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The case of the Rutgers University students facing charges after the suicide of a fellow student is as sickening as they come.

According to published reports, one of the students, Dharun Ravi, 18, is suspected of streaming his roommate's private sexual encounter live on the Internet. Another classmate, Molly Wei, 18, has also been charged in the case.

Authorities say Ravi tweeted a message:

"Roommate asked for the room till midnight. I went into molly's room and turned on my webcam. I saw him making out with a dude. Yay."

Ravi tried a similar live feed on the Internet a couple of days later, prosecutors say.

"Anyone with iChat," another message said, "I dare you to video chat me between the hours of 9:30 and 12. Yes, it's happening again."

The next day the roommate, Tyler Clementi, an 18-year-old Rutgers freshman known as a shy, accomplished violinist, jumped off the George Washington Bridge into the Hudson River.

Comments on the story from New York Times readers have come in the hundreds, many of them raging against evilness and homophobia. Gay rights group said they considered Clementi's death a hate crime.

But this case also raises a provocative question given all the news lately about how today's young people are taking forever to grow up: Should we hold these two young suspects accountable as adults?

One commenter on the New York Times website, a teacher, wrote in response to the Rutgers tragedy:

"My students, today, spend half the day texting their parents and the other half immersed in a world inhabited only by their peers...The stage of life we once called adolescence no longer exists. People in their "teens" used to act out and rebel and learn from their mistakes, but now their parents -- with the help of technology--infantilize them until their late 20s."

The teacher added: "Furthermore, "teens" used to have some exposure to those outside their peer group, but -- with the help of technology -- they no longer have that exposure to the same degree and they, thus, encounter very few moments in which they are challenged by elders or anyone different from them. In other words, they don't have to grow up. Childhood now lasts until the late 20s."

So if parents infantilize while technology shelters, where does that leave the kids? If Ravi and Wei were really children, how would we rationalize what they are accused of doing? Would we see it as a prank gone terribly wrong? Would we deem the suspects incapable of thinking of the consequences? Would we see them as vicious and evil?

While we ponder, the two each face charges of invasion of privacy punishable by up to 5 years.
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KATHY'S FREE

Yes, the two are old enough to fight in a War, able to get a driver's license,sign a lease or contract, that they're held responsible for, then they should be charged as adults, they're out of high school and are fully aware of their actions, you would think, they know right from wrong? Wonder if Ravi felt rejected as he may have made a pass at Tyler, and this was an act of revenge? Too bad no one took and aired pictures of Ravi and Wei having sexual relations, as they've been boyfriend/girlfriend since high school. Wonder what they would do and how would they feel if this happened to them? They are responsible for their actions as adults and for the death of Tyler Clementi and must be charged to the fullest extent of the law, and Rutger's does need to immediately expell these perps and give restitution to the family of Tyler Clementi for his tuition, books, rooming, etc., not to say for his death too, as his rights on their campus were violated and this led to his demise, they failed to protect a young man that was reaching out for assistance in this matter!

October 03 2010 at 3:16 PM Report abuse +1 rate up rate down Reply
cipherguise

What about doing things for which you are not ashamed?

October 01 2010 at 11:39 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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misspattysue

A man could be made to feel shame for hiding Jews in Nazi Germany. Shame is not a measure of right and wrong.

October 01 2010 at 6:49 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jay

Regardless of Clementi's suicide, the egregious actions of Ravi and Wei must have some consequence. Presumably they had no reason to predict their "prank" would lead to Clementi killing himself. However, just the betrayal of Clementi's trust and surreptitiously broadcasting and recording him shows the type of people they are. Any punishment meted out by the court won't be much compared to the guilt that they will always carry. Actions have consequences.

October 01 2010 at 9:58 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Scarlett

These two are directly responsible for the young man's death. They ruined his life, laughing all the way. What arrogance to film someone without their knowledge, first of all, and then to have the utter (gutter) nerve to broadcast it for "fun". They deserve far more than 5 years.

September 30 2010 at 9:42 PM Report abuse +3 rate up rate down Reply
lilazn_boi

People are too quick to judgement. You have to look at this incident through Molly and Dharun's side. What seemed like a prank at first, turned fatal and within days the whole nation has voiced their clear disdain to what they did. Their lives have been ruined now no matter what the outcome of the case is. They will be expelled from the University and will have a hard time transferring schools due to the fact that they are now infamous. They must also carry the guilt that they indirectly caused the death of another person. I can't imagine the pain all parties in this incident are going through.

September 30 2010 at 7:44 PM Report abuse -3 rate up rate down Reply
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Mr. Rickman

They knew what they were doing was wrong. They did it anyway.

September 30 2010 at 9:06 PM Report abuse +2 rate up rate down Reply
jocelynfanger

All three students exhibited an astonishing degree of immaturity--Ravi for the set-up, Wei for helping him, and Clementi for taking the jump. The outcome was tragic, no doubt about it, but the question of blame is more complicated than it might first appear. All three students were above legal age. If you treat them all as adults responsible for their own actions, then (1) Ravi and Wei must answer in some way for their behavior, and (2)Clementi must be held responsible for his own decision to jump; in other words, everyone is to blame. If you treat them all as immature children, then no one is to blame: (1) Ravi perhaps wanted to prank his roommate, (2) Wei either went along or didn't understand, and (3) Clementi overreacted. . . .My own take on this is that all of them were grossly immature and in a new college environment with technology they couldn't handle. Ravi couldn't handle his roommate's gayness, so he used technology in a way he should not have. Clementi had an expectation of privacy that he should not have had: (1) An open laptop with a camera should have been noticed and recognized; (2) he had a roommate, who had a key and could have come in at any time; and (3) this was a college dorm, where resident-hall assistants (RAs) and the dorm director have keys and could have come in at any time. . . .Mia's article is spot on in recognizing the participants' immaturity in this tragedy.

September 30 2010 at 6:58 PM Report abuse -2 rate up rate down Reply
debij

The pair should be treated as murderers which is what they are. Perhaps not first degree murder, but maybe 2nd degree murder. Their actions directly caused the death of that guy. They and the world need to be taught that cyber bullying and otherwise using technology to harass people is WRONG. It doesn't matter that the guy was making out with another guy or if he was making out with a girl, he had reasonable right to expect privacy. Until he discovered the web cams, he thought he had. Additionally, they should be charged with hate crimes since it dealt with a protected group - homosexuality. The girl should be charged as an equal unless the investigation finds that she had nothing to do with the idea or actual setup of the bugged room. They ended this guy's life - at the very minimum, their lives should be ruined - no good job, no good education, no freedom. Put them both in jail and keep them there.

September 30 2010 at 5:00 PM Report abuse +8 rate up rate down Reply
tara*

This is what has become of our world, where hatred and venom seems to be embraced by so many. These two "friends" set up this kid and victimized him in the worst way imaginable in order to out him as "sick" but the only sickness they unveiled was their own. I realize there is no precedent to hold bullies accountable for subsequent suicides, but perhaps this is the case that could set such a precedent. If any deserves to be, this one certainly could qualify. It's time legal safeguards are put in place to prevent such actions because it's becoming quite obvious that basic human decency or even commonsense isn't enough to dictate decent human behavior. I hope these people are held fully accountable. I doubt they will be, but still I hope that they will.

September 30 2010 at 4:09 PM Report abuse +12 rate up rate down Reply

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