6 rate up rate down Replysooner or later the for profits like the university of phoenix are going to be exposed for what they are scams. the classes are offered on line, you don't know who is doing the work and taking the tests. these degrees don't mean anything. this is going to blow sooner or later. they let everybody in and they don't who is actually doing the work.
September 07 2010 at 8:06 PM Report abuse Permalink -2 rate up rate down ReplyI'm a court reporter (stenographer) in California. Twenty years ago, I was looking for a court reporting school to attend. The only ones listed in the phonebook were the for-profit schools. I called them all, and they were all around $10,000 to $12,000 for the program, which I couldn't afford. Then I ran into someone who told me about a California junior college 30 miles away. It cost me around $100 a semester, plus books and materials, way, way cheaper than the for-profits. The program and teachers were excellant, and I completed the course and passed the state exam the first time I took it, which only 20 percent of first-time candidates pass. The teachers in the program are motivated by the requirement by the State that 80 percent of their students pass the sate exam the first time, or they lose funding for their program. The programs in the article above are all given at JC's. And units earned at JC's are transferable to four-year schools.
September 07 2010 at 6:41 PM Report abuse Permalink +4 rate up rate down ReplyIf the college is accredited by the same accrediting agencies that rate the universities with national sports programs and has credit that is transferable to those colleges, then this guy is right to be defensive. However, if you can't transfer transcripts credit your college is not up to snuff (like it or don't). Diploma mills take your money and you get a piece of paper to show for it. What fortune 500 company would hire someone with this kind of degree when there are national accredited institution graduates available for the same job?
September 07 2010 at 5:51 PM Report abuse Permalink -1 rate up rate down ReplyI was looking at the graduation rate for some non-profit colleges, i.e. state or government colleges. The rates were really appalling there as well and costs were not cheap. The site was pointing out the even the cirriculum at college level has gone down hill and does not prepare students. Students are studying less per week as well. Maybe they should look at all colleges rather then just the for profits. Higher education should not be allowed to go downhill.
September 07 2010 at 5:08 PM Report abuse Permalink +9 rate up rate down ReplyThis is supposed to be a two party system. The Republican have somehow figured a way to have a one party system. The republicans are a block to getting over this horific depression. They are the Party of "NO", My home is a policy of "NO Vote" for any Republicans!!!!
September 07 2010 at 4:26 PM Report abuse Permalink -18 rate up rate down ReplyDear Alan - no, it is not supposed to be a 2 party system. It's a representative democracy allowing any party affiliation, or not, a candidate chooses. As for your allegation against the Republicans, I will argue that it is their absolute duty and responsibility to block all bad legislation with the specific intent to get us out of these horrific economic times. The liberals have done more than enough damage already and must be stopped from further deepening the damage. Also, unless you are totally new to politics, I'd also point out the hypocrisy (or at least the sheer naiveté) of your rant as not long ago the opposite side of the isle were far more aggressive in their blocking of just about every attempt at a judicial nomincation and implementation of good (IMHO) economic policies (including those warnings of the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac debacle) during the Bush 8.
September 07 2010 at 6:27 PM Report abuse Permalink +8 rate up rate down ReplyAlan, with a Democratic House, a Democratic Senate, and a Democrat as President, how can you say it is a one-party Republican system? And luvnxs, our country is not a representative democracy, it is a republic; think about it when next you give the pledge to our Flag.
September 07 2010 at 9:58 PM Report abuse Permalink -1 rate up rate down ReplyDems are imploding on themselves and much of it is arrogance.
September 07 2010 at 3:47 PM Report abuse Permalink +17 rate up rate down ReplySadly, I think that there are school operators that game the student loan program to attract students that may be qualified for loans and pell grants but who are poor candidates to complete the classes and get employed in the field. As a former workforce center director I saw too many students who were unable to keep up or unable to find training related jobs unpon completion of training. These schools were unable to provide adequate placement assistance or in the worst cases did not care about placing their graduates. Unfortunately some of the workforce boards have too many of these "educators" connected to the system and they are able to suck too much of the limited resources out of the limited dollars available for job training funded through local workforce programs, either through poor placement records or extremely high costs or both.
September 07 2010 at 3:44 PM Report abuse Permalink +4 rate up rate down Replyi thougt that everybody had to repay the student loans.....please tell me how to get out of paying mine back...
September 07 2010 at 2:52 PM Report abuse Permalink +12 rate up rate down ReplyDid you apply for deferrment or forbearance? If it was a for-profit school you might be able to make a legal case out of it if you felt you were deceived or pressured into enrollment and have the loan squashed. But if it was just a standard community college or university, you don't have much of a case. Apply for economic hardship or deferrment and it gets you off the hook for 6 months. If you are still having financial issues at the end of that term you can reapply. I am not sure if interest is accrued, but a Federal Stafford loan, if that's what your loan is, is pretty low interest. Apply for deferrment or forbearance until you can pay it back. I know you need a degree (and some luck) to get a decent job these days, but it is kind of irresponsible to attend an institution and receive an education on someone else's dime and not pay it back.
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