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Christine O'Donnell on 1st Amendment: Where Is 'Separation of Church and State'?

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Tea Party favorite Christine O'Donnell, the Republican candidate for Senate in Delaware, questioned Tuesday whether the First Amendment to the Constitution requires a separation between organized religion and government.

"Where in the Constitution is the separation of church and state?" she said in a debate with Chris Coons, her Democratic opponent. When Coons told her the First Amendment prohibited government from establishing any religion, according to the Associated Press and WDEL radio, O'Donnell replied, "You're telling me that's in the First Amendment?" Click play below for video:


The exchange came at Delaware's Widener University Law School in a discussion of evolution versus creationism, with Coons arguing that the idea of God creating the world in seven days could be taught in sectarian and private schools but should not be a subject for public education. O'Donnell's apparent confusion on the First Amendment brought gasps from the audience, Widener political scientist Wesley Leckrone said.

The Bill of Rights states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

Related Story: Reactions to O'Donnell Remarks on Constitution's First Amendment

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AllisioRex

Christine O'Donnell was right. I would add that while the Amendment prohibits Congress from establishing a national religion and its free exercise (of religion) this prohibition doesn't extend to the States and the people of the different States. I would have liked if she had won the election. Without new faces, new people,who honor only the will of their own constituents nothing much will change here. The USA is just a Republic on paper. Basically, politicians tell people more or less:" I have an agenda, this is it, vote for me and if elected this is what I'll be doing". No, in a Republic it doesn't work like this. People who want to serve should say:" Hey, my name is such and such I would like to serve your needs as your representative in government (whatever office),I already know what you are looking for and look forward to know more from you and what you want me to do,which laws you want me to try to pass or repeal and other issues which concern you. Thanks". Right now, politics is a fraud against the people. Please, study the real meaning of the U.S. Constitution.

November 05 2010 at 12:33 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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woerkilt

Keeping religion out of state affairs is perhaps the very heart of the concept of a seperation. For some of the greatest harm in the name of religion has historically been conducted at the state level or lower. After all, the establishment clause has at least a partial background in the discrimination of the colonies themselves.

December 02 2010 at 1:52 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
ldubin906

The specific words 'Separation of Church and State" are not in the First Amendment. That is an interesting observation, I agree! But that is not what O'Donnell said in the debate. She said she was not aware of the CONCEPT being mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, which as her opponent says, it clearly is, in the first amendment. If it weren't, I could be thrown out of a public school for refusing to be brainwashed about creationism, I could be subjected to displays of Christianity on public fire stations, court houses, and other public places funded by my tax dollars, and I could be discriminated against by refusing to be a Christian. All of which is contrary to the freedom of religion.

October 27 2010 at 9:34 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Stacy

why the laughter when she asked where does the constituition mention separation of church and state? because it doesnt! its very clear to me that the first amendment was written to keep govt out of our religious affairs, not to keep religion out of state affairs!! Thank the founders for including that we should have "free exercise" of our religions....which is what she is doing. and because of freedom of speech, you all have the right to hate on her for it! :)

October 25 2010 at 10:44 PM Report abuse -1 rate up rate down Reply
drsoar

The Constitution of the United States describes the functions granted by the People to the federal part of the governing apparatus of the United States [Federal, State and Local agencies]. The U. S. Congress is the ONLY law-making body for federal law. The first amendment to the Constitution prohibits the congress from making any law “ . . . respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” The sole purpose of this section of the first amendment is to protect the individual right to practice a religion. The correct meaning of the phrase “The separation of Church and State” [appearing no-where in the Constitution] is that the state is not allowed to infringe on the individual in this respect! Thus, no part of the federal government (including judges of federal courts) nor any derivative agent such as federally-funded educational institutions, have any jurisdiction over the exercise of religion - - there is no authorization for any private or state entity to infringe, control, subvert, restrict or in any way inhibit the FREE* exercise of religion at any place or at any time! “FREE:” Uncoerced, chosen, unfettered, voluntary, unrestrained, unbounded, independent, autonomous, sovereign. drsoar@aol.com

October 24 2010 at 1:13 PM Report abuse +3 rate up rate down Reply
Lorie

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." - Then how is the government able to prohibit any type of prayer in public schools?

