Notre Dame's Punt in the Probe of Lizzy Seeberg's Sad Death

What about the idea and law by the way that people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law and not on the internet or in a newspaper? Why would a school take action against someone who hadn't even been charged by the police? Did they (the police) wait too long? Obviously. Do they have a case? Obviously not. So what are you trying to do? Try a case against him in the court of public opinion where assumption and innuendo rule? Obviously.

This is terrible the way you are riding this. Lizzy was a sick girl and you know it. If there were some impropriety(and I believe there probably was but that's just my feeling and is no proof of any kind) it was by her own statement of the most easily misinterpreted kind by both parties and why was she in his room to start with??? Come on and give it a rest. Obviously it wasn't handled properly but the idea that this incident was responsible for her suicide is ludicrous. She was an unbalanced girl and probably belonged at home under a doctors care and not in school at all but her parents(who now cry foul) let her go knowing her mental state. Kinda like the guy who buys his son a sports car and wonders why he is dead in an automobile accident. There is plenty of blame to go around but trying to hang a guy just so you can cheer for Notre Dame again......

Notre Dame has a history of criminal football players getting away, well, some have gotten away, some have been disciplined. But it is now time for the "Death Penalty" to be applied to ND football. But I doubt that will ever happen, way too much money involved. Any woman who has attended or is attending ND must be deeply ashamed of the way ND handled this. Liz was a real girl, and ND football in nothing more than a game. A game that makes ND very rich . . . but not rich in soul.

Just think... If Notre Dame would have took Lizzy's complaint seriously and truly listened to her when she filed the complaint then not only would she still be alive (which I truly believe she would) but also when this very same individual (the football player that got away with telling Lizzy to pee in the sink and no telling what else he demanded of her to do - must have been worse then what she really stated considering that she took her life as a result) When he gets away with this sexual assault Notre Dame will just pave the way for another innocent victim to be assaulted again and when that happens (unfortunately) because these type of individuals always - always repeat what they get away with once... all over again, then perhaps they will realize how they placed that individuals life at risk by not removing this football player from the school in general. To think that this family must stand by and accept the loss of their daughter after some scum dirt bag sexually assaulted their child and he walks off free and clear as if he's some kind of justified star just sickens me. Any parent who agrees with the choice better realize that this had to be very serious for a young woman to have taken her life and that this girl wasn't looking for attention by just filing some little complaint against someone for kicks and grins - this is exactly why women are afraid to speak up about attacks because of low life facilites that go ahead and allow these "players" to keep on "playin"... that is until he strikes again and the next time I would definitely bet that Notre Dame will be looking at a lawsuit because they've now had prior warning about this individual and they chose to ignore Lizzy. Very sad. Especially sad for Lizzy, such a beautiful girl. As for her family... my heart aches for them, they should have never been treated with such disrespect upon the death of their daughter. How shameful that both the police dept and the school officials didn't act appropriately in order to avoid such a disastrous situation. Sexual assault complaints should NEVER be taken lightly ... EVER.

My prayers go out to lizzy and her family :(

I know that I would investigate, in a nano second, said player(s) regardless of ND's football programs reputation. That is secondary to life itself. What was more important is/was that these guy(s) be brought to justice regardless of a silly football game. Either make the case (based on evidence) or not... give the proof that would help exonerate the accused player. Being proactive would have been much better for the schools reputation for a number of obvious reasons. (religion, integrity, financial, to name a few...)Maybe the coach should be sidelined...How he ever got hired with that cavalier (and archaic) attitude is is beyond me. He's BAD for the program! Man up ND !!!

Stop blaming a young man until the facts come out. Already at that tender age she was on anti depressints. Maybe there was something deeper taking hold of her.My prayers go out to her family and may they find peace.

As is usually the case, this is not so much a matter of what happened, but rather who it happened to. If this had been the daughter of a high-ranking Notre Dame executive, I can only believe we'd be reading a different story now.

If law enforcement has D.N.A. evidence, why has someone not been arrested ? GOD BLESS this young lady and her family.

This situation is sadly reminiscent of an event involving one of my daughters while she was attending a Jesuit university on the West Coast. She turned in another student who was dealing drugs out of his dorm room, just down the hall. The school placed the student on suspension, but never brought in police and allowed him to stay on campus. When the student began to harass my daughter she notified the school. They did NOTHING. When I personally complained to the Head Jesuit/President: he said there was nothing he could do. My daughter ended up having to leave the University. I fought back in the following ways: I immediately suspended all monetary donations to the school & I've counseled at least 10 high school students to go to a different university. Thankfully my daughter didn't suffer the same type of trauma as this poor girl. She ended up graduating 3 years later from a State University, with honors, and with two degrees.