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The reaction against Léonard's comments has been swift and sharp. Q: What do you think about AIDS? Do you consider the disease as a 'punishment from God for the sexual revolution?
A: "Someone once asked John Paul II if AIDS was a punishment from God," Léonard says. "He then wisely answered that it is very difficult to know God's intentions. I myself don't reason in those terms at all. So I do not see this epidemic as a punishment, but at the most as a sort of immanent justice, sort of like how, in ecology, we are faced with the consequences of what we are doing to the environment. Maybe human love also responds when she is treated badly, without the need of a transcendent source. Maybe it is a sort of immanent justice, but as far as the concrete causes are concerned, doctors should some day be able to say how this disease came to be, how it was initially transmitted and then spread further...But considered more generally, I stick to something in the order of a sort of immanent justice. Badly handling physical nature causes it to treat us badly in turn and badly dealing with the deeper nature of human love will ultimately always lead to catastrophes on all levels."
Since when has the Catholic Church been a beacon of Morality? I was brought up a Catholic, but had enough sense to stop taking the Church seriously when I was around 12.
October 24 2010 at 8:07 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIf HIV/Aids is "justice for promiscuous sex" then why are so many innocent people suffering--ie Hemophiliacs, blood transfusion recipients, etc... How is that just?
October 23 2010 at 8:36 AM Report abuse Permalink -1 rate up rate down ReplyYou have misunderstood the Archbishop's message.
October 23 2010 at 9:33 AM Report abuse Permalink +1 rate up rate down Reply~ We've all heard that AIDs has been spread by gay men - - so, is this persons statement really that far off ? ~ I know that guy men could find this story offensive but the TRUTH is what we should be after here (the truth is sometimes very painful) - rather than the total consideration and political correctness of a gay groups hurt feelings. . .
October 22 2010 at 9:23 AM Report abuse Permalink -1 rate up rate down ReplyAIDS is spread predominantly through promiscuous, unsafe sex and IV drug use. It is not spread by "gay men" any more than syphyllis is spread by "straight men." You should check the integrity of your words if you want to claim to speak for "the truth." Sadly typical of the judgmental type who believe they speak for God.
November 28 2010 at 1:28 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI think there is nothing wrong his comments, in the context of a question dealing with Divine Punishment. He clearly states that science will eventually find the original cause of the disease. That it is spread often times as a natural consequence of unhealthy behavior is undeniable (that is why AIDS prevention models focus on "Safe Sex"). That it is also spread to people not engaged in unhealthy behavior does not change that fact. There are always innocent victims harmed by the unhealthy behavior of others, whether it be an innocent killed by a drunk driver; innocent children killed in a drive by shooting; or drug addicted babies born of drug addicted mothers.
October 21 2010 at 11:27 AM Report abuse Permalink -1 rate up rate down ReplyNothing in what I read appeared hateful at all. He said human love responds when she is treated badly. What a perfect example of how one person's actions can affect so many's lives, whether it be an innocent partner, an infant or whatever. Or how with our lack of love/compassion for others and their well-being, so many new cases are reported each day. I saw nothing about him blaming homosexuals in his answer. I think it's all about perception!
October 21 2010 at 10:36 AM Report abuse Permalink +2 rate up rate down ReplySo, one partner cheats on the other who remains faithful. The cheater gets HIV and infects his faithful partner. I believe the bishop needs to rethink his comments a bit. Incidentaly, the HIV virus doesn't care whether you're gay or straight.
October 20 2010 at 2:38 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyUnfortunately, when one commits a sin, even when they think it is a private, won't hurt anyone else sin, it does have an effect on the entire body of Christ. All members of humanity. It is heart breaking when the faithful spouse is infected. I've worked with AIDS victims, it really is unspeakable. No HIV does not care, gay or straight. However, the Bishop speaks correctly. He actually illustrates your point. Of course there are innocent victims, faithful spouses, babies, transfusion patients, medical personnel.
October 20 2010 at 10:34 PM Report abuse Permalink +5 rate up rate down Replyi AGREE WITH HIS COMMENTS 100%
October 20 2010 at 12:09 PM Report abuse Permalink +2 rate up rate down ReplyThis guy is a perfect example of why Christians are considered hateful. I'm ashamed he considers his beliefs the same as mine. Jesus called again and again for us to love one another. It is true that God's justice will come to us all but I'm thinking his pet peave is hateful behavior. Even in the old testament God's prophets railed against those who cheat widows and orphans and ground the faces of the poor in the dirt. He despises our hateful behavior and if the Bishop would put down his prayer bood and read the Bible he would know it.
October 20 2010 at 11:38 AM Report abuse Permalink -3 rate up rate down ReplyRuth, I'm sure the Bishop knows Scripture better than you think he does! He reads it daily, both in saying Mass, and in saying his Office, which is all Scripture. He said nothing that was hateful. Our Lord always spoke of our need to follow Him, to keep the commandments. When He forgave, He always said, "go and sin no more." I'm sorry you are ashamed, however he said nothing that was un-Christian. Loving one another means loving enough to say something is a sin, not letting people do what they want.
October 20 2010 at 10:28 PM Report abuse Permalink +6 rate up rate down ReplyThe Priest is absolutely right. Not that God is punishing promiscus sex, but the laws of nature are at play here, and God's word says "Be not decieved, God is not mocked, for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap," when we plant corn, we expect to reap much more then we plant, the same with sin....we tend to reap much more then we sow, sad but a true fact of life.
October 20 2010 at 11:29 AM Report abuse Permalink +2 rate up rate down ReplyIf it were a punishment, wouldn't those pedaphilic Roman priests have come down with some horrific ailment much worse than'aids'. btw do those priests do each other or just little boys? Either way isn't that breaking their vow of chastity? and shouldn't that get them an immediate disqualification? and not a transfer.
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