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November 20 2010 at 6:08 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI'm off the issue here, but I am wondering about how the IRS says that if churches talk about politics in their untaxed churches, then they say that those churches are taxable. Now the Vatican has stated these political issues, and it owns Catholic Churches. And since this is political, will they now be taxed?
October 29 2010 at 9:52 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThe Catholic faith teaches that abortion is a moral evil. It has no teaching on voting issues. To say someone has a right to do an action is not to say that they should. The good Bishop would have us voting for people who advocate all kinds of sins except this one, which is a ridiculous stand to take. I accept his teaching on faith and morality whenever they conform with the historical teachings of the church, but on how we should vote, the man is clueless!
October 29 2010 at 9:15 AM Report abuse Permalink -1 rate up rate down ReplyIf any Catholic official were to tell me I can't vote for this one or that one - that is exactly who I WILL vote for. If they are against it, I am for it. These bishops need to get their own houses in order. The Catholic Church has absolutely no influence over me. I spent 16 years under their thumps at school - no more!
October 29 2010 at 9:13 AM Report abuse Permalink -1 rate up rate down ReplyVery anti-catholic sentiments. Your bitterness is showing.
October 29 2010 at 12:56 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI'm a Catholic. I drink to my conscience then the Pope or Bishop. This is the same old shame, blame and guilt game. The essence of the Catholic Church is Christ's death on the cross. He preached love and forgiveness, even among the sinners he sometines traveled with. What about the Church teaching on capital punishment' or pedaphilia' or other mortal sins? What about separation of Church and State. The Church teaches ex cathedra, infallible teaching, but what about the inquisition? Was that 'ex cathedra' and the Crusades where people were slaughtered being ordered to do so on the advice of the thtt Pope who said they would go to heaven. For heavan's sake get real. Sin is a conscienable concupisence (see Augustine and doctors of the Church) who have fought this stuff before. "Judge not lest you be not judged", Christ said. Or are we going to re-interpret that. The Church does a lousy job on hermaneutics (interpretation) and the Bishop's statement sounds like cafetaria Catholicism or expedient elective teaching.
October 29 2010 at 8:47 AM Report abuse Permalink +4 rate up rate down ReplyThe Catholic Church is not a Democracy. It is not governed by the Constitution. If you disagree with the Churches edicts you need to find another that coincides more with your belief values. To call yourself a devout Catholic and pick and choose what edicts you choose to follow is hypocritical. To say "Separation of Church and State" does not give you an exeption. I am pro-choice. I believe in equallity for gays. It was for these very reasons I left the church. I am also a conservative independent. You may want to share my opinion with Nancy Pelosi.
October 29 2010 at 7:38 AM Report abuse Permalink -1 rate up rate down ReplyReligions are made by people... not Gods and it is becoming clear that the current hierarchy of the very conservative Catholic church are Republican, right wing, conservatives that have a strong feeling that women should not have the rights of men to be priests or rights over their bodies as in pro-choice and lean toward criminalizing abortion but have only slightly pooh-poohed the right wing's having started two long (interminable) and deadly wars. It is clear that in the right wing (and Catholic church's) minds, abortions aren't acceptable but killing people in the middle east (is it because they are muslims?) is no reason to not vote for a candidate.
October 29 2010 at 7:02 AM Report abuse Permalink +2 rate up rate down ReplyNinety percent of my relatives who are catholic are also registered democrats going all the way back to Roosevelt. The church told us to vote for JFK cause he would be the first catholic president. The church also supports left wing causes like illegal immigration and amnesty. The church supports issues not political parties.
October 29 2010 at 1:01 PM Report abuse Permalink +2 rate up rate down ReplyI'm inclined to disagree with your last statement, David. I think that Catholics are swinging toward conservativism because of the moral issues that are being addressed in this election. Even though the Church is embroiled in it's own scandals, are we not taught to follow Church teaching? I think all Catholics know their obligations (but may not follow them). One thing that I would promote as Canon Law is the excommunication of all politicians who publically oppose Catholic Doctrine. Since a priest can be excommunicated for breaking the seal of confession, why not?
October 29 2010 at 3:17 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyBishop Burke is entitled to his views. However we have many pro life people who feel once an unwanted child is born they feel it is not their respsobsibility. It is our responsobility every one who professes to be a Christian. We should all be working on adoptions of unwanted children. Does Burke endorse the Republican philisophy of me first and I dont reall y care what happens to anybody once they are born. I am not an abortion advocate but lets say what we are all going to do to help the unwanted children. Burke needs to walk the walk not talk the talk. He is a Cathoic attayloa. We do not need extremests like him around. I am a former catholic turned protesant for many years.
October 29 2010 at 12:51 AM Report abuse Permalink +2 rate up rate down ReplyWould a true Christian even participate in voting for anyone? There is ample proof that Christians living in the fisrt Century, such as Paul and Peter, did not participate in voting or running for political office. They were neutral in world affairs and followed Jesus example to flee when the Jews wanted to make him King. Besides, there is little chance that very many Catholics care about what some Cardinal says. In the past, they have ignored even the Pope's demands that they not get abortions themselves, so why shoul;d they care about voting for someone who is pro life or pro choice.
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