October 20 2010 at 1:52 PM Report abuse +6 rate up rate down Reply
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hburns1351

Sure let's have prayer for every religion represented in the school. Readings from the Bible, the Tanakh, the Koran, the Vedas, etc...I'm sure you wont mind. Right?

October 20 2010 at 4:15 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Rebecca

The law doesn't prohibit prayer in public schools. It simply prohibits schools and teachers from requiring prayer in the classroom. Many public schools now have clubs, organized by the student body, that promotes prayer before the school day begins. The schools are permitted, and even encouraged, to provide space for these prayer meetings.

October 26 2010 at 3:54 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Michael

evolution is a religion, evolution is a belief that God did not create the universe and trys to explain mankinds existance and that therefore makes it a religion, and teaching evolution as an absolute without stating the possibility of there being a God is forcing a religion upon school children, i am so happy i do not live in delaware. you liberals are REALLY off your rocker with your sadistaic views on life and the world, and how in the world did you ever get reproductive rights out of abortion ? no one says your couldnt screw, some people just think that a fetus is a living being, so at least be honest about what the debate is, im do not agree with the religous right but liberals are REALLY a mess ........

October 20 2010 at 2:48 AM Report abuse -1 rate up rate down Reply
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woerkilt

Some Americans view creationists as off their rocker, with their own sadistic views of life and the world, trying to force the possibility of God upon us. How can the sadism of evolution compare to the cruelty of casting Adam and Eve from Eden, when God planted the tree of knowledge, himself knowing that Adam and Eve would disobey Him and eat from it? If he did not intend to curse women with the pain of childbirth, and if he did not intend to curse all of humanity with mortality, why did he plant that tree, and why did he not pose physical barriers? That is a master stroke of intelligently designed sadism that makes biological evolution look clumsy.

December 02 2010 at 1:57 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
diagd1

O'Donnell is right. The words, "separation of church and state" don't appear in the constitution (I am sure this will be difficult for the smug law students who were in attendance to accept). The first amendment was created to be sure all were able to worship according to their own ways. Believe me, the government back then relied on religion to keep a vast and wild land under control. Things would work a whole lot better today if more people felt they were accountable to God. Now we have a society who wants to know what their "rights" are under the law, rather than what their obligations are to God and the world. I think we were a better people when we believed in God.

October 20 2010 at 12:08 AM Report abuse +6 rate up rate down Reply
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ldubin906

She said the concept of separation of church and state didn't appear, not the exact words. Listen to the debate or read the transcript. You can do whatever religion you want silently, in private, as Thomas Jefferson says, it is between the individual and God. If you impose it upon me in a public place, it is actually illegal.

October 27 2010 at 9:38 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
americangod2010

The first amendment is meant to assure that everyone have the freedom to choose the religion of their preference without any interference from government. It did not intend for our nation and government to be godless. The first amendment guarantee that the United States will not have an official State religion like the Church of England. All Americans have the right believe in God in the way that suit them without causing any harm to anyone.

October 19 2010 at 10:13 PM Report abuse +15 rate up rate down Reply
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hairhofla

What you fail to include....is that no OTHER American has the right to impose that religion on another American...This means ..when it comes to PUBLIC institutions like schools....we either exclude all religions observed or include all religions observed...and since Christianity isn't the only religion observed in society or even public schools....it would mean accommodating the Muslims..Buddhists..Hindus Taoists....even Wiccans and Native Americans as well as Christians.....It would be a wonder if ANY education gets achieved other than an awareness of religious diversity.

October 20 2010 at 9:02 AM Report abuse +2 rate up rate down Reply
mdaok

The phrase was quoted by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878, and then in a series of cases starting in 1947. The phrase itself does not appear in the U.S. Constitution, although the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

October 19 2010 at 9:19 PM Report abuse +8 rate up rate down Reply
ezek37

There seemscto be a lot of anti 1st amendment people on this message board. The first official act of congress was to print bibles. Does that should like men who believed in the separation of church and state. They wrote it they should know what it means.

October 19 2010 at 9:18 PM Report abuse +4 rate up rate down Reply
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hburns1351

yes, and Thomas Jefferson who drafted the Constitution explained in a letter to the Danbury Baptists that the 1st amendment was included to ensure the separation of church and state.

October 20 2010 at 4:18 PM Report abuse +1 rate up rate down Reply

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