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In dismissing the case, the court handed a major victory to the Obama administration, which has -- via the Department of Justice -- maintained a broad use of the so-called "state secrets" privilege throughout Mohamed's trial (in April of last year, a Ninth Circuit court ruled that the case could proceed, but the administration appealed this decision). It is the administration's position that the court hearing of a former detainee -- even one relying solely on public information -- would pose too much of a risk to national security. This, despite a high profile Department of Justice policy announced last fall that said the administration would limit the use of the very same state secrets privilege in an effort to "strengthen public confidence," presumably in response to Bush-era secrecy. Tt is really quite simple - In this case which do you prefer Justice or Security? Every administration/government since the beginning of this country and all of those prior and elsewhere have really but one real job - "to protect it's very own existance" so basically Justice has no meaning or value if you do not exist. Justice is a relative term and should never be used to jepordize ones own existance.
September 16 2010 at 9:52 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThank you Pat Craven for a well reasoned response.
September 12 2010 at 9:03 PM Report abuse Permalink -2 rate up rate down ReplyDo you really think the right-leaning court will allow the release of Bush-era secrets? Get real! It will never happen.
September 12 2010 at 1:44 PM Report abuse Permalink -12 rate up rate down ReplyLiberals who condemmed GWB for his interrogations,etc were not being realistic about what is really happening in the world. Not that BHO's administration has had to resort to the same tactics maybe these people will finally have the wool pulled from over their eyes. Time to wake up and grow up.
September 12 2010 at 12:48 PM Report abuse Permalink +22 rate up rate down Replythis is wrong. our prisons are full of people who would love to have been able to plead top secret/national security. this is not what america is about at all. this sickens me.
September 12 2010 at 12:24 PM Report abuse Permalink -20 rate up rate down ReplyThis a weak and poor written article,,,need to do a little more research about past history before claims being made about. Journalism is again no wher to be found. We should come to expect this type of commentary on the internet!!
September 12 2010 at 12:18 PM Report abuse Permalink +22 rate up rate down ReplyWhere did you read it?
September 12 2010 at 1:21 PM Report abuse Permalink -5 rate up rate down ReplyI've always been a peace-loving pacifist liberal. Sorry, but that crap changed slightly when planes started falling from the sky and no one, not even my grandmother, is immune from scrutiny in this day and age as it relates to national security. And Mr. Obama? I voted for change back in 2008. Nothing happened. Now I've changed my mind.
September 12 2010 at 11:56 AM Report abuse Permalink +30 rate up rate down ReplyRemember , these allegations of torture are alledged allegations to begin with. This article reads as if its a proven fact evidentely in an attampt to attack the previous administration.
September 12 2010 at 11:51 AM Report abuse Permalink +24 rate up rate down ReplyIt appears that there are liberal entities that would provide the rights of a US Citizen to all. This will allow others to gain benefit w/o providing taxes. If you gave to all strangers the right, instead of privilege, to come into your house and eat your food, soon it would all be gone, and your family goes hungry. By providing foriegn nationals rights in our legal system, we open the door to file civil suits. The check and balance against government doing wrong is an educated electorate, that is the watchdog of the government. Not the courts handing out civil awards to people or entities who do not contribute to this country but instead seek to tear it down. Go see if as a US National if you can file a civil suit & recieve an award in any of the countries that are allowing religous fanatacism that advocates the destuction of our way of life, that provides those self same rights they are seeking to use.
September 12 2010 at 11:45 AM Report abuse Permalink +16 rate up rate down ReplyYou're mixing apples and oranges. In this country we have certain rights and freedoms. If those other countries that you mention don't provide the same rights, that doesn't make it any more right for us to deny rights to others, especially when we've evidently mistreated them. If we abuse foreigners by throwing them into prison (read Guantanamo) without charge and then release them after SEVEN years without so much as an apology, then they SHOULD have the right to sue the government in court, I think. We took seven years of one guy's life and undoubtedly several years of other people's lives. Don't you think they're entitled to some kind of restitution? Why would we release them if they were advocating "the destruction of our way of life"? Why would we not charge them with some crime against the government and the people of the United States and try them in court? Maybe because we had no evidence and had haphazardly pulled people off the streets in foreign countries to generate the rationale for invading Iraq.
September 12 2010 at 1:24 PM Report abuse Permalink -10 rate up rate down ReplyI recommend that you sit down and actually read the constitution. Most of the "rights" we talk about are in the Amendments, especially the first ten. First of all, these "rights" are not privileges bestowed on the people, they are restrictions of what the government is allowed to do. Second, you will, if you actually read them, notice that when they refer to people they do not use the word "citizen." The constitution in all cases that I can think of refers to "all persons." I know the Supreme Court has ruled that in many cases non-citizens cannot call on our courts for protection or that the constitution does now apply in some cases outside the physical limits of the United States, but in general the restrictions on government apply to "all persons."
September 12 2010 at 11:33 PM Report abuse Permalink -1 rate up rate down ReplyWe need to know more about why this person was picked up by the CIA to begin with - I doubt it was a mistake - it's unfortunate he was tortured - but American lives were at stake - and those are more important than the muslim terrorist/mistaken terrorist anyway...
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