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One of the reasons I really like MSNBC's "Morning Joe" is that it eschews the typical yelling and screaming that have become commonplace on cable TV. Of course, there is a place for heated discussion -- especially when the discussion is timely and based on real disagreements.

Such was the case this morning when Salon's Glenn Greenwald faced off against MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell on "Morning Joe." Greenwald had recently accused O'Donnell of "trying to blame 'the Left' and 'liberalism' for the Democrats' political woes."

O'Donnell, who noted that he was, himself, a "socialist," tweaked Greenwald by saying: "I'm not a liberal who's so afraid of the word that I had to change my name to 'progressive.' "

Ultimately, though, the larger debate here is over whether Democrats will view the 2010 midterm elections as evidence they misread their mandate and over-reached after 2008 -- or if they will view it as evidence they moderated too much after 2008.

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The stimulus has not been fully spent due to hold by the governors. Without it the unemployment would be over 10%. Like most of Obamas' successes he did not push hard enough or far enough to gain the full effect of his program. His compromising with people who have no intention of compromising was foolish at best. Please do not tell us about the Republicans' principled stand. There was no principle involved only destructive obstructionism was in place with no principle involved. Their only goal was no to anything proposed that was not to their full liking. Their principles resembled that of a spoiled child not getting their way. Obama should have treated them as that and ignored them. Harry Reid was the problem just as much as Obama and for the same reason. He should have had the courage and sense to abolish the filibuster and they could have passed the full measure of the programs instead of half gestures meant to gain bi-partisanship. This country is slowly going to turn into an oligarchy that has no sense of purpose other than to make the very wealthy more so.

November 10 2010 at 4:06 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

The defeated Republican Party was asked in 2008 if they would moderate their views and move to the middle and they chose to move right with obvious success in 2010. Where the Dems will go after their defeat is a great question. The outcome over the policy battles sure to come in the next two years will answer that question. For example, how much can Obama compromise his health care plan witout completely undermining it? Do the Republicans really want to dismantle the modest regulatory reforms imposed on Wall Street? How do you control the deficit without touching Social Security, Medicare/caid and the defense budget? Who will get the blame if nothing much happens over the next two years? This is a great time to be interested in politics.

November 10 2010 at 9:20 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

I respect the guy who claims that he is not a liberal and stated on the air he is a full blown socialist and he not change his label like liberals did by saying they are progressive . I like the fact he is not afraid to say what he is . If only president OBAMA had the guts that this guy has Americans would not have to try and to defend the obvious That the president is a socialist ! Lucky that he also stated that there are more of us than them!!!!!

November 09 2010 at 10:37 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply

I watched some of the back and forth, and Lawrence O'Donnell's remarks were on the mark. I personally think it's great when a talk show host can mix it up with a guest, particularly when the guest is making less than truthful remarks. I firmly believe the guests should be called out when the host knows full well the guests comments are less than truthful. Rachel Maddow does an outstanding job of exposing guests for what they truly are.

November 07 2010 at 11:03 PM Report abuse -1 rate up rate down Reply

Lawrence O'Donnell was anything but civil to Greenwald. He kept loudly talking over Glenn. Clearly, like so many in the media, he can dish out criticism but he can't take it. His snarky comment about not being afraid to call himself a liberal was uncalled for and a way to distract from the very appropriate charges being leveled against him. If he were such a liberal why does he constantly join in to the effort to pressure Democrats to compromise on their principles. They do not do the same to Republicans.

November 07 2010 at 8:04 AM Report abuse +2 rate up rate down Reply

I watch the show and enjoyed the show this morning. At least this O'Donnell doesn't make an idiot of himself. Conservatives think if it's not Limbaugh or ain't worth watching.

November 05 2010 at 6:01 PM Report abuse +2 rate up rate down Reply
Richard Morgan

Don't watch the show. Too much of "when I was in Congress" and as if no-one knew : "I'm a conservative". Joe shouts down anyone who doesn't agree with his extreme views. Also, you can't have it both ways. Either you are treated like a child or you are given a 2500 page piece of legisation to read as adult homework.

November 05 2010 at 1:08 PM Report abuse +1 rate up rate down Reply
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Bob Fitz

gschnorbus: No pun intended, but, right on! If Obama caves in after working so hard it'll be a shame. I can't understand how intelligent people can stomach the lies of the Repubs and lately, the TPs. If politics is played as a parody let's all laugh. But, slamming a 70 year old woman who has 'made' it is arrogant and shameful. Slamming the President with threats is certainly no example to set for all Americans in the this time of two wars. If the party of NO had some meaningful suggestions besides no tax I'd like to hear it. It's time for a true Independent Party.

November 05 2010 at 12:57 PM Report abuse -2 rate up rate down Reply

I am a moderate independent who supported and still support Barack Obama and I would say that he made three mistakes 1. he left too much to Congress in writing legislation and promoting legislation 2. he compromised too much and too quickly on his campaign promises with special interests and Republicans 3. he let the republicans set the dialogue and take the offensive, get away with lies, lots of lies and he settled for the defensive position As an American person, I guess I can speak for the American people as much as all the political analysts. And to me,the Dems lost because they did not get their supporters to vote--not just their base but their independent supporters as well and they left the election to those who only watch Fox News and believe the lies that are told there. Enough Mr. Nice Guy; we need Mr. Smart Guy; we need a President who will stand up for the middle class at every moment and debunk lies where they lie. We need someone who will put loyalty to the American people above loyalty to his staff and friends. We need a hero! I hope that hero will be Barack Obama

November 05 2010 at 11:10 AM Report abuse +5 rate up rate down Reply
5 replies to gschnorbus's comment

Fortunately very few people watch this show with the insuffferable, elitist snob Mika Brezensky. This fact is furth substaniate by the lack of comments on this site. I switch to this channel when there is a breaking story and I want to see how the other side is going to spin it. This show is just another low point for NBC/GE. No wonder they are having financial troubles.

November 05 2010 at 10:53 AM Report abuse -2 rate up rate down Reply

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