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Not long after the semester began, on the evening of Aug. 31, Seeberg told her friends at St. Mary's College, the all-women's school across the road from Notre Dame, that she had been assaulted but not raped in an attack that was interrupted by a knock on a dorm-room door. That same night, she sat down and hand-wrote an account of all that had happened, and the next day made a full report to the Notre Dame cops. She also sought treatment at a hospital, where she submitted to DNA testing and accepted an offer of counseling.What about the idea and law by the way that people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law and not on the internet or in a newspaper? Why would a school take action against someone who hadn't even been charged by the police? Did they (the police) wait too long? Obviously. Do they have a case? Obviously not. So what are you trying to do? Try a case against him in the court of public opinion where assumption and innuendo rule? Obviously.
December 28 2010 at 5:34 PM Report abuse Permalink -1 rate up rate down ReplyThis is terrible the way you are riding this. Lizzy was a sick girl and you know it. If there were some impropriety(and I believe there probably was but that's just my feeling and is no proof of any kind) it was by her own statement of the most easily misinterpreted kind by both parties and why was she in his room to start with??? Come on and give it a rest. Obviously it wasn't handled properly but the idea that this incident was responsible for her suicide is ludicrous. She was an unbalanced girl and probably belonged at home under a doctors care and not in school at all but her parents(who now cry foul) let her go knowing her mental state. Kinda like the guy who buys his son a sports car and wonders why he is dead in an automobile accident. There is plenty of blame to go around but trying to hang a guy just so you can cheer for Notre Dame again......
December 28 2010 at 5:24 PM Report abuse Permalink -2 rate up rate down ReplyHow disgustingly ignorant. It is NEVER the victim's fault. All reports openly acknowledge her mental illness...what does that have to do with the case? What is infuriating here is the amount of back-tracking, discrepancy, and nonchalance put forth by Notre Dame administration. Were the accused anything but a star football player, I'd be willing to bet everything that this would have been handled differently. And...what? People with anxiety and depression belong in a "home?" Have you any idea the percentage of people in the world suffering from these afflictions? It's a large one.
December 28 2010 at 8:14 PM Report abuse Permalink +2 rate up rate down ReplyNotre Dame has a history of criminal football players getting away, well, some have gotten away, some have been disciplined. But it is now time for the "Death Penalty" to be applied to ND football. But I doubt that will ever happen, way too much money involved. Any woman who has attended or is attending ND must be deeply ashamed of the way ND handled this. Liz was a real girl, and ND football in nothing more than a game. A game that makes ND very rich . . . but not rich in soul.
December 26 2010 at 9:22 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyMy prayers go out to lizzy and her family :(
December 17 2010 at 4:42 PM Report abuse Permalink +2 rate up rate down ReplyI know that I would investigate, in a nano second, said player(s) regardless of ND's football programs reputation. That is secondary to life itself. What was more important is/was that these guy(s) be brought to justice regardless of a silly football game. Either make the case (based on evidence) or not... give the proof that would help exonerate the accused player. Being proactive would have been much better for the schools reputation for a number of obvious reasons. (religion, integrity, financial, to name a few...)Maybe the coach should be sidelined...How he ever got hired with that cavalier (and archaic) attitude is is beyond me. He's BAD for the program! Man up ND !!!
December 07 2010 at 8:28 AM Report abuse Permalink +1 rate up rate down ReplyStop blaming a young man until the facts come out. Already at that tender age she was on anti depressints. Maybe there was something deeper taking hold of her.My prayers go out to her family and may they find peace.
December 04 2010 at 6:06 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyAs is usually the case, this is not so much a matter of what happened, but rather who it happened to. If this had been the daughter of a high-ranking Notre Dame executive, I can only believe we'd be reading a different story now.
December 03 2010 at 2:53 PM Report abuse Permalink +7 rate up rate down ReplyIf law enforcement has D.N.A. evidence, why has someone not been arrested ? GOD BLESS this young lady and her family.
December 02 2010 at 7:20 PM Report abuse Permalink +4 rate up rate down ReplyThis situation is sadly reminiscent of an event involving one of my daughters while she was attending a Jesuit university on the West Coast. She turned in another student who was dealing drugs out of his dorm room, just down the hall. The school placed the student on suspension, but never brought in police and allowed him to stay on campus. When the student began to harass my daughter she notified the school. They did NOTHING. When I personally complained to the Head Jesuit/President: he said there was nothing he could do. My daughter ended up having to leave the University. I fought back in the following ways: I immediately suspended all monetary donations to the school & I've counseled at least 10 high school students to go to a different university. Thankfully my daughter didn't suffer the same type of trauma as this poor girl. She ended up graduating 3 years later from a State University, with honors, and with two degrees.
December 02 2010 at 3:18 PM Report abuse Permalink +4 rate up rate down ReplyJust wondering...why didn't you take evidence directly to the police after the fact? That would have been helpful establishing a tangible response to the schools lack there of. This in addition to your own thoughtful response of course. Glad your daughter is prospering. :) She obviously has strong parents to back her up. Bravo! Now do one last favor for her...teach her to stand up to bullies!
December 07 2010 at 8:33 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIt's been akin to a 'tradition' that crimes like rape or sexual assault involving star college athletes are swept under the radar and the proverbial rug since colleges were created. Most College Boards want these 'things' kept quiet very many reasons; since the truth has never been a popular choice. The first reason has always been about the "reputation" of the school. Much more important than an individuals well-being of course. The second reason and probably most important in the school's eyes is that NOTHING gets in the way of College Football; EVER. Too bad it's become such a negative business. Truly a shame. Elizabeth appeared to be a remarkable young woman. My condolences to her family.
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